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Acend leaves Valorant

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#2
JawXG
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o7

Being a 100T supporter I have some fantastic and cruel memories with this team.
Forever invaluable to the Val esports scene.
GG's

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catNmouse
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The infamous avoid cNed strat

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Mortadelo
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dang, more orgs every year

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Nef0r0
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soon only those in franchising will remain, and just a pair of them in tier 2

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Mortadelo
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Eh, I do know quite a few orgs are joining next year, but idk, it just doesn't feel stable

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Nef0r0
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which ones are joining?

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Mortadelo
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Polaris is gonna be full of orgs next year apparently

Do not quote me but the rumor is some orgs like Heroic, Nip coming back or Quadrant. Nothing for sure tho

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Nef0r0
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I mean it's still tier 2, they will just stick around for a few years and leave. cuz the chance of them getting thru is low af.

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Targu1n
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joining east?
cause from what I can tell (using badly translated text) theyre going full meltdown atm

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Mortadelo
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Nah I was talking about Polaris, East feels kinda fucked

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Nef0r0
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crazy how only 7/16 teams from champs 2021 are around (in franchising)

#9
SuperRoss
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rito fucking sucks

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Nef0r0
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I mean their system is one of the more solid ones, most other game developers are just restarted when it comes to it and the only other successfull esports title in valve just has the great policy of outsourcing organizing events to other TOs (reason why cs has 30+ events next year)

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I agree but I will forever say this... franchising came too soon and started too small. if they waited another year and/or started franchising with 15 teams instead of 10 per league... we'd probably see much fewer orgs leave the scene. Acend would probably still be around.

Unfortunate, but what's done is done

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Nef0r0
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I mean what's the other option NOW? closing the door on franchising in 2027? What if the orgs which leave then will not be replaced?

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LycheeBlade
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There is no other option really -- that's why I'm saying what's done is done. Right now the T2 system isn't stable enough for a lot of orgs to manage financially but hopefully in the coming years it'll stabilize. That Acend announcement does leave the door open for them to return 2026 assuming things get better

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SuperRoss
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i like that they organize their main events, but the format is just too stale, t2 teams only have a slim chance of going up

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Nef0r0
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that's why I personally am a fan of an open circuit with plenty of events. The new valve system for 2025 is just ''git gud''. you are a solid top 8 team in the world? you have the right to choose the events you attend. you are a top 9 or top 20 team in the world? you will get the invites tier 1 teams deny. you are top 30 or lower? git gud and grind them qualifiers

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Botroretro
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gambler org left

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Nef0r0
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they need the collab with drillas for the shanghai rmr 🔥🔥🔥🔥

#7
Laundry
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o7
I wasn't watching them at there peak, but I always found myself rooting for them to comeback again. Goodbye Acend

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Targu1n
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Imma post my thing from https://www.vlr.gg/404737/acend-exits-val here too

Yea somethings brewing in East atm
Orgs are leaving (rather than joining), the TO is struggling, TO is losing talent and even split 3 is uncertain.

If someone whos actually familiar with East can share whats happening I'd much appreciate it since its hard to properly understand whats going on via bad google translate walls of text.

Anyways sucks to lose Acend, they were a staple of valorant. GL to em in other games.
And may east somehow survive whatever is going on with them this year

#22
sideshowsbaldhead
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rip blew all their money on tmv’s content creator salary

#24
KyLZi
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o7 TMV

#25
ValAnalist
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Justice for Brazil. Keyd better

#26
badvibrations
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Riot system is doomed

#27
edgno1fan2
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good thing is they specified the 2025 circuit - if the tier 2/ascension ecosystem improves they may come back?

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Nef0r0
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how do you even improve it lol?

#35
edgno1fan2
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not much we can do unfortunately, just if the esports scene becomes bigger. the traditional idea is that esports can replicate the success of the traditional sports scene, and be monetised in the same way.

personally, i'm not super convinced - i think monetising esports has some unique challenges, (mainly in terms of sport psychology), but maybe someone smarter than I can solve that problem (and probably make a shit load of money doing so)

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Nef0r0
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I mean the easiest pathway to monetize cs is whatever valve are doing but with extra steps.
when they release the operation it can just crowdfund the major prize pool (like what TI was).
stickers and other customizations go to orgs who attend the major (everyone gets the same cut of the pie)
Therefore orgs which are at the major get like millions, yet you only get to the major by being good all year long so you need to grind the game more, attend more events and win more prize money

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edgno1fan2
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yeah, the problem is that this results in an overcentralisation of major teams within the esports scene. especially since riot is trying to push a "anyone can make it" type mindset through premier, there needs to be a way to disseminate the monetisation policies to tier 2 and below. unfortunately, i don't think the current monetisation sources (us, the viewers) is large enough to sustain a successful t2 scene, providing a reasonable risk-reward balance, while also keeping major organisations interested and profitable.

traditional sports have the benefit of standout players being idolised, and therefore are very easy to monetise - kids want to be the next messi, the next michael jordan, and their parents will buy them a jersey for their birthday. i believe esports lacks that psychological "inspiration" factor.

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Nef0r0
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anyone can make it is open circuit. not any team can win the premier league in england. but almost every club in england can win the FA Cup

#28
EseemedRes1180
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This is sad man always been a big acend fan. But this year they didn't do well 😭

#30
derp64
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What does this mean for Acend content creators like TMV and Elevated?

#38
kapteN
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How does this even matter? Content creators will remain content creators, never even saw the point of them signing to a team

#43
derp64
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Content creators earn salary from the orgs they sign with, for example TMV does get bonuses when he makes the Cosmic Divide episodes with Elevated. I've seen content creators of a game get laid off when the orgs pull out from said game.

#31
cloudberry
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🫡

What does this mean for chiwa my goat

#33
_Nonsense
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Nothing of value was lost

#34
kapteN
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Just one of the first of many to come.

Riot's T2 scene is absolutely unsustainable, and as a breeding ground and proving ground for VCT, this bodes extremely bad news for the future of competition in Valorant.

Prepare to see an outflux of players towards CS2 and other games, where the T2-T3 and beyond scene is much less choked out by the developer.

#36
Jivko
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hope Leo Faria is proud of what he's doing

#41
kanyefan4238173
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east is so cooked

#42
fawning
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im not baiting when I say that every win pre franchising didn't matter at all, look at all the orgs and players from back then to now

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