Where the hater now? My apologies China, you guy are good. They might win a Master next year
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China dont deserved 4 spot.
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uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
FPX will clear you guy the next game. Watch out
uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
Bilibili 🫵😂
uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
I mean, like
https://www.vlr.gg/318919/team-vitality-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/371285/team-vitality-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/371280/team-heretics-vs-team-vitality-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-ubsf
ALEISTER [#8]They still dont deserve 4 spots tho
We just saw them clear EMEA 2nd seed. You telling me America/Pacific/EMEA 5th seed would beat Trace?
notnormally [#11]We just saw them clear EMEA 2nd seed. You telling me America/Pacific/EMEA 5th seed would beat Trace?
Basic ass logic with that one cant be above average iq
ALEISTER [#12]Basic ass logic with that one cant be above average iq
Yeah, they should get EU's slots from 2-4, one team region anyways.
APAC is fun because it rely on nation rivalries, CN doesnt have it and maybe that a little bit too bad.
My only concern about China is I would have like a little bit more in the different team playing, having 10 CN team may be not good (I count only 10 because DRG was historically TW and WOL have a majority of TW-HK), I would like to have 1 branded HK team, 1 or 2 branded TW team, maybe even add a Mongolian team (Since they are closer to China and maybe it could be possible to find a way to let them play on China and reduce the ping), in some wet dream I would even like to have an OCE or an RU that have no representation team, but thats not realist.
Even among the remaining CN team, it could have a way to differentiate them geographically a little, China got 4 server, and this 4 server are located near the 4 biggest population basin in the 4 cardinal point :
- South server in Guangzhou : Pearl delta agglomeration
- West server in Chongqing : Sichuan basin
- East server in Nanjing : Yangtze River Delta Urban Agglomeration (Shanghai)
- North server in Tianjin : Beijin-Tianjin supra-agglomeration
Assign 1 team to each server that will have to help to detect new talents in each server, and in long term you can grow a good rivalries between thoose 4 teams. You can even rely on LoL team that got their own stadium if you want to push thing further, but that's not necessary.
ALEISTER [#16]if riot wasnt chinese they would only get 2 spots.
Sorry not sorry
China gets more esports viewership than all of Pacific, wtf are you on
Conceit [#10]I mean, like
https://www.vlr.gg/318919/team-vitality-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/371285/team-vitality-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/371280/team-heretics-vs-team-vitality-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-ubsf
"fluked their way through" bro can't read 😹
uwukitten [#25]come back to this when TH beats gen.g 🥱
Has nothing to do with what we're talking about but I certainly will ;)
ALEISTER [#16]if riot wasnt chinese they would only get 2 spots.
Sorry not sorry
Riot wasn't always owned by Tencent. The numbers from China made them Riot go Chinese, not the other way around lmao.
Dybala21 [#2]People who said this are clueless and doesn’t even watch CN games
Chill, the only won a match against a memea team
notnormally [#11]We just saw them clear EMEA 2nd seed. You telling me America/Pacific/EMEA 5th seed would beat Trace?
FUT, TH and fnatic all clear Vitality. Navi too lol
kaibe8 [#24]Way more than bronzil ever will.
what are you on lmao, they won a masters and a champions
Anguibok [#18]APAC is fun because it rely on nation rivalries, CN doesnt have it and maybe that a little bit too bad.
My only concern about China is I would have like a little bit more in the different team playing, having 10 CN team may be not good (I count only 10 because DRG was historically TW and WOL have a majority of TW-HK), I would like to have 1 branded HK team, 1 or 2 branded TW team, maybe even add a Mongolian team (Since they are closer to China and maybe it could be possible to find a way to let them play on China and reduce the ping), in some wet dream I would even like to have an OCE or an RU that have no representation team, but thats not realist.
