Nongshim RedForce 2-1 Talon
2 Overtimes
Primmie aces
Sunday, February 2nd
3:00 AM EST
Patch 10.01
NS ban Abyss; TLN ban Pearl; NS pick Lotus; TLN pick Bind; NS ban Haven; TLN ban Fracture; Split remains
Betting
$100 on
TALON
returned
$200 at 2.00 pre-match odds
$100 on
TALON
returned
$205 at 2.05 pre-match odds
Streams
Maps/Stats
| Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
TLN |
2
|
2 (2)
|
2 (0)
|
6 (3)
|
12 (4)
|
NS |
0
|
3 (0)
|
2 (1)
|
2 (1)
|
15 (11)
|
Eco: 0-5k
$ Semi-eco: 5-10k
$$ Semi-buy: 10-20k
$$$ Full buy: 20k+
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
1
0.3k
0.7k
|
2
2.5k
$$
7.8k
|
3
12.6k
$$$
$$$
0.3k
|
4
2.5k
$$$
$$$
10.5k
|
5
7.0k
$$$
$$$
8.6k
|
6
2.4k
$$$
$$$
15.5k
|
7
8.6k
$$$
$$$
3.7k
|
8
3.0k
$$$
$$$
13.0k
|
9
4.3k
$$$
$$$
3.6k
|
10
9.6k
$
$$$
11.7k
|
11
2.5k
$$$
$$$
23.1k
|
12
8.4k
$$$
$$$
8.8k
|
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
13
0.9k
0.3k
|
14
1.1k
$$
$
5.9k
|
15
13.6k
$$
$$
0.6k
|
16
4.2k
$$$
$$
2.8k
|
17
6.7k
$$$
$
7.1k
|
18
9.2k
$
$$$
11.0k
|
19
2.6k
$$$
$$$
18.0k
|
20
0.8k
$$
$$$
20.2k
|
21
0.2k
$$
$$$
24.1k
|
22
2.3k
$$
$$$
11.4k
|
| Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
TLN |
2
|
3 (2)
|
2 (1)
|
4 (3)
|
14 (7)
|
|
NS |
0
|
3 (0)
|
0 (0)
|
8 (2)
|
12 (8)
|
Eco: 0-5k
$ Semi-eco: 5-10k
$$ Semi-buy: 10-20k
$$$ Full buy: 20k+
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
1
0.1k
0.4k
|
2
2.7k
$$
8.4k
|
3
14.3k
$$$
$$$
0.8k
|
4
3.8k
$$$
$$
11.4k
|
5
7.0k
$$$
$$$
1.3k
|
6
11.5k
$
$$$
10.9k
|
7
11.1k
$$$
$$
2.9k
|
8
15.3k
$$$
$$
6.2k
|
9
11.7k
$$$
$$$
2.2k
|
10
3.9k
$$
$$
4.8k
|
11
10.7k
$$$
$$
2.4k
|
12
4.0k
$$$
$$
0.3k
|
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
13
0.1k
0.5k
|
14
0.8k
$$
$$
0.6k
|
15
10.0k
$$
3.6k
|
16
2.0k
$$$
$$$
7.3k
|
17
2.9k
$$$
$$$
21.2k
|
18
11.8k
$
$$$
29.1k
|
19
4.3k
$$$
$$$
34.3k
|
20
6.9k
$$$
$$$
20.7k
|
21
8.1k
$$$
$$$
11.5k
|
22
6.6k
$$$
$$$
14.0k
|
23
4.2k
$$
$$$
23.8k
|
| Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
TLN |
2
|
2 (2)
|
1 (1)
|
4 (3)
|
11 (7)
|
|
NS |
0
|
4 (0)
|
1 (0)
|
6 (3)
|
7 (2)
|
Eco: 0-5k
$ Semi-eco: 5-10k
$$ Semi-buy: 10-20k
$$$ Full buy: 20k+
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
1
0.3k
0.6k
|
2
0.7k
$$
9.2k
|
3
13.1k
$$
$$$
0.8k
|
4
2.6k
$$$
$
10.2k
|
5
7.6k
$$$
$$$
0.7k
|
6
17.5k
$$$
$$
5.7k
|
7
6.3k
$$$
$$$
9.1k
|
8
6.5k
$$$
$$$
21.6k
|
9
8.5k
$$$
$$$
9.6k
|
10
12.1k
$$$
$$$
6.0k
|
11
11.6k
$$$
$$
3.0k
|
12
10.0k
$$$
$$
0.7k
|
|
(BANK)
TLN
NS
(BANK)
|
13
0.3k
0.7k
|
14
2.8k
$$
8.0k
|
15
14.2k
$$
$$
0.9k
|
16
9.1k
$$$
$$
1.3k
|
17
9.7k
$
$$
11.5k
|
18
10.1k
$$$
$$$
1.2k
|
| Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
TLN |
6
|
7 (6)
|
5 (2)
|
14 (9)
|
37 (18)
|
|
NS |
0
|
10 (0)
|
3 (1)
|
16 (6)
|
34 (21)
|
Eco: 0-5k
$ Semi-eco: 5-10k
$$ Semi-buy: 10-20k
$$$ Full buy: 20k+
Head-to-head
Past Matches
meanmean [#54]NS 2-0 ez ngl
I don't think so this match would be that easy to be honest. Depends on the mental health of NS. They must be tired of yesterday's match but yeah hope they got enough rest and prep
MeowLondon [#82]Just kick Crws , Tal0n wll win
U watching the same game as me?
