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thoughts?? https://twitter.com/LotharHS/status/182

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#2
AstroGalaxy
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dude lothar needs to suck a fucking cock like jesus christ

but g2 kinda troll just to do no damage to lev

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flnnss
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everything this guy says is ragebait, he's a fucking idiot

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jiayou0813
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Nah, I hard disagree with this take. G2 has a justified reason for doing this, so Riot has no place to decide how players approach a round and force them to give eco frags if they don't want to (unless they want to begin dictating how rounds are played). It's not like G2 threw a gun round where they had a good chance of winning, it's classic vs guns on 2nd round and denying kills for Lev. It's not that serious.

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Nah Lothar is tweaking bro lol . He's just trying to rage bait or something

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flinskyy
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its a fking bait

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Ullyr
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jiayou0813 [#4]

Nah, I hard disagree with this take. G2 has a justified reason for doing this, so Riot has no place to decide how players approach a round and force them to give eco frags if they don't want to (unless they want to begin dictating how rounds are played). It's not like G2 threw a gun round where they had a good chance of winning, it's classic vs guns on 2nd round and denying kills for Lev. It's not that serious.

Yeah idk how he saying g2 throwing. They legit think this is a viable strat. Riot design the map so If they didn't intend it they would patch it.

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Diebs
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you should learn how to bait from lothar ngl

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SomeoneLikeU
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Bro what, I was cheering for LEV but that is a strat people like sea gates and sliggy were talking about how it’s an amazing stray for full saves on abyss. He is so mad that G2 knows one of the best ways to deny the opponent an advantage being ult orbs. Hope G2 doesn’t get fined for this.

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Dorszlol20
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W bait, NA frogs on this site should learn from him

#11
catNmouse
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he’s overreacting but g2 should’ve just done some damage

#12
geospliced
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Lothar should become a vlr.gg baiter

#13
VinsmokeLaw
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One of the worst takes of all time imo

#14
Inort
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Bro is eligible for vlr.gg

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jiayou0813
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Ullyr [#7]

Yeah idk how he saying g2 throwing. They legit think this is a viable strat. Riot design the map so If they didn't intend it they would patch it.

By his "every round is winnable" logic, players should also stop dying to spike and try to defuse. Really weird take. Like you say, Riot designed the game this way, the players are just using what they've made.

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eeeeh take is fine if you spend 5 minute thinking about it and just look at how many ecos we have this year
(For people thinking its an optimal decision just consider if a team goes and snakebite + nades themselves on defense. After all you can deny 5 ult orbs, plant and money for kills for just 300 credits.)

but the conclusion is just insane xD
considering all the shit we saw that game there'd have to be a whole bunch of fines if we start fining bad decisions.

Also personally dont find it disrespectful. If you somehow come to the conclusion that you are that shit at ecos that youre better of just giving them a free round with 0 damage and 0 util used then go for it.

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If winning round 2 after loose round 1 is so hard that some team chose to throw to not even try to take a round and die from the bomb or suicide in Abyss to not give an orbe. Maybe Riot should nerf the snowball between round 1 and 2, if Riot dont want to see that anymore, just up the looser of round 1

#18
Barre
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Nah this guy is retarded

#19
Subwaywang
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flnnss [#3]

everything this guy says is ragebait, he's a fucking idiot

He's been doing it since he did Hearthstone

#20
Denjisideals
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Zekken actually ratio'd his ass

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Syx_
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jiayou0813 [#15]

By his "every round is winnable" logic, players should also stop dying to spike and try to defuse. Really weird take. Like you say, Riot designed the game this way, the players are just using what they've made.

"every round is winnable"

he makes me believe my plat aim could 1v5 heretics

#22
PP12123213123
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#EXILEG2FROMVCT

#23
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imo, the whole dying on eco is a boring meta, and shouldnt be in the game, whether its through the spike, or jumping off the map (somehow he doesnt agree the same conditions apply to dying to a spike which is dumb af).
but saying G2 is basically throwing, should get Dqed, disrespectful for the sport, is way too much.
Riot should do something, but this is none of the players fault.

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i11matic
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Holy what a regarded take

#25
aquaa018
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So, wait, we are criticizing a team for a feature riot put into the game??? and they are doing it so it doesn't help or affect the other team???? WOW. Lothar is such a fucking dumbass

#26
babysasuke
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Damn I really can't believe he said You’re unable to view this Post because this account owner limits who can view their Posts. Learn more

what a loser !

