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#1
GalaxyBarz

Game changers is not for "Women only" its for "exclusively for marginalized genders" this includes trans people, non-binary people and so on.

I'm tired of seeing posts like "why is this allowed", just read please.

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They know they just don't care lol

(I'm not transphobic just for clarity)

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Abdul_Rahim
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AstroGalaxy [#2]

They know they just don't care lol

(I'm not transphobic just for clarity)

well said

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Denjisideals
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I don't understand the problem people have with GC
Like you know who can play, I know who can play, the players know who can play, Riot knows who can play
Then what are we complaining about

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crazy thing is some people say they have ''physical'' advantages like what?

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Minimalist [#5]

crazy thing is some people say they have ''physical'' advantages like what?

I love it when I have to turn into my favourite video game character and get teleported in game to run and gun myself
Truly a very hard experience 😞

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I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

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hypothetically if any ftm trans person competed theyd insist they were a man and should be disqualified which does crack me up a lil bit

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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

brainless + ignorant

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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

he is not trans afaik

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GalaxyBarz
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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

women can't have girlfriends? and what about femboys, they are men that look more "woman like" are they still men?

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i understand, but you should also know that marginalized gender don't really exist in SEA (except like thailand) people don't really learn about it and being tought to be against it. Not saying it's acceptable but just realize that were probably 1-2 generations away from understanding it

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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

crazy thing is none of those things make anyone less non binary 🤯🤯🤯, that's not how gender works <3

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moomoomoomeadows [#8]

hypothetically if any ftm trans person competed theyd insist they were a man and should be disqualified which does crack me up a lil bit

I don't think they would compete even if they were allowed tbh

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fernz [#13]

crazy thing is none of those things make anyone less non binary 🤯🤯🤯, that's not how gender works <3

Wait is non binary the neither one where they don’t identify as either I’m genuinely not knowledgeable on this stuff which probably makes it come off as worse

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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

ironically by disrespecting their gender identity you have made them qualified as a marginalized gender

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Yoorake [#12]

i understand, but you should also know that marginalized gender don't really exist in SEA (except like thailand) people don't really learn about it and being tought to be against it. Not saying it's acceptable but just realize that were probably 1-2 generations away from understanding it

oh so the few that exist are being marginalized? so they qualify for the marginalized genders tourney?

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Why not make this marginalized gender compete in male ascension then? Why must they compete with women?

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Answering
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(I apologise for my bad English in advance)
My problem(?) with GC is it was supposed(marketed as) to be a safe place for less represented groups which aren't generally take up gaming from birth unlike boys i.e. girls, but now we have male who converted to female and get an opportunity to play in a special league.

Basically, boys generally lean towards gaming from start but girls don't and those who do aren't well recieved by the society(?), but boys who converted to female don't have to struggle through the same that girls do but still get to play in it

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Samsat78 [#18]

Why not make this marginalized gender compete in male ascension then? Why must they compete with women?

because the point of game changers is to give women and gays opportunity to show their skill and have a stage, as esports is straight male dominated.

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Can i transform myself to girl and then participate in gc?

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Pradeep12 [#21]

Can i transform myself to girl and then participate in gc?

yeah if you want to be a girl we support you! gl with your transition!

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EUclearsNA
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Pradeep12 [#21]

Can i transform myself to girl and then participate in gc?

those 2 guys didnt even transition, they just they dont identify as males, so all you have to say is ur non binary

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Al-Mawsil [#20]

because the point of game changers is to give women and gays opportunity to show their skill and have a stage, as esports is straight male dominated.

why does that matter,so men who are gay deserve to get put on a spotlight just cause they exist lol

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moomoomoomeadows [#16]

ironically by disrespecting their gender identity you have made them qualified as a marginalized gender

LMAO I DIDNT EVEN CLOCK THIS THATS SO FUNNY IM USING THIS

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In EMEA and APAC nb people arent allowed to compete in gc so some people are just confused because they dont see it in their home region. Most of it is just transphobia though

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kingop3n
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EUclearsNA [#23]

those 2 guys didnt even transition, they just they dont identify as males, so all you have to say is ur non binary

https://x.com/punsandbunsgg/status/1623751574060433410

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kingop3n
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Pradeep12 [#21]

Can i transform myself to girl and then participate in gc?

https://x.com/punsandbunsgg/status/1623751574060433410

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Wezzaa [#7]

I understand the GC part and it’s fair enough however I feel that Starbound and evv make it a bit to obvious like I’m not transphobic or whatever but star bound looks, talks and acts like a dude and has a gf

Yep. Like pretty understandable why some could be confused on this and might think there's some rule change or something. Ofc transphobia is transphobia, but genuinely asking shouldn't be considered transphobia imo.

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Answering [#19]

(I apologise for my bad English in advance)
My problem(?) with GC is it was supposed(marketed as) to be a safe place for less represented groups which aren't generally take up gaming from birth unlike boys i.e. girls, but now we have male who converted to female and get an opportunity to play in a special league.

