Top 5 in each role currently?

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fiv5Mmmmm

This is my list, would you make changes?

Duelist:

Aspas
zekken
Derke
KK
t3xture

honorable mention for Jawgemo

Initiator:

Trexx (he is very underrated)
Trent
Riens
Nobody
johnqt/cauanzin

honorable mention for Patitek

Sentinel:

Less
Nats
Leaf
Yetujey
Shyy

Controller:

Mako
Karon
Chichoo
Smoggy
Valyn

Flex:

Meteor
Zellsis
Sayf
JonahP
Wo0t

Maybe there are some errors regarding the roles of the players as some teams do not have players with specific roles.
EDG doesn't have a fixed sentinel, SEN has 3 players playing as an initiator per game and T1 has 3 players playing as a duelist per game, so it's a bit confusing to know everyone's exact role

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Kicks>trexx

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unknown_trash

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omfg this is the worst trexx slander i have EVER seen. this is wild, you are underestimating my GOAT.

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shermie

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Theyre both top 5

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229fn

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kicks isn't even the best initiator on his team

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Galactc

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S1mon top 5 initiator assists matter

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fiv5Mmmmm

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He could be on the list, but unfortunately he is always way below his teammates

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Ayush__

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edg go from bombing out madrid shanghai s1mon joins they win champs, good self report on the i just view stat page

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Ullyr

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S1mon is great the reason why is cause EDG players are simply too good individually.

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kfan4238173

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mada > zekken

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k0ngh_11111

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ur so braindead

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kfan4238173

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mada better in sen city
mada again better in sen city
mada better in soop
mada better vs 100t
mada better in kickoff

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k0ngh_11111

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U cant be chatting. Zekken literally tied the kill record with demon1 before Kangkang came along and destroyed it. I mean i never said mada wasn't a bad player but zekken literally clears

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kfan4238173

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so we're discussing the jurassic period?

my fave is the dilophosaurus

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1243

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zeek........

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uwukitten

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cook

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kfan4238173

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hereshits

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k0ngh_11111

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alr fine take last year champs. Zekken was still the one fragging out in all of the matches. Mada is a good player but hes not on the level as zekken. Its like saying that asuna is better than Tenz. hes a good player but not as good as tenz

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nobody___100

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s0ntifrauds fan cant see that mada is the truth
zekken in the big 25 💔

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rud

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free1ng is a top 5 initiator

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fiv5Mmmmm

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He has been playing very well, but I think he still needs to play well in an international event

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PrincePuma01

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And he is not 4th or 5th

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Ullyr

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Chichoo is EDG sentinel, but they can be flexible. I feel like chichoo works best when he's anchoring a site.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Chichoo became better known as a controller, and in the last few games he played a lot in that role too, that's why I ended up putting him there

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trmnl

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im not even kidding im high asf on the keiko train

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saebr

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Zekken sneak 😂

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1243

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paper rex doesnt have one player in top 15

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BabyWizard

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Wajajajaja

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NotSanity

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All bias aside, f0rsakeN is well above Top 15.

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UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe

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Galactic level Less bias

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Realfacts

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Hyunmin in place of texture for sure from apac currently. Texture has been mid or average this kickoff. Popped off in last 2 maps today tho.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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t3xture was the best duelist in apac in my opinion, without him GenG wouldn't have gotten this far

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Realfacts

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More like without karon and munchkin and foxy 9 popping off in random matches geng wouldn't have made it this far. Texture overall performance wasn't as great this kickoff. You have to consider how much support he gets too in geng. Stats aren't everything but texture isn't even top 5 duelist in apac according to the stats. He popped off today in last 2 maps but was going negative before that.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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I watched the games, mechanically he is still one of the best

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Ryandr

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He is Mechanically good but I would rate even karon and foxy 9 in geng above him just mechanically.

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Ryandr

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Actual truth. Vlr overrates duelist as always. If you watched all geng games no way you can say geng got this far only cause of texture lol.
Karon and munchkin have been way better this whole kickoff. Foxy 9 inconsistent but high peak performance also helped too. No hate for texture but he wasn't geng best player this kickoff.

