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CanadaMan [#6]DRG was the 4th best team in Chinas kickoff. they only got out that early because of EDG
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CanadaMan [#6]DRG was the 4th best team in Chinas kickoff. they only got out that early because of EDG
Hotness 5/10
Correctness 8/10
They definitely are in the discussion for top 4 in china since FPX looked so...mid
Right now I'd say it's
EDG
TRACE
BLG/XLG/DRG
NOVA/FPX
and then the rest
MissesHisShots [#11]Hotness 5/10
Correctness 8/10They definitely are in the discussion for top 4 in china since FPX looked so...mid
Right now I'd say it's
EDG
TRACE
BLG/XLG/DRG
NOVA/FPX
and then the rest
thank you very much but... hotness only 5/10? I'm literally so hot like at least 7/10
44GoKU [#3]g2 dont make bangkok
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 4/10
I just don't see it, they look so strong that I don't think they won't come at least 2nd
They'll def beat LEV, Sen vs G2 is very winnable for G2 and in fact I favor them in that series
If they do lose however I still think they'd be strong enough to go though lowers
CanadaMan [#12]thank you very much but... hotness only 5/10? I'm literally so hot like at least 7/10
idk you personally but I don't think it's that hot of a take, I think people rate DRG overall
MissesHisShots [#16]idk you personally but I don't think it's that hot of a take, I think people rate DRG overall
ohhhhhhhh my dumbass thought you were rating my hotness like my physical appearance
z12 [#5]I think rrq and drx make it to bangkok
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 6/10
It's definitely possible that DRX make Bangkok as they look like the best APAC team rn, cold take
RRQ on the other hand, I don't think they have it in them to make a run like that, especially if xffero is still sick
They'd have to beat NS, Talon/T1, PRX AND the loser of the upper final and I think it might be too hard for them.
If it does happen tho I'll become an RRQ fan on top of many other teams I support
froggy_lol [#9]EG will qualify for Bangkok
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 3/10
As much as I'd love for it to happen, it's not going to
the absolute GAUNTLET they'd have to go through will prove too much for the team
I really like EG tho and I wish them lots successes in this year (I hope they make champs and yay proves his doubters wrong)
CanadaMan [#17]ohhhhhhhh my dumbass thought you were rating my hotness like my physical appearance
r u slow
femboyenjoyer [#21]c9 drops someone for marved(im coping)
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 6/10
For the roles to make sense they'd have to drop v1c unless they drop more than 1 player
I can see Clown9 dropping players because fuck you that's why
The bigger issue is I'm not sure if Marved would even want to play for C9
islaaa [#8]FUT is the best EMEA team rn
Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 8/10
They're definitely top 2, but since we haven't seen much of them or Team Sickretics I can see why you'd think that
FUT are a great team and I hope they get a good result at an international this year
MissesHisShots [#15]Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 4/10
I just don't see it, they look so strong that I don't think they won't come at least 2nd
They'll def beat LEV, Sen vs G2 is very winnable for G2 and in fact I favor them in that series
If they do lose however I still think they'd be strong enough to go though lowers
g2 will lose out they play normally and try to control the pace of the game but if weird strat and idea are applied will throw them off bad plus they rely on leaf winning his 1v1 alot and sometimes leave him on a site himself
Aayan [#14]M8 make lower finals at least
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 6/10
They have a hard bracket and even if they beat Fnatic I don't think it'd be doable
Fnatic, Fut/Vit, BBL
It would be interesting if that happened tbh, but it's unlikely
44GoKU [#27]g2 will lose out they play normally and try to control the pace of the game but if weird strat and idea are applied will throw them off bad plus they rely on leaf winning his 1v1 alot and sometimes leave him on a site himself
that's an interesting way to look at it, however I don't think any of the americas teams are the type to throw a random weird strat at G2
even if, I think their firepower will bail them out and they'll adapt in 2-4 rounds
syncz [#25]EDG are winning Bangkok and TRACE will be second
I did say Kickoff, meaning ONLY Kickoff and not Bangkok, but since you're here....
Hotness: 10/10
Correctness: idk like a 2/10
As a fellow EDG believer I think they have a legit shot at winning
The second part of your take drags it down overall since I really think G2 are so much better than them
SAMPV6 [#13]NRG implode
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 4/10
Unlikely, but very funny if it happens
RIP FNS's last year
CanadaMan [#6]DRG was the 4th best team in Chinas kickoff. they only got out that early because of EDG
they got 4th no?
