- NAVI Shao
- FNC Chronicle
- LOUD aspas
- FNC Derke
- TL nAts
- LOUD Less
- FNC Alfajer
- FNC Leo
- TL Sayf
- DRX MaKo
- NAVI Suygetsu
- NAVI Zyppan
- TL Jamppi
- PRX Something
- NAVI cNed
- NRG crashies
- PRX Jinggg
- DRX BuZz
- LEV kiNgg
- SEN zekken
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tatubolinha [#4]how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
Individually NAVI have the best players itw imo. Just obviously not working out rn
tatubolinha [#4]how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
I think we should ask them
4/5 for NAVI fine for top 20 list
tatubolinha [#4]how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
best players ≠ best team
love_trial [#7]best controller itw at 10th has to be some form of racism
I guess you don't know about the players above?
i didn't care roles dude
Yessirskiiii [#5]Individually NAVI have the best players itw imo. Just obviously not working out rn
for me the second, FNC better
south_america_best_region [#13]for me the second, FNC better
Maybe... I just think Shao, Zyppan and Suygetsu is a trio no other team has... They're all fucking insane mechanically with good gamesense. cNed has been good too but not as good as he can be. Ange1 been inting the whole season lol
tatubolinha [#4]how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
navi have just been trolling every game this season with map vetos and comps. literally go look at the comps they r running and u would think they r crazier then prx
prensadode50 [#21]the only team that won 3-0 in their finals only have 2 players in a top 20 list and navi who lost 2-0 to FUT have 4 xd
Anyone can say your team is the better team
Although NAVI's players are better
Yessirskiiii [#17]Maybe... I just think Shao, Zyppan and Suygetsu is a trio no other team has... They're all fucking insane mechanically with good gamesense. cNed has been good too but not as good as he can be. Ange1 been inting the whole season lol
leo chronicle alfajer are way better as a trio than suygetsu shao zyppan. stop glazing navi so hard.
unknown_trash [#24]leo chronicle alfajer are way better as a trio than suygetsu shao zyppan. stop glazing navi so hard.
Like i said maybe... It's close tho. You said way better and i should of stopped reading
unknown_trash [#24]leo chronicle alfajer are way better as a trio than suygetsu shao zyppan. stop glazing navi so hard.
as you can see in my list 4 FNC players are better than all other NAVI players except Shao
Gutssz [#23]Anyone can say your team is the better team
Although NAVI's players are better
cauanzin and saadhak not being in that list is just delusional
Lqwnmower [#27]mako not in top 5 is criminal
sorry but no matter which player swap places with in the top 10 it's okay
but it's definitely not "criminal"
Yessirskiiii [#17]Maybe... I just think Shao, Zyppan and Suygetsu is a trio no other team has... They're all fucking insane mechanically with good gamesense. cNed has been good too but not as good as he can be. Ange1 been inting the whole season lol
How about Something Forsaken and Jingg
prensadode50 [#30]cauanzin and saadhak not being in that list is just delusional
There are no IGLs on the list otherwise Saadhak and FNS would of made it. I just think it's individually the top 20 best. In that case Saadhak and Cauanzin don't make it
tatubolinha [#4]how can navi have 4 out of 5 players in "S" and cant win EMEA?
fraud team and list
You have a SEN flair, you should know very well how having top players in a league doesnt win you the league 😂😂
Zorontom [#40]Honorable mentions shoud be:
PRX Davai
NRG Victor
EG Demon1
T1 Sayaplayer
FUT qw1
NRG s0m
++
GIA Cloud
KOI Sheydos
GIA nukkye
FUT Atakaptan
PRX f0rsaken
KOI trexx
cau, tuyz, leaf and ardiis too
Jawa [#15]imagine having 4 S-tier players and still getting 2-0'd by FUT and KOI luuul
Its nice to see all the other regions finally excited, after seeing some of our teams lose in the league. Can't really beat them in international stage this year, so this should be all you guys get. Have fun!
Gutssz [#23]Anyone can say your team is the better team
Although NAVI's players are better
you can say that navi is the team with the best aim or something like that (i still would dissagree tbh, but would be a valid take)
but just aiming dont make you the best player
klebo [#43]you can say that navi is the team with the best aim or something like that (i still would dissagree tbh, but would be a valid take)
but just aiming dont make you the best player
so nAts 5th on my list
he is not a aim god but he is here
Zyppan is insane flex, Suygetsu is best aimer maybe and cNed? just he needs to play Jett
Shao is Shao the Goat
Gutssz [#47]If I make F tier players list then I will include him, thanks <3
that's a perfect place for Fit1nho to be in
aylez [#29]no victor again
https://www.vlr.gg/189058/cloud9-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/189051/nrg-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-ur1/?game=123163&tab=overview
Victor is good but not consistent, he's not even top 3 in his team.
