- NAVI Shao
- FNC Chronicle
- LOUD aspas
- FNC Derke
- TL nAts
- LOUD Less
- FNC Alfajer
- FNC Leo
- TL Sayf
- DRX MaKo
- NAVI Suygetsu
- NAVI Zyppan
- TL Jamppi
- PRX Something
- NAVI cNed
- NRG crashies
- PRX Jinggg
- DRX BuZz
- LEV kiNgg
- SEN zekken
Marved top 30 for sure, he should win LCQ
Victor top 25 for sure
Demon1 - he won't play in Tokyo so he can't prove himself
leaf - insane player but i want to see him in Champions
s0m - just one tournament and that is Tokyo, he will prove himself i hope
What T1 tournament has Something participated in that hes proved himself to be a top 20 played but S0m and Demon1 haven't? Just admit your biased and only watch EMEA
Marved top 10
Victor top 10
Demon1 top 20 for bringing eg to lan
Leaf and s0m need to prove themselves on lan but play like top 20 rn
wym he got thrust into a team and is now igling by default. Better than kingg fs.
oh hes doing bad when he joined a team with no system and was forced to igl, he is horrible. The only reason i didnt debate cned being on this list is bcuz he was good, but he has not been playing better than a t1 xeta, or demon1. But sure marved is bad because of his current stats.
youre gonna say that abt marved but not cned???? def no bias here
1.08 R
226.1 ACS
1.11 K/D
and he is fckn play Yoru and he will play in Tokyo and even maybe Champs
S0m:
1.13 R
204.7 ACS
1.13 K/D
Has ONLY played controller. Why is it that EMEA constantly shows they have no idea what they're talking about?
every pro would have good stats if they were being setup by there entire team lil bro.
Demon1 stats: 1.11 234.0 1.22
Demon1 is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than cned if we lookin at just 3 different stats
how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
Individually NAVI have the best players itw imo. Just obviously not working out rn
Maybe... I just think Shao, Zyppan and Suygetsu is a trio no other team has... They're all fucking insane mechanically with good gamesense. cNed has been good too but not as good as he can be. Ange1 been inting the whole season lol
leo chronicle alfajer are way better as a trio than suygetsu shao zyppan. stop glazing navi so hard.
Like i said maybe... It's close tho. You said way better and i should of stopped reading
as you can see in my list 4 FNC players are better than all other NAVI players except Shao
Less, Aspas and Cauanzin are a much better trio in every single in game situation a player can be in.
yeah not working out maybe because they arent the best cuz to be the best you have to beat everyone?
navi have just been trolling every game this season with map vetos and comps. literally go look at the comps they r running and u would think they r crazier then prx
You have a SEN flair, you should know very well how having top players in a league doesnt win you the league 😂😂
Chronicle and derke choked in the finals against TL
Shao didn't even get there
The right list should be started by TL, LOUD, and PRX players.
Its nice to see all the other regions finally excited, after seeing some of our teams lose in the league. Can't really beat them in international stage this year, so this should be all you guys get. Have fun!
Jamppi overrated i’d put Zekken, kiNgg, Crashies, Jingg and so many more over him still a great player tho
the only team that won 3-0 in their finals only have 2 players in a top 20 list and navi who lost 2-0 to FUT have 4 xd
Anyone can say your team is the better team
Although NAVI's players are better
There are no IGLs on the list otherwise Saadhak and FNS would of made it. I just think it's individually the top 20 best. In that case Saadhak and Cauanzin don't make it
talented and definitely he has potential
he could be in the top 20 after Tokyo
you can say that navi is the team with the best aim or something like that (i still would dissagree tbh, but would be a valid take)
but just aiming dont make you the best player
so nAts 5th on my list
he is not a aim god but he is here
Zyppan is insane flex, Suygetsu is best aimer maybe and cNed? just he needs to play Jett
Shao is Shao the Goat
sorry but no matter which player swap places with in the top 10 it's okay
but it's definitely not "criminal"
I really want to see him at the top 5 too, because he's just really solid as a player. But I won't lie he didn't perform as well as I had hoped against prx yesterday. If drx wants to win at tokyo he needs tk show up every game.
https://www.vlr.gg/189058/cloud9-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/189051/nrg-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-ur1/?game=123163&tab=overview
Victor is good but not consistent, he's not even top 3 in his team.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
victor can play every role in the game and is still high in statistics too lmfao. & s0m highest rated controller in americas (not counting less), yet neither are on the list.
this entire list is clearly just one sided towards a single region.
11 EMEA
5 Americas - we have to wait for Tokyo for s0m
4 Pacific
as it's supposed to be
s0m top controller in the entire league (1.13 R) but we have to wait for tokyo, sure bro sure!
Very accurate list, but remove the two NA players you included for someone else
Honorable mentions shoud be:
PRX Davai
NRG Victor
EG Demon1
T1 Sayaplayer
FUT qw1
NRG s0m
d4v41 consistently gets ignored in like... all of these discussions
#2 in pacific league + flexed init, senti, controller
dude is like the crashies of pacific except he flies under everyone's radar even more than crashies does because pacific is less relevant than americas
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Fena değil güzel liste suygetsu biraz low bide ben leo yu 1 e shao yu 2 ye makoyu da 3 e koyardım
Sova alim bait atim günde 40 saat shock dart çalışayım insanlar beni top 3 alsın 😀
people started to overrating him again just because of fluke win against fnatic
ngl he is the best rat but i hate that play style. But it surely gives very good value to the team
ngl he is the best rat but i hate that play style. But it surely gives very good value to the team
he is not even the best player in his team. there are more sentinel players better than nats
there are more sentinel players better than nats
they are just aimer, nAts is the true goat Sentinel
nAts clears everyone, proof: every sentinel player is a tier 3 sub to his streams judging by the setups everyone uses, all stolen from nAts
Not NA fan but u should include NA players bruh
So many other players better than Zekken and u didnt include them
LMAO, S TIER PLAYERS BUT NO CAUANZIN KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
11 EMEA
5 Americas (2 BR, 2 NA, 1 LATAM)
4 Pacific
Navi player at #1
I wonder if this list is biased in any way...
Shao being #1 is crazy, and jamppi overatted af
-shao
-jamppi
-alfajer
-jinggg
-cned
-buzz
and this list might be good
Not having alfajer even top 20 is crazy he is literally 1 of the 2 best sentinels in the world right now and despite the rest of his team having an off day he almost single handedly won them ten grand final making it close he practically was taking on team liquid himself at some points and 1 of the main reasons ascent was 14-12 and fracture was 13-11 2 close maps was because of alfajer mostly not to mention he almost single handedly won fnatic lotus the highest rated player in emea and the highest k/d in emea and 1 of the highest across all leagues if not the highest he is definitely not just top 20 but top 10 when his team was having an off day he stepped up and made the series very close almost single handedly he is on the same level as chronicle, derke and Leo the others are certainly debatable though
Ain’t no way bro forgot about Chadhak, the only true Chamber player
Ig shao on a good day can keep up but you can sense the delusional EMEA fan energy from your ranking
can keep up
? 💀
you can say Crashies is better than Suy, Zyppan or cNed but Shao is above him
In their current form I would rank them equally
On a good day shao is better on a bad day he is worse
Also depends on how the team are setting them up and NAVI's teamplay is breaking down rn