Even among the remaining CN team, it could have a way to differentiate them geographically a little, China got 4 server, and this 4 server are located near the 4 biggest population basin in the 4 cardinal point :
- South server in Guangzhou : Pearl delta agglomeration
- West server in Chongqing : Sichuan basin
- East server in Nanjing : Yangtze River Delta Urban Agglomeration (Shanghai)
- North server in Tianjin : Beijin-Tianjin supra-agglomeration
Assign 1 team to each server that will have to help to detect new talents in each server, and in long term you can grow a good rivalries between thoose 4 teams. You can even rely on LoL team that got their own stadium if you want to push thing further, but that's not necessary.
nah you planned the entire thing out for riot lol
Azzelastia [#32]Chill, the only won a match against a memea team
this memea team went flawless except against fnatic who are among favourites to win the whole thing
uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
who lost to vitality three times XD
Anguibok [#18]APAC is fun because it rely on nation rivalries, CN doesnt have it and maybe that a little bit too bad.
My only concern about China is I would have like a little bit more in the different team playing, having 10 CN team may be not good (I count only 10 because DRG was historically TW and WOL have a majority of TW-HK), I would like to have 1 branded HK team, 1 or 2 branded TW team, maybe even add a Mongolian team (Since they are closer to China and maybe it could be possible to find a way to let them play on China and reduce the ping), in some wet dream I would even like to have an OCE or an RU that have no representation team, but thats not realist.
Even among the remaining CN team, it could have a way to differentiate them geographically a little, China got 4 server, and this 4 server are located near the 4 biggest population basin in the 4 cardinal point :
- South server in Guangzhou : Pearl delta agglomeration
- West server in Chongqing : Sichuan basin
- East server in Nanjing : Yangtze River Delta Urban Agglomeration (Shanghai)
- North server in Tianjin : Beijin-Tianjin supra-agglomeration
Assign 1 team to each server that will have to help to detect new talents in each server, and in long term you can grow a good rivalries between thoose 4 teams. You can even rely on LoL team that got their own stadium if you want to push thing further, but that's not necessary.
I would never add an aus team the talent pool is too little just like how I would never add an african team
KOMPOSTO [#34]what are you on lmao, they won a masters and a champions
? brazil won masters? when in 2050??
bladaaa [#38]nah you planned the entire thing out for riot lol
Would be my dreamjob to be honest :c
BarbaraCult [#44]I would never add an aus team the talent pool is too little just like how I would never add an african team
You have 3 player that play in China already, you definitely can have a team of 5 Aussie that is competitive in CN T1 :
Sentinel : autumn
Scrambler/initiator : Pl1xx
Deulist : Swerl
APAC is stack, and if we want an OCE team in APAC we will need to wait GE is out because South Asia now got a T1 league, not gonna happen before a while, meaning while for no season they are 3 AUS player in CN lel
notnormally [#11]We just saw them clear EMEA 2nd seed. You telling me America/Pacific/EMEA 5th seed would beat Trace?
Well EMEA's 3rd seed cleared CN's 2nd seed. What about that?
ALEISTER [#16]if riot wasnt chinese they would only get 2 spots.
Sorry not sorry
China is half the viewership in vct
reaper_rega08 [#49]Well EMEA's 3rd seed cleared CN's 2nd seed. What about that?
You are arguing at best they are on par which means both get 4 spots
charleser [#28]Dude actually lost and changed the topic
what is more proof that vitality beating heretics is a fluke than heretics beating one of the greatest teams of all time?
also the only game that mattered that vitality won was the upper bracket playoff game, in the first game they were playing with patitek despite scrimming with wo0t and the third game was a seeding match
can't expect vlr users to use their brain so I have to explain this 😔
Anguibok [#48]You have 3 player that play in China already, you definitely can have a team of 5 Aussie that is competitive in CN T1 :
Sentinel : autumn
Scrambler/initiator : Pl1xx
Deulist : SwerlAPAC is stack, and if we want an OCE team in APAC we will need to wait GE is out because South Asia now got a T1 league, not gonna happen before a while, meaning while for no season they are 3 AUS player in CN lel
Im sorry dude but that team isnt qualifying for anything
BarbaraCult [#40]this memea team went flawless except against fnatic who are among favourites to win the whole thing
Fraudnatic favourites 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
KOMPOSTO [#34]what are you on lmao, they won a masters and a champions
One team region on a good day, 0 team region right now
badvibrations [#29]Brazil = 1 Champions
China = 0
You only have Loud, if they are not good like rn, brazil has nothing
reaper_rega08 [#49]Well EMEA's 3rd seed cleared CN's 2nd seed. What about that?