poweredjay [#54]d4v41 consistently gets ignored in like... all of these discussions
#2 in pacific league + flexed init, senti, controller
dude is like the crashies of pacific except he flies under everyone's radar even more than crashies does because pacific is less relevant than americas
just wait Tokyo
he can prove
dezzo [#52]https://www.vlr.gg/189058/cloud9-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/189051/nrg-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-ur1/?game=123163&tab=overview
Victor is good but not consistent, he's not even top 3 in his team.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
victor can play every role in the game and is still high in statistics too lmfao. & s0m highest rated controller in americas (not counting less), yet neither are on the list.
this entire list is clearly just one sided towards a single region.
aylez [#56]https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1189/champions-tour-2023-americas-league
victor can play every role in the game and is still high in statistics too lmfao. & s0m highest rated controller in americas (not counting less), yet neither are on the list.
this entire list is clearly just one sided towards a single region.
11 EMEA
5 Americas - we have to wait for Tokyo for s0m
4 Pacific
as it's supposed to be
Acyclovir [#3]and there they (NA) are saying NA is the best region lol
he purposely didn't put NA players bc flag check
brobeans [#58]he purposely didn't put NA players bc flag check
tell me NA player that can be on this list
Gutssz [#57]11 EMEA
5 Americas - we have to wait for Tokyo for s0m
4 Pacificas it's supposed to be
s0m top controller in the entire league (1.13 R) but we have to wait for tokyo, sure bro sure!
aylez [#60]s0m top controller in the entire league (1.13 R) but we have to wait for tokyo, sure bro sure!
yes, you are right dude <3 just wait like me
333triplethreat [#64]surely u put cryo after his last few games, hes feeling it bois
top 30 for sure
Yessirskiiii [#37]There are no IGLs on the list otherwise Saadhak and FNS would of made it. I just think it's individually the top 20 best. In that case Saadhak and Cauanzin don't make it
tell my why not cauanzin then please
prensadode50 [#67]tell my why not cauanzin then please
talented and definitely he has potential
he could be in the top 20 after Tokyo
Gutssz [#41]++
GIA Cloud
KOI Sheydos
GIA nukkye
FUT Atakaptan
PRX f0rsaken
KOI trexxcau, tuyz, leaf and ardiis too
Sheydos lolololol
Gutssz [#59]tell me NA player that can be on this list
Marved, fns, yay, demon1, maybe Ethan, victor, maybe s0m
Gutssz [#59]tell me NA player that can be on this list
Marved, Victor, Demon1, Leaf, S0m. Just admit you don't watch pro Val
Infernando10 [#66]🚔👮♀️🚓🚓🚨🚨BAIT POLICE🚔👮♀️ 🚓🚓🚨🚨
THIS POST HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN DETECTED AS BAIT, KINDLY REFRAIN FROM TAKING THIS POST SERIOUSLY
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emirerays [#71]Fena değil güzel liste suygetsu biraz low bide ben leo yu 1 e shao yu 2 ye makoyu da 3 e koyardım
Sova alim bait atim günde 40 saat shock dart çalışayım insanlar beni top 3 alsın 😀
rygro [#73]Marved, Victor, Demon1, Leaf, S0m. Just admit you don't watch pro Val
Marved top 30 for sure, he should win LCQ
Victor top 25 for sure
Demon1 - he won't play in Tokyo so he can't prove himself
leaf - insane player but i want to see him in Champions
s0m - just one tournament and that is Tokyo, he will prove himself i hope
Gutssz [#77]Sova alim bait atim günde 40 saat shock dart çalışayım insanlar beni top 3 alsın 😀
Bait mi ? Olm bana leo yu savundurtma amk
Adam lock in mvpsi deli gibi oynadı amk halada mükemmel oynuyor. Bir kere negatif gittiğini gormedim maçlarda
Gutssz [#78]Marved top 30 for sure, he should win LCQ
Victor top 25 for sure
Demon1 - he won't play in Tokyo so he can't prove himself
leaf - insane player but i want to see him in Champions
s0m - just one tournament and that is Tokyo, he will prove himself i hope
What T1 tournament has Something participated in that hes proved himself to be a top 20 played but S0m and Demon1 haven't? Just admit your biased and only watch EMEA
Gutssz [#78]Marved top 30 for sure, he should win LCQ
Victor top 25 for sure
Demon1 - he won't play in Tokyo so he can't prove himself
leaf - insane player but i want to see him in Champions
s0m - just one tournament and that is Tokyo, he will prove himself i hope
Marved top 10
Victor top 10
Demon1 top 20 for bringing eg to lan
Leaf and s0m need to prove themselves on lan but play like top 20 rn
emirerays [#79]Bait mi ? Olm bana leo yu savundurtma amk
Adam lock in mvpsi deli gibi oynadı amk halada mükemmel oynuyor. Bir kere negatif gittiğini gormedim maçlarda
saka yaptım sevıyom lavugu ama top 3 değil ya
en iyi 4. Fnatic oyuncusu bence
chimpy [#81]Marved top 10
Victor top 10
Demon1 top 20 for bringing eg to lan
Leaf and s0m need to prove themselves on lan but play like top 20 rn
JUST GO SLEEP DUDE
rygro [#80]What T1 tournament has Something participated in that hes proved himself to be a top 20 played but S0m and Demon1 haven't? Just admit your biased and only watch EMEA
Final MVP and most rated player in Pacific
Gutssz [#78]Marved top 30 for sure, he should win LCQ
Victor top 25 for sure
Demon1 - he won't play in Tokyo so he can't prove himself
leaf - insane player but i want to see him in Champions
s0m - just one tournament and that is Tokyo, he will prove himself i hope
bro marved was masters mvp, masters finalist, and a champs finalist.
