I have a free hour and am bored out of my mind, tell me whatever you want and ill attempt to engage with it
What if riot introduced a new method of determining the last team from every region to go to champions. Like a new LCQ of sorts.
They will determine this by having an irl death match where every coach on the competing teams will use nerf guns. Whoevers coach wins takes the team to champs.
I think this is a good idea, what about you?
froggy_lol [#3]What if riot introduced a new method of determining the last team from every region to go to champions. Like a new LCQ of sorts.
They will determine this by having an irl death match where every coach on the competing teams will use nerf guns. Whoevers coach wins takes the team to champs.
I think this is a good idea, what about you?
ex sen coach "Don Sykko" would've loved this idea
Warlordwibz [#2]
- Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
- Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/Bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.
froggy_lol [#3]What if riot introduced a new method of determining the last team from every region to go to champions. Like a new LCQ of sorts.
They will determine this by having an irl death match where every coach on the competing teams will use nerf guns. Whoevers coach wins takes the team to champs.
I think this is a good idea, what about you?
4/10. If its a deathmatch why just use nerf guns
They should bring back LCQ for qualification to champs, and in top of that ascension finished before LCQ so the winner can participate in the LCQ as wild card. I dont really mind with the current championship points system, but what i suggest bring higher stakes and it would be crazy if the ascension winner winning the whole LCQ.
saynotoherpes [#9]4/10. If its a deathmatch why just use nerf guns
So I should build on the idea by giving the coaches actual guns
We would have to do every LCQ in the United States though
localkoolkid [#6]Zyppan, Fit1nho, Kieko, and Patitek are the most underrated players in EMEA (Maybe the whole game, because EMEA is often underrated as is)
Also Demon1 was a one season wonder (Still will be fine but not a worlds player)
All the regional leagues ( P, C, A, E) should have each team playing each other in every split and the import rule should be revised to have a max of two imports on team and not just one , keeping a Swiss stage in masters when there are only 8 teams to play is actually kinda shit , maybe in the masters for playoffs rather than double elim keep it single elim but make it BO5 Every match
1.) Winning champs doesnt make you a better player/harder than winning a masters. Champs is just more important to win.
2.) People who say X team wouldve won Y event if not for Z are genuinely some of the stupidest people alive
3.) Just because a pro player gives an opinion on something doesnt mean they are more correct than someone. Too many times I will argue something and have evidence support said argument and then someone will say “ah but tenz said-“ with no other evidence to back up their claim
4.) Teams that win more recently are at higher peaks than teams that won in the past and should be treated as the better team in discussion
5.) Ascent is a 4/10 map and shouldve been removed by now
saynotoherpes [#10]2/10. Abstain from spending money on this game
???
Im talking about how valo shop is shit and should be changed and you rate something else
Shit thread, dont ever rate anything pls
WatsomN [#13]They should bring back LCQ for qualification to champs, and in top of that ascension finished before LCQ so the winner can participate in the LCQ as wild card. I dont really mind with the current championship points system, but what i suggest bring higher stakes and it would be crazy if the ascension winner winning the whole LCQ.
6/10. Cool idea on paper as bringing back lcq would be really fun, but I do think it somewhat fucks over more consistently good teams throughout the year (maybe give those with more champ points a higher seed?). adding ascension teams seems like a mess logistically though that would need major upheavals to the format to work
BarbaraCult [#19]1.) Winning champs doesnt make you a better player/harder than winning a masters. Champs is just more important to win.
2.) People who say X team wouldve won Y event if not for Z are genuinely some of the stupidest people alive
3.) Just because a pro player gives an opinion on something doesnt mean they are more correct than someone. Too many times I will argue something and have evidence support said argument and then someone will say “ah but tenz said-“ with no other evidence to back up their claim
4.) Teams that win more recently are at higher peaks than teams that won in the past and should be treated as the better team in discussion
5.) Ascent is a 4/10 map and shouldve been removed by now
1) Definitely agreeable
2) Definitely cause if u gotta show up when it matters highly and not when stars align
3) Thank God someone knows how these fans dick ride pros
4) Hmm not sure abt that it's debatable i think
5) Yo for real lame ass map atleast make some changes in it, everytime I see someone play on this I puke 🤢🤢
You got some pretty W takes didn't knew vlr had smart guys as well
saynotoherpes [#15]
- 7/10. I agree with those players being some of the most underrated in the game (besides kieko) but I think SEA also has a trove of underrated, cracked talent
- 0/10. Dont shittalk goat !
