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Counter point: Awesome fucking Jawgemo clip
EASILY.
good luck dealing with the sen fans tho, you disrespected their father figure
imagine being fan of 30s balding 5'5 midget. my GOAT Tenz 6"5 is a super model, humble king.
if i start body shaming i'll get banned, but tenz aint that brotha LMFAAAO
If i had the choice to kiss Tenz or FNS, I would kiss Tenz. Not really related to the argument I just want to get that out there. Have a blessed day 🙏.
idk about better, but they are both really good tbh arguments can be made for either
lmao redbull the only thing ur flair has won, is the true mickey mouse tournament
I mean redbull was 10x more competitive than whatever reykjavik 2021 was. Imo that tournament shouldn't even be labeled as a Masters
but reykjavik had so much more importance, also we won madrid which was 100x more competitive than whatever any of the redbulls were
doesn't matter, a better omen is still better. s0m is a omen main, TenZ is not, he is a flex player.
except s0m is just a shittier tenz when you take in until usage and mechanics 😭😭
the only thing s0m has over tenz is not tunnel visioning as much but asides from that he’s worse in every aspect
2 trophies vs 0, plus historically tenz has beaten s0m more its 2-1, and on Omen well TenZ's first try on Omen he won a tourney s0m has been on Omen since 2 years and hasnt won shit
key word ''Historically''
in fact s0m is quite litteraly better in any smokes than tenZ
s0ms knowledge is and util usage/ protocolls are way better than tenZ because he didnt play smokes professionally back then.
not saying that tenZ is bad but as a smokes player hes worse than s0m
even jitboyS mastery wise hes better than tenZ.
hope i helped u with my explaination :D
yeah well has his better util usage won anything, no and also i think you are forgetting cove incident, where his util usage was as good as an iron player, and also KDA wise TenZ has had a higher KDA then s0m did when he was on Omen last year, and dont you dare compare some APAC lowlife smoke player like jitBoyS to TenZ, that mf has been average at best for TLN, TenZ's omen was the reason they qualed to Madrid
taking cove seriously is probably the most retarded thing i’ve seen on this site
thats just wrong since tenz on smokes actually won something, s0m has won nothing significant on his role lol stop comparing its not even close
multiple masters winner vs billibilli streamer
winning trophies definitely correlates to skill since it means you beat everyone else to win that trophy
geng won shang hai, do they have skill? probably 😂
this is so superficial. tenz legit has had one of the craziest APR stat of all time this year. even without looking at stats, his flashes are always on point just by a look test. people here love to reduce him to just his aim. and yes s0m is better on every other smoke agent. thats cause tenz has never played anything other than Omen.
Comparing individual players, bring team achievements. One brain cell working hard. Respect.
TenZ has more pop-off factor than s0m (Iceland with first SEN win still highest ever ACS ever in an event), 2 trophies, and more Aura too. Also, s0m lost to PRX ciggarets in clutch. remember that. Tenz would never lose to a sub player (a streamer at that) in a clutch situation. My goat would never.
uhm well actually
If we go by stats in their recent match, my glorious king SEN TenZ was 10-5 against s0m
I disagree. I think TenZ is better on Omen but s0m is the better controller player. TenZ on omen has been game changing for sentinels. His util usage has been near perfect and he also frags always on the character
Better smokes player yes, the horde didn't like that comment apparently, sure tenz switched to the most duelist like controller (pre clove) and was able to put up numbers. That's to be expected.
Everyone talking about how Tenz has trophies forgets that it's a team game. SEN wasn't shit post Reykjavik up until Madrid. NRG as an org historically also hasn't been shit so the statement isn't fair to make about trophies as that doesn't reflect the agent choices
It's crazy how people call valorant a team game when tenz wins and call him shit when SEN lost after Reykjavik. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Comparing Tenz and sOm on omen when sOm calls Tenz his goat.
I said SEN as a team overall was shit post reykjavik 2021, Good enough to get to Berlin and Champs, but didn't do much meaningful there, 2022 missed everything, 2023 missed everything and went out first at Lock/in (to FNC which is understandable, so thats not rlly fair to judge too hard)
All I said was s0m is a better smokes player, Tenz is better mechanically so he can frag out better, and has done consistently for years, even on bad SEN teams, its the same case with s0m on NRG through various roles. Don't think its very hypocritical to say that its a team game?
Mate, Tenz has a better rating than sOm on Omen. You can attribute it to getting more kills, and then I would give you examples of Tenz paranoia and shrouded step making unbelievable plays.
So I don't think we can agree here.
Example: SEN Split is a masterclass of retakes and it is because of many factors, one of them being Tenz utility usage apart from his fragging. You remember that 2v4 against NRG where if Tenz has not smoked the bomb sacrificing his life johnqt would have been finished by demon1.
I mean I can go on and on about Tenz making plays using his utils. So, I won't agree to this conclusion of yours.
S0m is a better smokes player OVERALL was my point, Not just Omen, until TenZ is playing Brim, Viper, Harbor, Clove, and Astra. Its gonna stay that way, TenZ is a better player mechanically who can play Omen.
Its like saying Leaf is the best KJ in the world because he's an ex duelist who puts up insane numbers and has good value from playing KJ because thats his role on the team now.
I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN SEN DIDNT QUALIFY FOR ANY MASTERS OR CHAMPIONS FOR STRAIGHT TWO YEARS
stupid ass sen fans downvoting any comment saying s0m is better
follow the game dumbasses
tenz aim better but s0m omen clears easily
trophies argument is retarded because more trophies plainly doesn't matter for how much better a person is at an agent
As this is about individual achievements, Tenz has a spot named after him on the map SUNSET. All of the NRG and americas knows that.
Even Riot placed Omen boot marks on the spot.
What are the individual achievements of sOm on omen??
Dude did you read the comments above??
You don't want to compare on the basis of the trophies (as they are team achievement) and its not about individual comparison then what is it about??
Are you not braindead?
Smokes, TP and Paranoia
Example - 2v5 vs NRG with Johnqt.
There are many examples where Tenz has clutched using his TP and repositions like 3k on top market box, TP play over A ramp on split, 2k vs PRX to close Ascent for madrid finals, TP into viper smoke on C site lotus, TP over Mount box on lotus multi kills and many more.
I have never seen an omen player play so aggressive and that's what makes his Omen better.
s0m has done much more, also how do u even remember all of this ☠️ top tier glazer
Done much more??? where?
Ok I leave it at that. I am not a sOm hater, but let's not compare.
And given the form and play making I think Tenz is better.
I remember it because SEN is my favorite team and plays made by zekken and tenz are worth remembering.
Don't tell me you don't remember that tenz vs marved battle on A site in split.
both are good, no need to compare tho since they have different kind of plays. they do indeed also have bad days so.. all good
why is this comparison even being made, s0m is a full time controller player. tenz is a flex player who is taking advantage of a heavy omen meta
both play the character differently so there is no point in comparing, s0m is my personal goat tho
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