Gutssz [#84]Final MVP and most rated player in Pacific
In a domestic tournament? Seems more likely that its because hes Russian
rygro [#73]Marved, Victor, Demon1, Leaf, S0m. Just admit you don't watch pro Val
You forgot crashies
Cresp [#90]wym he got thrust into a team and is now igling by default. Better than kingg fs.
1.01 R
190.6 ACS
0.98 K/D
yeah he is better xD
Gutssz [#92]1.01 R
190.6 ACS
0.98 K/Dyeah he is better xD
oh hes doing bad when he joined a team with no system and was forced to igl, he is horrible. The only reason i didnt debate cned being on this list is bcuz he was good, but he has not been playing better than a t1 xeta, or demon1. But sure marved is bad because of his current stats.
Gutssz [#61]yes, you are right dude <3 just wait like me
we don’t have to wait for something at tokyo though, only s0m!
oh and cned’s rating is barely above 1.00, yet he is on this list!
Cresp [#95]oh hes doing bad when he joined a team with no system and was forced to igl, he is horrible. The only reason i didnt debate cned being on this list is bcuz he was good, but he has not been playing better than a t1 xeta, or demon1. But sure marved is bad because of his current stats.
then what are you discussing
he is not better than 20 players here
Gutssz [#59]tell me NA player that can be on this list
leaf should be #5 nats #6 on this specific list.
Gutssz [#99]then what are you discussing
he is not better than 20 players here
if ur only gonna take history into account for players like cned, your bias is palpable. Marved is 100% top 20 in the world throughout his whole career.
Yessirskiiii [#5]Individually NAVI have the best players itw imo. Just obviously not working out rn
if they had the best players they would win. please wake up
flames-leleo [#98]nAts above Less wtf
people started to overrating him again just because of fluke win against fnatic
weakest_marved_enjoyer [#101]youre gonna say that abt marved but not cned???? def no bias here
1.08 R
226.1 ACS
1.11 K/D
and he is fckn play Yoru and he will play in Tokyo and even maybe Champs
trustmebro [#104]people started to overrating him again just because of fluke win against fnatic
he's just underrated af
Gutssz [#106]he's just underrated af
ngl he is the best rat but i hate that play style. But it surely gives very good value to the team
Gutssz [#106]he's just underrated af
ngl he is the best rat but i hate that play style. But it surely gives very good value to the team
Yessirskiiii [#17]Maybe... I just think Shao, Zyppan and Suygetsu is a trio no other team has... They're all fucking insane mechanically with good gamesense. cNed has been good too but not as good as he can be. Ange1 been inting the whole season lol
Less, Aspas and Cauanzin are a much better trio in every single in game situation a player can be in.
Gutssz [#106]he's just underrated af
he is not even the best player in his team. there are more sentinel players better than nats
trustmebro [#113]he is not even the best player in his team. there are more sentinel players better than nats
there are more sentinel players better than nats
they are just aimer, nAts is the true goat Sentinel
Gutssz [#12]I guess you don't know about the players above?
i didn't care roles dude
Mako is the best player in the Pacific region, also best controller. Should be like 5th
Gutssz [#44]so nAts 5th on my list
he is not a aim god but he is here
Zyppan is insane flex, Suygetsu is best aimer maybe and cNed? just he needs to play Jett
Shao is Shao the Goat
nAts unironically is an aim god.