I was not shit talking Ange1?
Kirya [#21]???
Im talking about how valo shop is shit and should be changed and you rate something else
Shit thread, dont ever rate anything pls
should've posted your femboy feet pictures if you wanted a good score
froggy_lol [#25]should've posted your femboy feet pictures if you wanted a good score
Nuh uh
I wanted him to rate my actual take and not talk about how I should use my money(i didnt even mention that)
KClaw [#18]All the regional leagues ( P, C, A, E) should have each team playing each other in every split and the import rule should be revised to have a max of two imports on team and not just one , keeping a Swiss stage in masters when there are only 8 teams to play is actually kinda shit , maybe in the masters for playoffs rather than double elim keep it single elim but make it BO5 Every match
2/10. Horrible with a single redeeming quality, I want to avoid import talent eating regions and the idea of single elim bo5 sounds so ass, and it isnt feasible for each to team to play eachother ever split if riot wants to avoid schedule overlap and player fatigue. only part I agree with is that there should be more teams going to each tournament and playing against eachother
Each league should have atleast 14 teams where in 4 are from ascension and constantly rotate according to performances, while riot should also try bringing back the 2 year contract for ascension winner rule one year isn't worth it for any org and then don't wanna invest in a team in valo for T2, if some day 14 ain't good for number reasons then make it 16 where riot makes two more teams permanent contract and keeps four from ascension, this makes it better competition
saynotoherpes [#27]2/10. Horrible with a single redeeming quality, I want to avoid import talent eating regions and the idea of single elim bo5 sounds so ass, and it isnt feasible for each to team to play eachother ever split if riot wants to avoid schedule overlap and player fatigue. only part I agree with is that there should be more teams going to each tournament and playing against eachother
I just wanted to replicate what worlds is doing (lol) also the import thing is cause some regions have much more talent and thus they all don't get a good chance due to less import slots , making it two import is just sufficient and does not harm any one
BarbaraCult [#19]1.) Winning champs doesnt make you a better player/harder than winning a masters. Champs is just more important to win.
2.) People who say X team wouldve won Y event if not for Z are genuinely some of the stupidest people alive
3.) Just because a pro player gives an opinion on something doesnt mean they are more correct than someone. Too many times I will argue something and have evidence support said argument and then someone will say “ah but tenz said-“ with no other evidence to back up their claim
4.) Teams that win more recently are at higher peaks than teams that won in the past and should be treated as the better team in discussion
5.) Ascent is a 4/10 map and shouldve been removed by now
Laundry [#20]1) Skibidi Toilet actually has some merit and meaning behind it but because it hit the wrong audience it’s lost it’s message
2) Clove is not better than Omen in ranked
Kirya [#21]???