BEHEMOTH [#33]Furia will cook, let them settle, khalil is a bum tho
Hotness: 5/10
Correctness: 5/10
I think the Furia roster has potential based on the off-season, but that's only if they all click at the same time
Just give them time they will be the 10th best Americas team
queueK [#36]we witness derke's apotheosis after he drops 1000 acs in the grand final
If this ends up being true then Derke is the undisputed Goat alongside Chronicle
Kirya [#39]Gx will win it all
I SPECIFICALLY said KICKOFF take
but since you seem reasonable I'll do it anyway
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 4/10
There are lots of strong teams across the leagues and I don't think Giantx are one of those.
If they are to win they'd have to pull some serious bullshit out of their asses or really improve after kickoff, maybe a roster change or 2
Unlikely but plausible
MissesHisShots [#41]I SPECIFICALLY said KICKOFF take
but since you seem reasonable I'll do it anyway
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 4/10
There are lots of strong teams across the leagues and I don't think Giantx are one of those.
If they are to win they'd have to pull some serious bullshit out of their asses or really improve after kickoff, maybe a roster change or 2
Unlikely but plausible
They will win kickoff all good
cameran [#37]Nrg loses to kru
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 4/10
I love Kru, but they confuse me
They looked lost against LOUD but beat the piss out of 2Glue
It'd be really funny if it happens and I'd love for it to happen, but I don't think it will
tiAsunNS [#46]Lev is NOT that good
and
Prx will not make bangkok
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness 9/10
Lev is 100% not as good as people make them out to be
PRX still have a shot at Bangkok but it's likely they won't make it.
I agree with you a lot
s-unny [#48]Liquid make bangkok
Hotness: 10/10
Correctness: no
no shot. Liquid look so bad in their games there is no way
MissesHisShots [#49]Hotness: 10/10
Correctness: no
no shot. Liquid look so bad in their games there is no way
They have good abyss and haven and their fracture and pearl can be good too so you might never know
Pacific is awful (top teams)
The average level of the region has been very impressive, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the region go 0-4 at Bangkok. Granted, the sample size is small, but all 3 of GENG, T1, PRX have left a ton to be desired imo and despite impressive, I don't see a team like RRQ hitting the level required to be a real threat internationally either. I'm not concerned long term, but I'm seriously pessimistic about the top end of Pacific going into Bangkok
Trevor52lv [#52]Pacific is awful (top teams)
The average level of the region has been very impressive, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the region go 0-4 at Bangkok. Granted, the sample size is small, but all 3 of GENG, T1, PRX have left a ton to be desired imo and despite impressive, I don't see a team like RRQ hitting the level required to be a real threat internationally either. I'm not concerned long term, but I'm seriously pessimistic about the top end of Pacific going into Bangkok
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 7/10
I think Pacific has the highest floor but also the lowest ceiling out of the 4 regions right now
You are forgetting DRX who I think will make it and will at least get a win but overall I agree with you
Wingull [#56]Not too hot of a take but i wanted to throw it out there
If Bangkok has the 8 teams it's looking like will make it (G2, NRG/Sen, TH, Vit, DRX, T1/PRX, EDG, TE) then there won't be a bad game all tournament every matchup will be hype
that's just how it's supposed to be. only good teams make it and every game is GAS
MissesHisShots [#53]Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 7/10
I think Pacific has the highest floor but also the lowest ceiling out of the 4 regions right now
You are forgetting DRX who I think will make it and will at least get a win but overall I agree with you
I almost included DRX when I mentioned RRQ, just felt like RRQ were the ones who were being thought of slightly higher rn. DRX and them are basically neck and neck for likelihood to make imo.
Curtymac7 [#59]FNC make it to the finals in a lower bracket run with Kajaak activated
Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: correct
WHO ARE WE!? FA NA TIC!!
MissesHisShots [#60]Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: correct
WHO ARE WE!? FA NA TIC!!