Itsover [#116]nAts unironically is an aim god.
i know but they will say that I am overrating him again
Gutssz [#105]1.08 R
226.1 ACS
1.11 K/Dand he is fckn play Yoru and he will play in Tokyo and even maybe Champs
S0m:
1.13 R
204.7 ACS
1.13 K/D
Has ONLY played controller. Why is it that EMEA constantly shows they have no idea what they're talking about?
rygro [#118]S0m:
1.13 R
204.7 ACS
1.13 K/DHas ONLY played controller. Why is it that EMEA constantly shows they have no idea what they're talking about?
he is proven player, s0m is not
Gutssz [#105]1.08 R
226.1 ACS
1.11 K/Dand he is fckn play Yoru and he will play in Tokyo and even maybe Champs
every pro would have good stats if they were being setup by there entire team lil bro.
Demon1 stats: 1.11 234.0 1.22
Demon1 is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than cned if we lookin at just 3 different stats
weakest_marved_enjoyer [#120]every pro would have good stats if they were being setup by there entire team lil bro.
Demon1 stats: 1.11 234.0 1.22
Demon1 is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than cned if we lookin at just 3 different stats
i saw your name now, bye
Gutssz [#119]he is proven player, s0m is not
cned only proven in history. Som played well internationally and has better stats rn. pick a criteria.
Gutssz [#32]sorry but no matter which player swap places with in the top 10 it's okay
but it's definitely not "criminal"
I really want to see him at the top 5 too, because he's just really solid as a player. But I won't lie he didn't perform as well as I had hoped against prx yesterday. If drx wants to win at tokyo he needs tk show up every game.
Subreezy [#124]11 EMEA
5 Americas (2 BR, 2 NA, 1 LATAM)
4 Pacific
Navi player at #1I wonder if this list is biased in any way...
im not biased
aylez [#97]we don’t have to wait for something at tokyo though, only s0m!
oh and cned’s rating is barely above 1.00, yet he is on this list!
he is most rated Pacific player and Grand Final MVP
DELUSIONAL_LAKIA_FAN [#127]nice bait post but the fact that you put mako at 10 is crazy
If this is a bait post, am I successful?
Yessirskiiii [#5]Individually NAVI have the best players itw imo. Just obviously not working out rn
yeah not working out maybe because they arent the best cuz to be the best you have to beat everyone?
Gutssz [#119]he is proven player, s0m is not
cNed hasn't won shit in 2 years. I guess we should add Tenz to the list as well? This a 2023 list, not 2021. I'm losing braincells responding to you. I guess the real key here is looking at your comment history where you're clearly Turkish. Bias is strong with the braindead EMEAs
rygro [#132]cNed hasn't won shit in 2 years. I guess we should add Tenz to the list as well? This a 2023 list, not 2021. I'm losing braincells responding to you. I guess the real key here is looking at your comment history where you're clearly Turkish. Bias is strong with the braindead EMEAs
Tenz's stats aren't even good
I think you are biased
Gutssz [#133]Tenz's stats aren't even good
I think you are biased
Constantly moving the goal posts. Yawn
trustmebro [#113]he is not even the best player in his team. there are more sentinel players better than nats
nAts clears everyone, proof: every sentinel player is a tier 3 sub to his streams judging by the setups everyone uses, all stolen from nAts
Kru [#140]Shao being #1 is crazy, and jamppi overatted af
-shao
-jamppi
-alfajer
-jinggg
-cned
-buzz
and this list might be good
hmm i won't take this
Kru [#140]Shao being #1 is crazy, and jamppi overatted af
-shao
-jamppi
-alfajer
-jinggg
-cned
-buzz
and this list might be good
Not having alfajer even top 20 is crazy he is literally 1 of the 2 best sentinels in the world right now and despite the rest of his team having an off day he almost single handedly won them ten grand final making it close he practically was taking on team liquid himself at some points and 1 of the main reasons ascent was 14-12 and fracture was 13-11 2 close maps was because of alfajer mostly not to mention he almost single handedly won fnatic lotus the highest rated player in emea and the highest k/d in emea and 1 of the highest across all leagues if not the highest he is definitely not just top 20 but top 10 when his team was having an off day he stepped up and made the series very close almost single handedly he is on the same level as chronicle, derke and Leo the others are certainly debatable though
Gutssz [#157]right now? yes but except Shao
Ig shao on a good day can keep up but you can sense the delusional EMEA fan energy from your ranking
kaibe8 [#158]Ig shao on a good day can keep up but you can sense the delusional EMEA fan energy from your ranking
can keep up? 💀
you can say Crashies is better than Suy, Zyppan or cNed but Shao is above him
Gutssz [#160]can keep up? 💀
you can say Crashies is better than Suy, Zyppan or cNed but Shao is above him
In their current form I would rank them equally
On a good day shao is better on a bad day he is worse
Also depends on how the team are setting them up and NAVI's teamplay is breaking down rn
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