Im talking about how valo shop is shit and should be changed and you rate something else
Shit thread, dont ever rate anything pls
it doesnt matter how good the shop is if you dont spend money, stop caring about it and free yourself from worldly desires
Anzaldinho [#33]china and pacific should be merged into one big region called asia just like how it is in cs2
that way we can send our absolute best to internationals and all regions will improve rapidly alongside each other and the fraudulent teams won't fluke their way into tournaments
sadly not possible to merge oceania with it because of obvious logistical issues
maybe we can give oceania some slots for a greater asia lan finals just like rmrs in cs2
KClaw [#28]Each league should have atleast 14 teams where in 4 are from ascension and constantly rotate according to performances, while riot should also try bringing back the 2 year contract for ascension winner rule one year isn't worth it for any org and then don't wanna invest in a team in valo for T2, if some day 14 ain't good for number reasons then make it 16 where riot makes two more teams permanent contract and keeps four from ascension, this makes it better competition
8/10. Significantly better that your previous take, ascension teams are absolutely in a bad spot as they are already cash strapped without the accumulation of stipend and skin revenue, yet are expected to be the most competitive? also adding more slots for players in t1 is just the right thing to as it feels too small currently. only thing that I disagree with is the constant rotation, riot (should have) vetted their core orgs for constant investment and financial stability and forcing them out over a weak performance is incredibly toxic for the scene
Anzaldinho [#33]china and pacific should be merged into one big region called asia just like how it is in cs2
that way we can send our absolute best to internationals and all regions will improve rapidly alongside each other and the fraudulent teams won't fluke their way into tournaments
1/10. Logistical hell and sub-regions would have major issues when playing against eachother due to the government enforced china-exclusive client. you also have to remember that riot is a chinese company and is in their best interest to have an isolated china region to develop and market talent. this also snubs whatever region is weaker as it is proven that teams and regions improve after going to a lan
cloudberry [#36]My take on bubbly drinks: if you like carbon dioxide so much stop breathing our oxygen
8/10. Carbonation almost always sucks and sparkling water is an affront to man
saynotoherpes [#37]1/10. Logistical hell and sub-regions would have major issues when playing against eachother due to the government enforced china-exclusive client. you also have to remember that riot is a chinese company and is in their best interest to have an isolated china region to develop and market talent. this also snubs whatever region is weaker as it is proven that teams and regions improve after going to a lan
imagine a world where china didn't exist........
or should i say
ccp
Anzaldinho [#39]imagine a world where china didn't exist........
or should i say
ccp
misread this, yeah the ccp is a fucking plight on modern society as they are trying to divide the chinese people and culture from the rest of the world for their own benefit
Warlordwibz [#2]
- Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
- Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/Bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.
Wouldnt work ping would be 100+
saynotoherpes [#41]brb going to buy an energy drink, any flavor suggestions? (i fw that ultra fantasy monster shit)
im drinking the ultra vice guava monster rn its so good
FrostTree187 [#44]international t2 tournaments sounds fun
7/10. Anything for riot to put more money in t2
dilla [#47]whichever team has the lowest avg placement (per region) over 2 seasons should be relegated
4/10. Prevents complacency but with how much of a shitshow t2 is currently it is equivalent to sentencing teams to death creating a very toxic culture. riot does have to be proactive with pruning orgs that are bad actors though
Hades_Loves_Rb [#50]my back hurts and i want to go back to sleep
2/10. Be like me and jacked on caffeine and painkillers
saynotoherpes [#52]2/10. Be like me and jacked on caffeine and painkillers
heinous grammar go end your life
CarnageBTC [#53]SMG GC >>> Xipto
10/10. Idk anything about current t2 but smg was so dominant last year that I would believe them to be better than the current apac berth
saynotoherpes [#48]I got reign sour gummy worm
the sour gummy worm has a weird aftertaste to me, but the rainbow sherbet and white gummy bear flavor are really good
saynotoherpes [#40]misread this, yeah the ccp is a fucking plight on modern society as they are trying to divide the chinese people and culture from the rest of the world for their own benefit
i agree
saynotoherpes [#55]10/10. Idk anything about current t2 but smg was so dominant last year that I would believe them to be better than the current apac berth
i mean xipto has 4 players from SMG but watching their games, makes me feel like they CAN shoot insanely well but sometimes they get caught off-guard so frequently ... they will get cooked by strat-heavy teams
Warlordwibz [#2]
- Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
- Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/Bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.
Bogota seems much more viable than mexico
froggy_lol [#3]What if riot introduced a new method of determining the last team from every region to go to champions. Like a new LCQ of sorts.
They will determine this by having an irl death match where every coach on the competing teams will use nerf guns. Whoevers coach wins takes the team to champs.
I think this is a good idea, what about you?
i hate frogs
Esports fans are the worst customer to deal with and hence serve limited if not long-run-negative value for riot.
Vlr actually don't care about tier 2 they only care when it's about to be merged.
Japan isn't as bad as what people make them out to be.
When talking about franchising and the scene as a whole vlr only consider things 90% if not purely from competitive perspective which limits their viewpoint hence the flaw in their line of thinking(which leads back to point number 1) , in reality there's many factors to consider.