WHO. ARE. WE? FNC! You're so real for that
Curtymac7 [#62]WHO. ARE. WE? FNC! You're so real for that
in seriousned their potential game against FUT/Vitality will make or break their run, with FNC being underdogs imo
Correctness: 7/10, likely but not guaranteed
bronzil_enjoyer [#61]t1 won't make bangkok
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 5/10
There is certainly a world where they don't make it but I think they have the best shot excluding DRX
Could happen, but probably won't
Disastered [#65]Team secret's showing was unlucky
Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 6/10
Team Secret played 2 quite strong teams and whilst they dominated on map 1 in both games they ended up losing soundly
At this point you have to ask if it's unlucky or maybe a choking issue?
Anyway they didn't play a weaker team so we might not know, they played teams on their level or higher so in that sense you can say they were unlucky
MissesHisShots [#29]Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 6/10
They have a hard bracket and even if they beat Fnatic I don't think it'd be doable
Fnatic, Fut/Vit, BBL
It would be interesting if that happened tbh, but it's unlikely
Kinda funny that you just assume team heretics will just win out
MissesHisShots [#67]Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 6/10
Team Secret played 2 quite strong teams and whilst they dominated on map 1 in both games they ended up losing soundly
At this point you have to ask if it's unlucky or maybe a choking issue?
Anyway they didn't play a weaker team so we might not know, they played teams on their level or higher so in that sense you can say they were unlucky
nah it was choking no way jessievash is shooting more than everyone else, but yknow.
Prancer [#68]Kinda funny that you just assume team heretics will just win out
At some point you just have to assume shit and hope it works out
Also it's the most likely outcome and if TH lose then the chances for M80 plummit
(I hope they'll be cured of whatever disease was bothering them in their first match)
Disastered [#69]nah it was choking no way jessievash is shooting more than everyone else, but yknow.
I don't know, but I'll pretend I do know
MissesHisShots [#71]I don't know, but I'll pretend I do know
hes 34, lowk impressive but like wheres the youngins on the team
MissesHisShots [#70]At some point you just have to assume shit and hope it works out
Also it's the most likely outcome and if TH lose then the chances for M80 plummit
(I hope they'll be cured of whatever disease was bothering them in their first match)
I think vitality /fut can give them a run for their money honestly. Rn after the games I saw I think it's 50/50
Prancer [#73]I think vitality /fut can give them a run for their money honestly. Rn after the games I saw I think it's 50/50
I agree but all M8 have to do is make the lower final so the upper final result doesn't matter and I have not included it so it's irrelevant to the discussion
Unless you're arguing that M8 are on the level of Fut and Vitality in which case...yeah no
Edit: I didn't mean to come off as rude, so I apologize
mnkykng [#75]drx, gen dont make bangkok
Last one for the day
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 5/10
As a DRX believer for kickoff I do think they have the best chance at making it to Bangkok
I can totally see GenG not making it tho, this team lives and dies by Foxy9
MissesHisShots [#57]that's just how it's supposed to be. only good teams make it and every game is GAS
Well yeah in theory, but last year madrid had only 4 or 5 good teams whereas both cn teams, team heretics, and loud all looked pretty dull leading to games like the 26-5 during loud vs EDG
This year looks like the average power of all 8 teams is so much higher and I'm hugely excited
MissesHisShots [#19]Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 6/10
It's definitely possible that DRX make Bangkok as they look like the best APAC team rn, cold takeRRQ on the other hand, I don't think they have it in them to make a run like that, especially if xffero is still sick
They'd have to beat NS, Talon/T1, PRX AND the loser of the upper final and I think it might be too hard for them.If it does happen tho I'll become an RRQ fan on top of many other teams I support
DRX do NOT look like the best apac team
pkSqueegee [#84]100T would still be in kickoff if boostio didn't play like he started using a computer last week
Hotness: 1/10
Correctness: 9/10
I mean....yeah? I don't know what else to say
delighted [#88]TLN and DFM make Bangkok
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 4/10
Talon have a better chance but I don't think they'll beat T1 or DRX, the main contenders for the top 2 spots
And as much as I love our lord and savior Meiy I don't think they'll beat PRX
I just don't see it
Maximus1223344 [#86]Kaajak will diff Derke in the lower/grand final
Hotness: 9/10
Correctness: 5/10
kajaak vs one of the GOATS is an interesting matchup in theory, but I don't think the youngling will diff Derke
The more likely outcome is the rest of VIT not stepping up and kajaak doing just enough to secure the dub
KClaw [#91]Fnc don't make bangkok
Hotness: 4/10
Correctness: 7/10
As a closeted Fnatic supporter I'd hate that, but it might just happen.