Basically, boys generally lean towards gaming from start but girls don't and those who do aren't well recieved by the society(?), but boys who converted to female don't have to struggle through the same that girls do but still get to play in it

i hear what youre saying but regardless now theyre marginalized and they do struggle for a similar issue. toxicity

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kingop3n [#30]

i hear what youre saying but regardless now theyre marginalized and they do struggle for a similar issue. toxicity

mental illness needs treatment not reservation to compete with women
Riot should introduce new league for mentally aided people and these people compete in it

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loapoarg [#31]

mental illness needs treatment not reservation to compete with women
Riot should introduce new league for mentally aided people and these people compete in it

GC is a league for marginalized genders/groups. its not a womens league lets get that right first. if you dont understand its ok just dont comment on it. i hope you get past your 12th birthday dude and learn about the world

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JSN
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I heard somewhere trans men arent allowed, but my source could have made that up. Anyone can verify?

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Minimalist [#5]

crazy thing is some people say they have ''physical'' advantages like what?

?

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Conceit
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JSN [#33]

I heard somewhere trans men arent allowed, but my source could have made that up. Anyone can verify?

Yeah it's true, pretty fucked up tbh

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smthlikeyou11
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arent trans males (who are a marginalized whatever) not even allowed to compete?

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rtyu [#24]

why does that matter,so men who are gay deserve to get put on a spotlight just cause they exist lol

Nah, its just bc its more hard to they integrate a team.
You could say that "they need just to prove they are good", but for this, he needs a team, and after that, he needs another team that the players accept to work with they.

Not related to Val, but I was used to play football a lot, and there was 2 dudes at my school that was good defenders, but my commarades never allowed they to join, even when we was lacking defenders, because, according to they:
"Gay people is annoying as hell, doesnt matter if they are good, I dont want they close to me".

So its suck to get youserlf accepted in a male straight team.

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cxber
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tf

#39
rtyu
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Prasinos [#37]

Nah, its just bc its more hard to they integrate a team.
You could say that "they need just to prove they are good", but for this, he needs a team, and after that, he needs another team that the players accept to work with they.

Not related to Val, but I was used to play football a lot, and there was 2 dudes at my school that was good defenders, but my commarades never allowed they to join, even when we was lacking defenders, because, according to they:
"Gay people is annoying as hell, doesnt matter if they are good, I dont want they close to me".

So its suck to get youserlf accepted in a male straight team.

true

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EUclearsNA
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kingop3n [#32]

GC is a league for marginalized genders/groups. its not a womens league lets get that right first. if you dont understand its ok just dont comment on it. i hope you get past your 12th birthday dude and learn about the world

yeah the year is 2028 and GC is full of non binary players (men who couldn't get in to t2 valorant)

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EUclearsNA [#40]

yeah the year is 2028 and GC is full of non binary players (men who couldn't get in to t2 valorant)

vct dominating by man and also gc gonna dominating by those non, no place for women to shine? no way :((((

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gogomaster
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we need cock inspection

#43
kingop3n
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straybullet [#41]

vct dominating by man and also gc gonna dominating by those non, no place for women to shine? no way :((((

must suck to not be able to think critically

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kingop3n
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EUclearsNA [#40]

yeah the year is 2028 and GC is full of non binary players (men who couldn't get in to t2 valorant)

my guy made a burner account to be a cunt

#45
SuperRoss
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yup, i clicked

#46
flanador
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Everytime someone makes a thread like this, it ends up turning into a shitfest. Inb4 its nuked

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Minimalist [#5]

crazy thing is some people say they have ''physical'' advantages like what?

Some of these GC players are aimers as seen in the Spotlight Offseason Tournament and even in Day 1 of this event. But there is definitely advantages in the calling from Tier 1 to GC. Mimi even said that Valyn calls things faster in the G2 Chozen run video. There is probably some underlying factors like confidence and the fast micro calls which create a world of difference in a game like Valorant

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flanador [#46]

Everytime someone makes a thread like this, it ends up turning into a shitfest. Inb4 its nuked

mods are sleeping again letting this thread last for 3 hours. the OPs intention is obviously there, but no one is surprised that it's fallen apart like this.

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midzera
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moomoomoomeadows [#8]

hypothetically if any ftm trans person competed theyd insist they were a man and should be disqualified which does crack me up a lil bit

This hypothetical is extremely rare to begin with, but I doubt a FTM would be disallowed into GC because at the end of the day, they are a marginalised gender group which would fall in line with Riot's ethos on GC.

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midzera
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Samsat78 [#18]

Why not make this marginalized gender compete in male ascension then? Why must they compete with women?

For one thing, it's a huge PR nightmare for any org since it's always gonna be a question of "Why?" Plenty of guys in high radiant you can pick up and you got a NB/Trans person. The majority of fans in Valorant are guys so it's easiest to relate to a guy. That's why some nonbinary/trans players play in GC. Who knows, maybe this thought could change but as of now, most players who can't make it into Tier 1/2 will opt for GC because of the salary

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the amount of woke people on this website holy shit

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