Riot SUCKS at marketing, especially in regions that are unfamiliar with gaming, even in places that are familiarwith gaming they remained mediocre or even sucked worse than unfamiliar ones since they should've had the easier job . Kohei ( head of riot jp) looked like a god when you compare jp to other regions.
froggy_lol [#65]You shouldn’t hate yourself, learn to appreciate yourself
i am sponsored by insects
Warlordwibz [#2]
- Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
- Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/Bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.
1/ This not how internet cable works, https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Sao%20Paulo you will have a better ping in Miami than in Mexico (or even in Columbia)
2/ Restructure MENA+SA+CA and making them one region could be only a T1 region with how many people you put in there
IonlywatchvcjXD [#64]
Esports fans are the worst customer to deal with and hence serve limited if not long-run-negative value for riot.
Vlr actually don't care about tier 2 they only care when it's about to be merged.
Japan isn't as bad as what people make them out to be.
When talking about franchising and the scene as a whole vlr only consider things 90% if not purely from competitive perspective which limits their viewpoint hence the flaw in their line of thinking(which leads back to point number 1) , in reality there's many factors to consider.
Riot SUCKS at marketing, especially in regions that are unfamiliar with gaming, even in places that are familiarwith gaming they remained mediocre or even sucked worse than unfamiliar ones since they should've had the easier job . Kohei ( head of riot jp) looked like a god when you compare jp to other regions.
2/ But I'm caring about tier 3 ._.
Elso [#62]Rocket League has the dumbest playerbase
4/10. It is incredibly appealing to a mainstream audience and is great for getting people in to esports with how simple it is. That simplicity is also the big reason why it kinda sucks for a dedicated viewer as the skill ceiling has been hit. This doesn't change the fact however that it is valid enough in my eyes
Anguibok [#72]2/ But I'm caring about tier 3 ._.
I mean I do observe tier 3 ( premier contender division, offline tournaments , high school tournaments) its just tier 2 watchers are the minority let alone tier 3, i only know people from emea who usually do that because it's listed on vlr, I had to search any japanese tournaments that's not t2 or premier thorugh twitter 😅 ,we are the minority of the minority here 😂😂
IonlywatchvcjXD [#64]
Esports fans are the worst customer to deal with and hence serve limited if not long-run-negative value for riot.
Vlr actually don't care about tier 2 they only care when it's about to be merged.
Japan isn't as bad as what people make them out to be.
When talking about franchising and the scene as a whole vlr only consider things 90% if not purely from competitive perspective which limits their viewpoint hence the flaw in their line of thinking(which leads back to point number 1) , in reality there's many factors to consider.
Riot SUCKS at marketing, especially in regions that are unfamiliar with gaming, even in places that are familiarwith gaming they remained mediocre or even sucked worse than unfamiliar ones since they should've had the easier job . Kohei ( head of riot jp) looked like a god when you compare jp to other regions.
Lyxium [#76]CS2 have better circuit in esports than VALORANT?
(Just curious, not saying VALORANT have bad esports scene)
0/10. I don't watch any cs but I have an annoying friend who yaps about it all the time so I am rating this a 0/10 to reflect my opinions of him
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#78]ANGE1 is actually an above average aimer his positioning just sucks and he gets killed with util in hand more often than not
8/10. I have seen enough ange1 life games to know he has the mechanics, he is just exerting almost everything in calling causing him to get caught out
saynotoherpes [#80]8/10. I have seen enough ange1 life games to know he has the mechanics, he is just exerting almost everything in calling causing him to get caught out
To expand on this I think no t1 igl has truly bad mechanics, it's just how they work around calling and micro while trying to focus on their cordshair. Example of this is boasters insane clutch rate as once he doesn't have a team to call around he looks significantly better individually
dilla [#57]the sour gummy worm has a weird aftertaste to me, but the rainbow sherbet and white gummy bear flavor are really good
The aftertaste isn't nearly as aggressive compared to other drinks loaded with more than 200 mg of natural caffeine and the local store I pick up my energy drinks from enver has any flavor than it, I would honestly love to try them though as it's one of the few flavors that can match some of monsters best
saynotoherpes [#73]4/10. It is incredibly appealing to a mainstream audience and is great for getting people in to esports with how simple it is. That simplicity is also the big reason why it kinda sucks for a dedicated viewer as the skill ceiling has been hit. This doesn't change the fact however that it is valid enough in my eyes
I meant playerbase not esports mb.