GOVERNOR need to GET OUT🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥
RatLoverOK69 [#74]why is gov trolling on purpose?????
on purpose? i feel like it's his usual playstyle
irishsamingg [#41]pr0000000m00000000 most overrated player in valorant history alongside j00000000ngggggggg and s000mth0000nggggggg
hmm
donkie [#95]gov is the best korean duelist rn???????????????????????????????
hyunmin and buzz stil exists bro
gayboi [#84]GOVORNOR THIS IS YOUR MAP TO PROVE US WRONG I CANT KEEP DEFENDING YOU ANY LONGER LOCK THE FUCK IN
yea he prove it
donkie [#95]gov is the best korean duelist rn???????????????????????????????
omfg what did i just read
monopoly90 [#28]o7 to talon, for a mid team I admit they did okay for staying in the tourney this long
yeah yeah
Das2teEnde [#107]Gg nt my goat ivy (questions do yall think ns>guard as ascention Team or no?)
i love NS, but nah guard/current g2 is insane
newbiezz [#118]Primmie got lucky again, but he’ll be exposed in the next game
nah fake thai ahh comment
MeowLondon [#82]Just kick Crws , Tal0n wll win
you really want to kick talon's igt? (in game translator)
qwer348 [#132]primmie best player in the world rn?
he's always good but best in the world he must approve more
MeowLondon [#82]Just kick Crws , Tal0n wll win
nah TLN can't kick him because he's do everythings in talon
qwer348 [#132]primmie best player in the world rn?
Hard to say who is "the best". By statistics when you take the last 4 years of VCT it's Fnatic Leo (numbers of disconnected duels, impact, KAST% / survivability and winning duels in low chance situations).
When you take Duelists and these kind of entrying players who are also anchoring etc., I'd say Derke, aspas, primmie, MiniBoo, zekken, something, Jemkin, KangKang, xeus and kaajak are the best at the moment. Like of all the players in VCT. Hard to tell who's the best - by mechanics probably Derke, aspas, primmie and xeus. That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.
Fact is also primmie would play even better stats at a better team. So I'd say he is def. one of the top 3 Duelist style players when it comes to pure talent. Interesting though, that he did almost no entry kills in this match. It were much more anchor kills.
Sonatine [#135]Hard to say who is "the best". By statistics when you take the last 4 years of VCT it's Fnatic Leo (numbers of disconnected duels, impact, KAST% / survivability and winning duels in low chance situations).
When you take Duelists and these kind of entrying players who are also anchoring etc., I'd say Derke, aspas, primmie, MiniBoo, zekken, something, Jemkin, KangKang, xeus and kaajak are the best at the moment. Like of all the players in VCT. Hard to tell who's the best - by mechanics probably Derke, aspas, primmie and xeus. That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.
Fact is also primmie would play even better stats at a better team. So I'd say he is def. one of the top 3 Duelist style players when it comes to pure talent. Interesting though, that he did almost no entry kills in this match. It were much more anchor kills.
the issue is talon didnt play against any good team only played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team so next match will decide if they are actually good & primme is top 3 duelist !!
Wts_mesole [#128]Hope to see nrg in bangkok soon!
nrg played against 100t & kru & all of them made internationals where as talon played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team who never made any international so next game will decide if talon is actually good or not
Razib_Khan [#139]the issue is talon didnt play against any good team only played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team so next match will decide if they are actually good & primme is top 3 duelist !!
true but they did put up numbers against T1 tho, so for a mid team they are not too shabby i guess
Razib_Khan [#140]nrg played against 100t & kru & all of them made internationals where as talon played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team who never made any international so next game will decide if talon is actually good or not
If you dont know talon make international too
I mean bro they almost beat t1
Sonatine [#135]Hard to say who is "the best". By statistics when you take the last 4 years of VCT it's Fnatic Leo (numbers of disconnected duels, impact, KAST% / survivability and winning duels in low chance situations).