Fnatic didn't make enough improvements to their squad (it's hard to replace Derke and Leo after all) while the rest of the field signed cracked players and now FNC don't look as good as they used to anymore
I hate that but what can you do
Kaust [#95]XLG wins Bangkok!
unmeasurable/10 Hotness
-10/10 correctness as XLG got 13-0'd to end their tournament life
You're welcome, MissesHisShots
neuroniumtwistanium [#97]unmeasurable/10 Hotness
-10/10 correctness as XLG got 13-0'd to end their tournament lifeYou're welcome, MissesHisShots
Appreciate it, GenG believer "neuroniumtwistanium"
MissesHisShots [#98]Appreciate it, GenG believer "neuroniumtwistanium"
Been here supporting Gen.G since the first roster got announced in late 2022 post champs
D3veloper [#100]NongShim wins kickoff without any lose
(21 win streak)
Hotness: 10/10
Correctness: -1/10
They lost to DRX
D3veloper [#103]NongShim qualifies bangkok
From premier -> masters ?
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 6/10
They lost to (what I consider) the best APAC team rn but I still rate them really highly
I can see it happening if they get GenG and PRX but they'll struggle against T1
BEHEMOTH [#33]Furia will cook, let them settle, khalil is a bum tho
khalil had that one life game tho
Maximus1223344 [#106]Aspas e amigos will play loud in lw3 + despite a great performance by aspas loud will win
Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 7/10
How can they play LOUD if they're going out against EG?
In all seriousness, I think that's just a good take if Loud continue their good form and cortezia forgets to plug in his monitor (this is a joke)
Curtymac7 [#62]WHO. ARE. WE? FNC! You're so real for that
OOOO AAA EEEEE. we need that guy back on stage
Average_VCT_fan [#107]Prx will crumble in the lower bracket and will not make bangkok
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 6/10
With how they looked against T1 (before T1 let them back into the game) it could very well happen and I wouldn't be surprised
They'll definitely beat DFM but I don't have as much faith in them if they play DRX or GenG
Fon [#82]DRX do NOT look like the best apac team
I think they're the most consistent and quite good
I value consistency over peaks so maybe it's just me
Maximus1223344 [#114]Lev will loose to G2 and NRG ( unless Demon1 doesn’t play Raze)
Dude it's your 3rd hot take relax 😭 (jk I need something to do iły fnc fan)
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 6/10
Lev will def lose to G2, Leviathan look kinda mid this year even with all the talent
I'm not sure about NRG yet, they're very up and down and it'll come down to their form
Definitely possible and unsurprising if comes true
UrWaifu [#4]RRQ made it to Bangkok
Kushy is the goat
#VIVARRQ
It's possible. This is the best RRQ has ever been
MissesHisShots [#115]Dude it's your 3rd hot take relax 😭 (jk I need something to do iły fnc fan)
Hotness: 7/10
Correctness: 6/10
Lev will def lose to G2, Leviathan look kinda mid this year even with all the talent
I'm not sure about NRG yet, they're very up and down and it'll come down to their form
Definitely possible and unsurprising if comes true
Sorry Bro but I’m kinda depressed bcs china kickoff already finished and I’ve only seen 2 FNC matches
Maximus1223344 [#117]Sorry Bro but I’m kinda depressed bcs china kickoff already finished and I’ve only seen 2 FNC matches
We can cry together as FNC fans, the BBL game was soul crushing and yeah there's not much else to watch bc china ended so soon
neuroniumtwistanium [#97]unmeasurable/10 Hotness
-10/10 correctness as XLG got 13-0'd to end their tournament lifeYou're welcome, MissesHisShots
Well that's incredibly mean of you ):
MissesHisShots [#96]uh....someone tell him I don't have the heart
How about TE causes generational upset at Bangkok?
zephyrara [#119]prx makes Bangkok and g2 disappoints this year
PRX makes Bangkok
Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 6/10
Could see it happen but it's unlikely with how many "good"/"top" teams there are in APAC rn, and with how they looked against T1 I think PRX will end up 3rd or 4th
Kaust [#121]How about TE causes generational upset at Bangkok?
You mean like an upset win over G2?