#27
funny_prank
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Bros just a vlrgg level baiter that gets paid 💀

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Denjisideals
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babysasuke [#26]

Damn I really can't believe he said You’re unable to view this Post because this account owner limits who can view their Posts. Learn more

what a loser !

Pretty sure you are blocked by him because I can see it

#29
dezzo
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silver 2 take tbh

#30
cloudberry
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NO WAY! A TEAM FINALLY DID THE ECO STRAT THAT'S SO FUNNY AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I've been waiting for a team to do this since the map came out ohhhh boyyyy

#31
MudKiko
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he is fucking retarded thats all

#32
meadows
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Denjisideals [#28]

Pretty sure you are blocked by him because I can see it

That was the joke

#33
akimb0_
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can someone tag boilin_cockroach and put lotharHS into vlr baiter's list as an honorable mention? cause i refuse to believe this is not engagement bait

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SanePath
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I disagree with the disrespectful, fined, yada yada take, like it’s not that serious bro.
But I do agree that G2 could’ve taken a different approach, like stacking a site or setting a trap for 1 kill etc, and then deciding to jump off depending on how it plays out, especially since they are already down 9-4 and eco rounds are technically still winnable.
But at the same time it’s perfectly fine for G2 to do what they did since they thought that was their most optimal play at the moment, so he has no right no fault them and should ironically respect the play they made.

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SanePath [#34]

I disagree with the disrespectful, fined, yada yada take, like it’s not that serious bro.
But I do agree that G2 could’ve taken a different approach, like stacking a site or setting a trap for 1 kill etc, and then deciding to jump off depending on how it plays out, especially since they are already down 9-4 and eco rounds are technically still winnable.
But at the same time it’s perfectly fine for G2 to do what they did since they thought that was their most optimal play at the moment, so he has no right no fault them and should ironically respect the play they made.

bruh the enemy has 5 vandals and had just won OT on icebox and you are down a few rounds with classics in hand I'd be jumping off the map too, no money for them, no ult orbs. LEV would be confused but not complaining that's a free round for them

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#35]

bruh the enemy has 5 vandals and had just won OT on icebox and you are down a few rounds with classics in hand I'd be jumping off the map too, no money for them, no ult orbs. LEV would be confused but not complaining that's a free round for them

I’ve already said my piece if you read it.

#37
CurryCooker
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to be fair, G2 has always had a boring playstyle so this did not change much.

#38
MrCrespito
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i haven’t seen the match but i think that if lev was in a snowball of winning like 5 rounds and almost full money then it’s okay to do that denying orbs for lev, but if lev didn’t have a lot of money then i think it’s trolling

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aexbigb0t
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SomeoneLikeU [#9]

Bro what, I was cheering for LEV but that is a strat people like sea gates and sliggy were talking about how it’s an amazing stray for full saves on abyss. He is so mad that G2 knows one of the best ways to deny the opponent an advantage being ult orbs. Hope G2 doesn’t get fined for this.

Why should they get fined, it wasn't mentioned in the rules and if riot were going to make a map like this then they should have seen this coming

#40
MrCrespito
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ah it was second round of 2nd half hahaha, in that case i think it’s okay, boring but good even for leviatan that didn’t lose shield and didn’t use any util

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M7mdA13
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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#35]

bruh the enemy has 5 vandals and had just won OT on icebox and you are down a few rounds with classics in hand I'd be jumping off the map too, no money for them, no ult orbs. LEV would be confused but not complaining that's a free round for them

but that's the point bro, instead of going into LEV's bonus and them having kept all their guns+armor. You gamble stack/ make a play and do some damage, making LEV's bonus easier for you by maybe knocking a couple of them down to a sherrif. or if the gamble doesn't work THEN jump off.

#42
g_torrance
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DRX please kick this guy out. How did you even think this was a good idea

#43
SnorlaxEnjoyer
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M7mdA13 [#41]

but that's the point bro, instead of going into LEV's bonus and them having kept all their guns+armor. You gamble stack/ make a play and do some damage, making LEV's bonus easier for you by maybe knocking a couple of them down to a sherrif. or if the gamble doesn't work THEN jump off.

sen fan being salty over G2 being funny, even though sen wasn't playing (but if this is satire oh well)

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M7mdA13
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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#43]

sen fan being salty over G2 being funny, even though sen wasn't playing (but if this is satire oh well)

how am i salty what?? I'm literally analyzing the play strategically, I didn't say fine them or anything lol they can do what they want

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Kalerx
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For me I just find it kinda boring G2 didnt even try it but Lothar going all in like this is no reason AHAHAHA

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