“Cleared” is absolutely not the word you should be using there
“Scraped by” maybe
uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
The same VIT which defeated u thrice right
Luwwu [#51]these idiot chatters dont watch cn and j dismiss them as the worst region. soon cn will be on top and where will all u pathetic haters be. cant wait for fpx trace and edg to ruin all ur pickems
I will will be surprised if CN is gonna push one team through semis.
This is no hate but facts from valorant tournaments.
Luwwu [#51]these idiot chatters dont watch cn and j dismiss them as the worst region. soon cn will be on top and where will all u pathetic haters be. cant wait for fpx trace and edg to ruin all ur pickems
"on top" is a bit of a stretch
Better than EMEA yeah, but is that really such a hard hill to climb nowadays?
uwukitten [#54]what is more proof that vitality beating heretics is a fluke than heretics beating one of the greatest teams of all time?
also the only game that mattered that vitality won was the upper bracket playoff game, in the first game they were playing with patitek despite scrimming with wo0t and the third game was a seeding matchcan't expect vlr users to use their brain so I have to explain this 😔
Please shut the fuck up you're making all memea fans look bad
BarbaraCult [#55]Im sorry dude but that team isnt qualifying for anything
Autumn and Swerl are 2 really really good player in China, they can definitly make a top 4 in CN
kaibe8 [#60]You only have Loud, if they are not good like rn, brazil has nothing
And China never had shit. Your point?
BarbaraCult [#40]this memea team went flawless except against fnatic who are among favourites to win the whole thing
remind me what team got 4-0 against BLG. It wasnt EMEA team.
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
No way LMAO
Anguibok [#76]Autumn and Swerl are 2 really really good player in China, they can definitly make a top 4 in CN
well edg, fpx, te are gonna be on top. that leaves a fourth spot, with competition of jdg and blg. if you think 2 good players (autumn is second in fpx, while swerl is first in nova) with 1 decent member in pl1xx plus two people who havent been able to play at a tier 1 stage are gonna beat jdg/blg then your kinda crazy with it.
HUMANITYGONE [#79]remind me what team got 4-0 against BLG. It wasnt EMEA team.
NNNRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
HUMANITYGONE [#79]remind me what team got 4-0 against BLG. It wasnt EMEA team.
F EN ESS ARE YUU OKEHH?
BarbaraCult [#81]well edg, fpx, te are gonna be on top. that leaves a fourth spot, with competition of jdg and blg. if you think 2 good players (autumn is second in fpx, while swerl is first in nova) with 1 decent member in pl1xx plus two people who havent been able to play at a tier 1 stage are gonna beat jdg/blg then your kinda crazy with it.
It will depend of your last 2 pick up, if you find 2 player matching the average of CN team, Swerl is really carry this team almost all alone, and Automn is impressive, BLG level isnt that high
KOMPOSTO [#75]sacy is from where
????? individual members is how we count trophies?? not the org???????/
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
your trolling
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
nice bait try harder next time
Anguibok [#84]It will depend of your last 2 pick up, if you find 2 player matching the average of CN team, Swerl is really carry this team almost all alone, and Automn is impressive, BLG level isnt that high
swerl is so good in china.His chinese is also fluent and it makes him able to chat w his mates
badvibrations [#21]China doesn't deserve a separate league
The population and economy and riot's daddy is tencent.
U BRAZILLIAN FORGOT WHAT U HAVE MET IN CROSSFIRE???