I mean...could happen but also it's unlikely unless FengF has a generational series
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 5/10
MissesHisShots [#123]You mean like an upset win over G2?
I mean...could happen but also it's unlikely unless FengF has a generational series
Hotness: 8/10
Correctness: 5/10
I politely disagree, FengF is in no way a carry. heybay's aim has improved quite a tad since champs, Luok1ng has always been quite good, Kai is lowkey the best player on the team, Biank probably weakest link on the team tbf. But yeah, FengF having a generational series would likely bag them a solid win.
Kaust [#124]I politely disagree, FengF is in no way a carry. heybay's aim has improved quite a tad since champs, Luok1ng has always been quite good, Kai is lowkey the best player on the team, Biank probably weakest link on the team tbf. But yeah, FengF having a generational series would likely bag them a solid win.
From what I was watching Trace FengF was owning (apart from that abyss against EDG
Kai, then FengF then Luok1ng, heybay and I agree Biank is the weakest link.
That doesn't mean they can't all start to hit and own people
MissesHisShots [#26]Hotness: 6/10
Correctness: 8/10
They're definitely top 2, but since we haven't seen much of them or Team Sickretics I can see why you'd think that
FUT are a great team and I hope they get a good result at an international this year
I played against xeus in team deathmatch, he had anonymous name so i only saw it after the match, literally everyone from my team and his team said that hes a cheater, i personally thought he was using triggerbot, your brain doesnt get to react to seeing him he already one taps u, i did manage to get him 4 times but that was only when he whiffed on me or i managed to one tap him, if u spray ur dead, im asc3 if it matters
MissesHisShots [#125]From what I was watching Trace FengF was owning (apart from that abyss against EDG
Kai, then FengF then Luok1ng, heybay and I agree Biank is the weakest link.
That doesn't mean they can't all start to hit and own people
Which team do you want to see overperform?
OrangeKatsu [#127]Geng dont make bangkok
Hotness: 4/10
Correctness: 7/10
With the amount of "top" teams in APAC it's only natural one of them misses out and it very well could be GenG
Not that hot of a take
229fn [#126]G2 jumps off the map again
How funny would that be
Lots of teams jump off the map after a failed 5-stacking a site so G2 jumping wouldn't be THAT surprising
Hotness: 3/10
Correctness: 8/10
Kaust [#129]Which team do you want to see overperform?
With how things are looking right now, I'd love for one of the 2nd seeds from either APAC or EMEA to overperform and prove everyone who thinks they're the 2 weakest regions wrong
hmjkhbhuy [#135]PRX dont change their roster for the entire year(ik not kickoffs but still hot take)
Hotness: 1/10
Correctness: 10/10
At this point they're just a pack of friends fucking around and owning T1 teams
I don't even know what kind of roster change they could make
BalkanSigma78 [#128]I played against xeus in team deathmatch, he had anonymous name so i only saw it after the match, literally everyone from my team and his team said that hes a cheater, i personally thought he was using triggerbot, your brain doesnt get to react to seeing him he already one taps u, i did manage to get him 4 times but that was only when he whiffed on me or i managed to one tap him, if u spray ur dead, im asc3 if it matters
Imma need some clarification if this is a copypasta or not
MissesHisShots [#136]Hotness: 1/10
Correctness: 10/10
At this point they're just a pack of friends fucking around and owning T1 teams
I don't even know what kind of roster change they could make
- j0nggg
+yay
MissesHisShots [#131]How funny would that be
Lots of teams jump off the map after a failed 5-stacking a site so G2 jumping wouldn't be THAT surprising
Hotness: 3/10
Correctness: 8/10
yes but it's G2, i legally have to clown on them
MudKiko [#141]so same thing
I don't think you appreciate the brain power it takes for canadaman (and other baiters) to come up with such elaborate ragebaits. Some of our greatest minds can never find out what is bait and what is stupidity, it's a fine line. Just like absolute insanity and being a genius
Prancer [#142]I don't think you appreciate the brain power it takes for canadaman (and other baiters) to come up with such elaborate ragebaits. Some of our greatest minds can never find out what is bait and what is stupidity, it's a fine line. Just like absolute insanity and being a genius
type shi
femboyenjoyer [#21]c9 drops someone for marved(im coping)
Wait they dropping me, I didn't even know I'm on the team.
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