saynotoherpes [#32]it doesnt matter how good the shop is if you dont spend money, stop caring about it and free yourself from worldly desires
Get your money up bro
Kirya [#4]Change valo shop
The shop is straight ass, I don’t want to wait a decade for one skin
10/10
saynotoherpes [#77]
- 8/10. Emphasis on the word fan here, esports is a negative money wise as there is no culture of monetization around it. But esports as a whole isn't flawed because it exists more as a marketing exercise for the game
- 6/10. Kinda for na and eu, but under represented regions such as LATAM, Brazil, Japan, and sea do have people the genuinely care about t2 as its really the only way they can see a majority of their region play.
- 5/10. Japan is better than some people think of but really isn't great (maybe I am one of the ill-informed)
- 9/10. Vlr users are dumbasses
- 6/10. Riot isn't great at this but has incredible outreach in growing regions that other games don't have (watching sea potentially be a big name contender in any esports is something awesome)
I'll combine point 1 and 4 since we're almost on the same page now 😂 and i just wanna add some more points. I definitely agree that riot understands that esports are just markering tool and not something to find profit at, but they know they can't just throw money into a bottomless pit that's why they need to make changes/sacrifices. My frustration with vlr is they can't seem to or refuse understand this concept ( I'm referring to the bolded words)
On the contrary I actually think eu fans discuss their t2 scene the most out of all 4 regions. But you have a point tho I might be wrong about this.
The reason I say this is people make it out as if japan has never made improvements at all where they actually have been but people are just being ignorant. While I do think they are far from great( if I'm not wrong t2 jp sucks at attacking), it's not the worst of the worst is what I'm trying to say 😅
I take that back, it's still too early to say, riots I cannot determine how riot wants to position their games yet😅.
St0rm1820 [#90]EG assuming they get yay and sym will reach as many or more international top 4's than any other America's superteam. (No cope 100%)
Remind me what the roster would be again? (Derek nature supa yay sym?)
saynotoherpes [#88]Yeah my money is up because I'm done buying valorant skins
Your money can be up simultaneously while you buy valo skins
reaper_rega08 [#93]PRX should drop Jingg because he is a one dimensional player and doesn't have the mechanics like he used to.
10/10. Fax, spit yo shit brother
Whysoseriousss [#95]We should name hurricanes and natural disasters by name of oil company ceo's or owners
7/10. Good concept but instead the should focus on the real evil, paycheck thieves in vct (the mibr org)
AfterGlow22 [#99]Sayf will fail as an igl (not my take, just a famous one)
6/10. From what I have seen and heard from his days of beefing with redgar, sayf has always had ideas of how to play the game and his constant requests to be moved on a more cerebral role also reflects that. My only concern comes not from the quality of his calls but instead on his ability to communicate them to his team, esp considering how weak less' english is
saynotoherpes [#100]6/10. From what I have seen and heard from his days of beefing with redgar, sayf has always had ideas of how to play the game and his constant requests to be moved on a more cerebral role also reflects that. My only concern comes not from the quality of his calls but instead on his ability to communicate them to his team, esp considering how weak less' english is
I do also believe his production will plummet but that isnt a big concern for me due to just how stacked the team is
saynotoherpes [#81]To expand on this I think no t1 igl has truly bad mechanics, it's just how they work around calling and micro while trying to focus on their cordshair. Example of this is boasters insane clutch rate as once he doesn't have a team to call around he looks significantly better individually
Actually watching fns aim in sudden moments is like bursting cracker near a dog . When he knows what's going on , he aims decently but when someone comes unexpectedly his aim go panicky diamond level .
ihatewestjett [#103]Both NRG and KOI share the same fanbase rooting for those shit orgs
5/10. Only similarity are the fans being shit, nrg has been a really good org with a strong legacy of supporting players and dropping fat bags, rouge/koi on the other hand is a genuine shit org. koi fans suck for liking the org and being sp*nish while nrg fans suck because dort is one of them