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
If riot wants they can make as many regions as want but still the same schedule issue
And yes china deserves a region i wouldnt replace it with SA for sure
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao [#43]VCT CN HAS THE MOST UP-AND-COMING AND YOUNG SUPERSTARS.
YET Y'ALL DON'T WATCH VCT CN, THAT'S HOW U DON'T KNOW THAT
NOW u can start to watch some teams because it is a region similar to APAC,the bottom teams really dont deserve to win.
The time is suitable for u as well.
aspassonjiezounb [#90]The population and economy and riot's daddy is tencent.
U BRAZILLIAN FORGOT WHAT U HAVE MET IN CROSSFIRE???
This is a Valorant forum
Selfim [#74]Please shut the fuck up you're making all memea fans look bad
flag + flair, f0t is the only thing embarrassing emea
SAMPV6 [#56]China wins 1 game vs a mid team and suddenly they deserve it all
hope prx crashes out of groups
badvibrations [#21]China doesn't deserve a separate league
brazil is shit and getting worse and worse while cn is on the rise. COPE
Luwwu [#99]brazil is shit and getting worse and worse while cn is on the rise. COPE
Talk when you win something
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
Lets be honest, how you want a 12 team of SA, Brazil struggles to have 3 competitive team and is oversatured, and may even need to be downsided at the level of TR, LAS is ok but you can't add one more, okay thats true you can add 1 or 2 LAN team (Mexico and 6 Bolivarian country), but 7 team is really the max of the max SA can have.
Same for NA, LoL that is a bigger game, can't even have 10 viable team (I'm not even talking about competitive, I'm talking about viable), they gonna be reduced to 7 team next year.
14 may be is the maximum America can have, my personal wet dream is to go to 16 team for every region, with 6 ascended team, with stage 1 team divided in 8 team in south playing in Sao Paulo, and north group still played in LA (If they are 9 team, the partner team that finish last will have to play in south next year, giving stakes to bottom ranking)
Shankerdoodle [#78]i feel like south america should of got a region instead of china lowkey
blud saw furia + mibr and thought “we need a whole league of these teams” 🤣💀
badvibrations [#100]Talk when you win something
bronzil are so trash in 2024 bro needed to go back in time to when y0y was the best player in the world 💀 furia + mibr dont even deserve to be in cn tier 3 🤣🤣
Skywarp [#104]bronzil are so trash in 2024 bro needed to go back in time to when y0y was the best player in the world 💀 furia + mibr dont even deserve to be in cn tier 3 🤣🤣
Still 1 Champions > 0
Anguibok [#48]You have 3 player that play in China already, you definitely can have a team of 5 Aussie that is competitive in CN T1 :
Sentinel : autumn
Scrambler/initiator : Pl1xx
Deulist : SwerlAPAC is stack, and if we want an OCE team in APAC we will need to wait GE is out because South Asia now got a T1 league, not gonna happen before a while, meaning while for no season they are 3 AUS player in CN lel
+return of Maple
number1_Demon1_fan [#19]CN 4 spots will be from now on TE DRG FPX EDG trust me
DRG sucks ass, replace them with JDG
SAMPV6 [#56]China wins 1 game vs a mid team and suddenly they deserve it all
They looked terrible today sorry can't wait for them to lose to FUT
xSaneZ [#107]DRG sucks ass, replace them with JDG
Shut up EDG flair, cracked russian import is owning
number1_Demon1_fan [#110]Shut up EDG flair, cracked russian import is owning
DRG is shit. grow a brain
Skywarp [#103]blud saw furia + mibr and thought “we need a whole league of these teams” 🤣💀
funniest shit ive read all day
Azzelastia [#32]Chill, the only won a match against a memea team
a Chinese team made an NA team disband
number1_Demon1_fan [#110]Shut up EDG flair, cracked russian import is owning
Why am I not surprised he is Demon1 Fan
BarbaraCult [#85]????? individual members is how we count trophies?? not the org???????/
if sentinels had 5 brazilian players and won an event, were you gonna say US won that event because org is USian?