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iluckilyVA

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no freeing?

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fiv5Mmmmm

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In whose place?

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merciless-pity8989-89

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idk but he gotta be there is this is a current list

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PRLV

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no Keiko is insane

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Who would you put Keiko in whose place?

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PRLV

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Chichoo, hes not primary smoker

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MrBlooBloom

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kick one of edg's players and put keiko 4Th/5th

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windwine

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if its currently, leaf should be first and zekken shouldnt be so high up

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fiv5Mmmmm

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shouldn't zekken be so high?
he plays well in practically every game, I would say he is in his prime, he is insane

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windwine

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i dont think he is in peak form he has had some average games so far

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Cael

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honestly the sentinel category is completely wrong i dont think less is very good
shyy 3
leaf 2
1 idk
but also Nobody is a flex initator who's also igl and is doing crazy things def should be ranked higher
also Mada definetly deserves a spot somewhere and zekken is def not top 2

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windwine

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less is really good alot of pros agree but rn idt hes in amazing form and when he plays astra his job is just post plant

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Cael

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a lot of pros agree for PR

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windwine

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so like zekken tenz fns som all was just pr farming

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Toph_

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Duelist-
KK
Mada
Aspas
Zekken
Hyunmin

Senti-
Leaf
Nats
Less
Shyy
Yetujey

Controller-
Smoggy
Mako
Karon
S0m
Valyn

Initiator-
Trent
Trexx
Johnqt
Nobody
S1mon

Flex-
Meteor
Zellsis
Sayf
JonahP
Cryo

#40

fiv5Mmmmm

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No aspas.

#42

Toph_

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Yes.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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I'll pretend it's ragebait

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Anoymouse

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ewwwwwwwwwww wtf is this list

NEVER EVER PLZ FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE TIERLISTS AGAIN PLZ

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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Toph_

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Dont reply under me if you don't have ball knowledge lil guy

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m1kah

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Aspas is NOT 1

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fiv5Mmmmm

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And who is?

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laeDLaer

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derke

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flair

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Disastered

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kicks should be on this list somewhere, his support is unreal

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fiv5Mmmmm

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in whose place?

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Conceit

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Leaf third after what he's been doing has to be trolling

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fiv5Mmmmm

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I place him third because he only plays Chamber, Less and Nats play with Vyse, Cypher and KJ

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Conceit

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Leaf at kickoff has played chamber, vyse, and viper. Last year he played mostly killjoy, cypher, and viper. Plus, what kind of argument is that lmao

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fiv5Mmmmm

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The argument makes sense, are you going to tell me for example that Yay in 2022 was a good sentinel? He basically only played Chamber, and it doesn't make sense for you to say that he played Cypher and KJ last year, because I said currently

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WyldesDino

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keiko is top 1 controller and its not even bias

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fiv5Mmmmm

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flair

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WyldesDino

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of course im biased towards liquid players but even bias aside hes the best controller
and even if not how can the best emea player statistically not be in the top 5?

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fiv5Mmmmm

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numbers are not everything

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gordonramsay

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freeing top 5 initiators trust me, this guy will straight up aim diff other teams

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911dot

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For now RieNs is good but still Leo > RieNs but not a lot of gap since Leo is still recovering but beforehand Leo >>>>>>>>>>> RieNs

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fiv5Mmmmm

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currently

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youkpso

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Why are Primmie,f0rsaken,iZu,Rb not in Flex?
PACIFIC is a Flex production area.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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omg

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windwine

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primmie hasnt done much forsaken currently hasnt played much and same with izu

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OCARINA

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Izu played very good tbh

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tungsten_cube_

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swap zekken and kangkang otherwise good list

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zhongZHI

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yea wth why is he genuinely so high

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Huitzilopochtli

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Keiko is literally the best rated player in emea, having him not in top 5 controller is crazy

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fiv5Mmmmm

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numbers are not everything

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Huitzilopochtli

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you gotta be joking, he was Liquids most impactful player and the best player in emea this kickoff, wtf is this numbers are not lying...

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OCARINA

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Keiko deserve to be in top 5 blud is monster