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GalaxyBarz

Game changers is not for "Women only" its for "exclusively for marginalized genders" this includes trans people, non-binary people and so on.

I'm tired of seeing posts like "why is this allowed", just read please.

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They know they just don't care lol

(I'm not transphobic just for clarity)

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well said

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i was excepting some PoS will come and write this shit ....... well i wasn't wrong lol ..... we need a VCTW

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GalaxyBarz

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what does the first part of your reply mean? are you calling me a piece of shit for simply reiterating the point of game changers?

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I don't understand the problem people have with GC
Like you know who can play, I know who can play, the players know who can play, Riot knows who can play
Then what are we complaining about

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crazy thing is some people say they have ''physical'' advantages like what?

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Denjisideals

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I love it when I have to turn into my favourite video game character and get teleported in game to run and gun myself
Truly a very hard experience 😞

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?

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I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

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brainless + ignorant

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Convoy

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he is not trans afaik

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GalaxyBarz

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women can't have girlfriends? and what about femboys, they are men that look more "woman like" are they still men?

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crazy thing is none of those things make anyone less non binary 🤯🤯🤯, that's not how gender works <3

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Wezzaa

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Wait is non binary the neither one where they don’t identify as either I’m genuinely not knowledgeable on this stuff which probably makes it come off as worse

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yea thats how mental illness works and greed works,they have no real reason to play in gc they are just collecting paychecks cause they know nobody would pick them up in the real scene

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by disrespecting the fact that trans ppl and nb ppl exist and denying her gender youve made it so that she qualify for marginalized genders so she is allowed to play in GC LMAO.

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u really tought u did something lmao,u just proved how soft and backwards riot is,so ur saying these 2 men are so badly harassed because of their identity (that nobody can even see unless they wanna make it public) that they just have to play in a whole nother league thats really made for women,im really struggling to see what exactly is their reason to play,we know its made for women cause otherwise they wouldnt really have any chance to get paid or get recognition if they competed with other men but what exactly is the disadvantage for these "non binary" people

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except GC isnt "really made for women" its marginalized groups/genders so youre literally proving the point you dont know the first thing about GC lol. and u continue to deny their identity it just further backs up that theyre marginalized bcos youre taking their physical appearance ONLY into account LMAO ur literally proving me right its ok

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yea u can read those riot pr lines since they are a very progressive company and want to appeal to those people but it is basically a women's league and that is what people view it as and that is the purpose it serves first,i would feel shameless being a whole man just inserting myself in to a women's league to get a job because im "non binary"

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except they dont?

"Fostering Mixed-Gender Competition:

We believe that mixed rosters are the future. Starting in the 2024 OFF//SEASON, Riot will be testing out some mixed-gender tournaments. This initiative will foster inclusivity and provide more opportunities for diverse talent to shine together."

https://valorantesports.com/en-GB/news/game-changers-2024-championship-expansion--new-mobility-policies

what youre saying is YOU dont understand the first thing about GC LOL

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so in the future mixed rosters will be able to compete in gc or they have to go to tier 2? U are not really saying anything else than that riot approves of this which we can already see,im saying its shameless towards women from these MEN

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ironically by disrespecting their gender identity you have made them qualified as a marginalized gender

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kingop3n

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LMAO I DIDNT EVEN CLOCK THIS THATS SO FUNNY IM USING THIS

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Yep. Like pretty understandable why some could be confused on this and might think there's some rule change or something. Ofc transphobia is transphobia, but genuinely asking shouldn't be considered transphobia imo.

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hypothetically if any ftm trans person competed theyd insist they were a man and should be disqualified which does crack me up a lil bit

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I don't think they would compete even if they were allowed tbh

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i understand, but you should also know that marginalized gender don't really exist in SEA (except like thailand) people don't really learn about it and being tought to be against it. Not saying it's acceptable but just realize that were probably 1-2 generations away from understanding it

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oh so the few that exist are being marginalized? so they qualify for the marginalized genders tourney?

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Samsat78

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Why not make this marginalized gender compete in male ascension then? Why must they compete with women?

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Al-Mawsil

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because the point of game changers is to give women and gays opportunity to show their skill and have a stage, as esports is straight male dominated.

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rtyu

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why does that matter,so men who are gay deserve to get put on a spotlight just cause they exist lol

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Nah, its just bc its more hard to they integrate a team.
You could say that "they need just to prove they are good", but for this, he needs a team, and after that, he needs another team that the players accept to work with they.

Not related to Val, but I was used to play football a lot, and there was 2 dudes at my school that was good defenders, but my commarades never allowed they to join, even when we was lacking defenders, because, according to they:
"Gay people is annoying as hell, doesnt matter if they are good, I dont want they close to me".

So its suck to get youserlf accepted in a male straight team.

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true

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Answering

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(I apologise for my bad English in advance)
My problem(?) with GC is it was supposed(marketed as) to be a safe place for less represented groups which aren't generally take up gaming from birth unlike boys i.e. girls, but now we have male who converted to female and get an opportunity to play in a special league.

Basically, boys generally lean towards gaming from start but girls don't and those who do aren't well recieved by the society(?), but boys who converted to female don't have to struggle through the same that girls do but still get to play in it

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kingop3n

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i hear what youre saying but regardless now theyre marginalized and they do struggle for a similar issue. toxicity

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mental illness needs treatment not reservation to compete with women
Riot should introduce new league for mentally aided people and these people compete in it

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kingop3n

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GC is a league for marginalized genders/groups. its not a womens league lets get that right first. if you dont understand its ok just dont comment on it. i hope you get past your 12th birthday dude and learn about the world

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Can i transform myself to girl and then participate in gc?

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moomoomoomeadows

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yeah if you want to be a girl we support you! gl with your transition!

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EUclearsNA

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those 2 guys didnt even transition, they just they dont identify as males, so all you have to say is ur non binary

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kingop3n

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https://x.com/punsandbunsgg/status/1623751574060433410

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kingop3n

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https://x.com/punsandbunsgg/status/1623751574060433410

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It's very nice of Riot to give a chance to people with mental illness to compete, yall just need to come to your sense

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Jinxypoo

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In EMEA and APAC nb people arent allowed to compete in gc so some people are just confused because they dont see it in their home region. Most of it is just transphobia though

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JSN

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I heard somewhere trans men arent allowed, but my source could have made that up. Anyone can verify?

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Conceit

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Yeah it's true, pretty fucked up tbh

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arent trans males (who are a marginalized whatever) not even allowed to compete?

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cxber

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tf