KOMPOSTO [#117]if sentinels had 5 brazilian players and won an event, were you gonna say US won that event because org is USian?
They would both be accurate. if you had a core of three brazillians that would be both a brazil and a usa win. however, if you have an individual player you would not say brazil won. When drg lost did people "cis lost" or did they say "china lost". in fact if drg won today can you confidently say that it would be cis's trophy?
kaibe8 [#60]You only have Loud, if they are not good like rn, brazil has nothing
China has nothing, stop blabbering lil bro. Also, last time I checked, EDG got destroyed by LOUD.
KOMPOSTO [#117]if sentinels had 5 brazilian players and won an event, were you gonna say US won that event because org is USian?
thats only if the squad is brazillian, you can't just say that there are 4 NA players and 1 brazillian and claim that the trophy belongs to brazil.The squad is still predominantly american.
PooFaceCe [#72]"on top" is a bit of a stretch
Better than EMEA yeah, but is that really such a hard hill to climb nowadays?
not better than emea thats for sure
everything [#17]I Only believe blg and fpx. Edg fluke
some of u guys have insane takes ngl ... i respect it
champ2k21 [#121]China has nothing, stop blabbering lil bro. Also, last time I checked, EDG got destroyed by LOUD.
You should check more often, that was ages ago
badvibrations [#77]And China never had shit. Your point?
They have 3 2 good teams able to compete internationally.
Brazil has zero
BarbaraCult [#120]They would both be accurate. if you had a core of three brazillians that would be both a brazil and a usa win. however, if you have an individual player you would not say brazil won. When drg lost did people "cis lost" or did they say "china lost". in fact if drg won today can you confidently say that it would be cis's trophy?
didnt you just argue org's nationality is how you count evens in #85???
champ2k21 [#122]thats only if the squad is brazillian, you can't just say that there are 4 NA players and 1 brazillian and claim that the trophy belongs to brazil.The squad is still predominantly american.
that trophy belongs to both NA, Morocco and Brazil
the team doesnt even have a majority nationality
HUMANITYGONE [#79]remind me what team got 4-0 against BLG. It wasnt EMEA team.
I don't see NRG on champs, I only see FRAUDMEA losing to china
KOMPOSTO [#129]didnt you just argue org's nationality is how you count evens in #85???
Which is why both would be accurate. As a majority of players are brazillian, hence the brazil win and then org is american therefor its also an American win. Please read
KOMPOSTO [#130]that trophy belongs to both NA, Morocco and Brazil
the team doesnt even have a majority nationality
NA is majority, and johnqt is predominantly american.He's even competed in NA his entire career.Its stupid that you think that way lol
KOMPOSTO [#33]FUT, TH and fnatic all clear Vitality. Navi too lol
navi isn't clearing shit, and th lost 3 times in a row to vitality
champ2k21 [#137]NA is majority, and johnqt is predominantly american.He's even competed in NA his entire career.Its stupid that you think that way lol
2 americas, 1 canada, 1 morocco (johnqt doesnt even have canadian citizenship or PR), 1 brazilian, nt
Cabbage101 [#138]navi isn't clearing shit, and th lost 3 times in a row to vitality
TH had already qualified to champions, they didnt give af in the playoffs
KOMPOSTO [#139]2 americas, 1 canada, 1 morocco (johnqt doesnt even have canadian citizenship or PR), 1 brazilian, nt
america + canada = NA. nt
uwukitten [#3]I'm right here, vitality just fluked their way through kkkkkkkkk. china is still ass and trace isn't making it out of groups
GUESS WHO MADE IT OUT OF GROUUUUPPSS
ALEISTER [#12]Basic ass logic with that one cant be above average iq
can you still say this with confidence
kaibe8 [#128]They have
32 good teams able to compete internationally.
Brazil has zero
3 good teams kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
badvibrations [#146]3 good teams kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2 are still more than zero lmao
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