When you take Duelists and these kind of entrying players who are also anchoring etc., I'd say Derke, aspas, primmie, MiniBoo, zekken, something, Jemkin, KangKang, xeus and kaajak are the best at the moment. Like of all the players in VCT. Hard to tell who's the best - by mechanics probably Derke, aspas, primmie and xeus. That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.
Fact is also primmie would play even better stats at a better team. So I'd say he is def. one of the top 3 Duelist style players when it comes to pure talent. Interesting though, that he did almost no entry kills in this match. It were much more anchor kills.
"miniboo, something, jemkin, xeus, kaajak, primmie"
what are you saying
they are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO being the best
3 of them are fucking rookies
y'all are clueless
also drop the fnatic bias
"primmie one of the top 3 duelists when it comes to talent" LMAOAKA
leo hasn't played in a year move on
1243 [#145]"miniboo, something, jemkin, xeus, kaajak, primmie"
what are you saying
they are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO being the best
3 of them are fucking rookies
y'all are clueless
also drop the fnatic bias
"primmie one of the top 3 duelists when it comes to talent" LMAOAKA
leo hasn't played in a year move on
I said overall by their talent they def. belong to the best and showed it already.
I also said this: That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.
When we talk about primmie we can talk about MiniBoo easily - and also about the others, since primmie didn't play majors yet. But people can acknowledge TALENT and mechanical abilities, skill to roam, to anchor... you can see that at players without seeing them on majors, even though they need to prove it of course that they can show it under pressure on big stages.
So I guess we agree there. Many talents need to show it on a long term.
I'm not FNC biased. I'm just into statistics because numbers don't lie.
Most deadly players in 2024 by duels (Leo by far on #1):
https://i.ibb.co/yBN74mGW/Unbenannt.png
Best players 2024 (Leo played almost 900 rounds; by far the best KAST% and best disconnected duel wins as always):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=61&event_id=all®ion=all&min_rounds=500&min_rating=1550&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=all
Best players OF ALL TIME in VCT (min. OPP raiting of 2000 and min. 750 rounds against top rated players / Leo is the #1):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=all&min_rounds=750&min_rating=2000&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=all
- Leo also was rated 1x official major MVP by Riot and 2x unofficially by one of the big websites (VLR, SPIKE.GG etc.)
- Leo is #1 by VLR and THESPIKE.GG rating for 2023, #2 for 2022 and #2 for 2021 (no other player has such a crazy top 3 stats)
So... it's just numbers. No bias there.
And primmies stats also don't lie. He is a menace. I'm 99% sure players like MiniBoo, primmie and xeus will show great performances on big stages.
Sonatine [#147]I said overall by their talent they def. belong to the best and showed it already.
I also said this: That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.
When we talk about primmie we can talk about MiniBoo easily - and also about the others, since primmie didn't play majors yet. But people can acknowledge TALENT and mechanical abilities, skill to roam, to anchor... you can see that at players without seeing them on majors, even though they need to prove it of course that they can show it under pressure on big stages.
So I guess we agree there. Many talents need to show it on a long term.
I'm not FNC biased. I'm just into statistics because numbers don't lie.
Most deadly players in 2024 by duels (Leo by far on #1):
https://i.ibb.co/yBN74mGW/Unbenannt.pngBest players 2024 (Leo played almost 900 rounds; by far the best KAST% and best disconnected duel wins as always):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=61&event_id=all®ion=all&min_rounds=500&min_rating=1550&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=allBest players OF ALL TIME in VCT (min. OPP raiting of 2000 and min. 750 rounds against top rated players / Leo is the #1):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=all&min_rounds=750&min_rating=2000&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=all
- Leo also was rated 1x official major MVP by Riot and 2x unofficially by one of the big websites (VLR, SPIKE.GG etc.)
- Leo is #1 by VLR and THESPIKE.GG rating for 2023, #2 for 2022 and #2 for 2021 (no other player has such a crazy top 3 stats)
So... it's just numbers. No bias there.
And primmies stats also don't lie. He is a menace. I'm 99% sure players like MiniBoo, primmie and xeus will show great performances on big stages.
COOK THAT FRAUD
Prontera [#67]2-0 nongshim.
SEA is just that Bad. Might as well let apac fill by Japan & ke teams only.
primmie apac goat he touched nongshim lmao
hibunbun [#157]เหมือนพ่อมึงไง
เป้นไบโพลาห์เหมือนพ่อมึงเลย วันนึงอยากโดนเยดตูด บางวันอยากเย็ดดูดลูกตัวเอง
Wts_mesole [#143]If you dont know talon make international too
I mean bro they almost beat t1
i am talking about the team talon played against not talon it self !!
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