Kru fans shouldnt have the right to ragebait

But its okay, I understand the stress of supporting a bad team

Let me repeat, since your tiny ass brain cant wrap around the concept: vo0kashu 0 number 1 placements in china (60 players) Chichoo 2 number 1 placements in the entire world (240 players).

Thats all I need to say. Have a good day

I talk about internationals for all the points mentioned above, please be literate and read. Also again chichoo was number 1 itw twice, vo0kashu hasnt been number 1 in cn once, not a single time. That is the only argument anyone needs

If you fake with util and it doesnt draw 5 players, you will lose the round 90% of the time

If they do valorant will lack fakes, it will be 5 man push, 5 man retakes. The reason you can run reliable fakes is because you can put pressure on the map, knowing you can get the util back

When you say shooter, are you talking about frags or aim?

Because nobody would have one of the best pure aim on EDG but he ranks as the 4th best fragger.

Also either way chichoo is better than both, just look at champs 24 and bangkok. Observe what he is doing to peoplep

A week ago this would be satire 😭

Vo0kashu has made it to an international and he did okay. Chichoo also has MUCH better stats internationally than domestically, its not fair to only use chichoo's domestic stats, when the rest of his team is also sucking it up. Put chichoo in as many 1v4 positions as vo0kashu and naturally he will frag more in CN. International stats matter the most, who cares if someone like fengf was the first to reach 1000 regional kills if he cant put those numbers internationally, who cares if lysoar was top 10 in cn domestically if he cant even go positive in his best international tournament.

Vo0kashu's role is also absolutely to just frag, he legit plays haven garage every round taking duels to make it a 4v5 for DRG, he is on senti, because thats his best role. DRG and other CN teams with non chinese commers have publicly said they just let their players do their thing, while the rest of the team plays the macro.

Chichoo was the best player in the world twice. Vo0kashu hasnt been the best player in CN once, this shouldnt be a debate, Chichoo is legit in contention to be the best player in the world right now.

Yes, slowly to EDG might be the best roster move upgrades ever, kai to nova is also up there

KC in champs would be insane, hope it happens

I will always cheer for them... but when scout left it was pretty much over for them

My 500th post was "Smoggy??" Fair enough

Smoggy??

EDG: Loved them since league of legends. Smoggy is my favourite player in valorant, and ive liked the team since their debut in east asia ascension

FPX: Played super fun valorant in 2024, loved their triple controller and grown to love how life/berlin plays

TE: I think their champs run was super cool, hearing stories like bianks, luokings or heybays is amazing and they did china proud

Super basic chinese teams but what can I say I love a storyline when chinese wins lmao

I like biased homecrowds. Makes wins like lock//in that much better

no. Chichoo was the best player in bangkok. Smoggy isnt close to chichoo at his peak. Only kangkangs grandfinal performance is arguable to being better than chichoo but thats also because kangkangs grandfinal performance is THE BEST PERFORMANCE by any player ever

Achievement does matter. Chichoo has brought years of success to edg. Winning a trophy requires all of your players to be good. Its proves player quality. Its proves you can work in a system. For example someone like stew is insane but he is a horrible systematic player and incredible immature. Which are important factors to consider when talking about a player.

A reason why someone like vo0kashu can frag so well is because he doesnt need focues to comm that much, he doesnt need to be that discplined. He has 1 goal and that is too kill, that is what happens to a player who cant speak the language that well.

Look at chichoo, he is a super vocal player, and likes to shot call a lot on his lurks, which brings edg a ton of success. These are factors you need to consider, just because player A frag better than player B doesnt mean player A is better.

Next Chichoo has played better in scenarios that matter, chichoo has been on top of the world, in the spot twice. Vo0kashu has never come close to being number 1 in the world. Even in china vo0kashu is yet to claim the number spot once let alone in the world.

Vo0kashu also completely lacks international experience, he has only been to 1 major where he immediatly got eliminated, so vo0kashu doesnt top chichoo there, who has been through and experience top tier teams from around the world, experience how to play against the players from different regions. Something vo0kashu still has to learn

What has vo0kashu done to make you think he is better? Chichoo has way better achievements, perfomances, experience I dont see the vision

Everybody been saying to get obone out and kai in

Yeah if they get slowly its actually cheating

no bro he isnt 💀 chichoo literally was the best player in bangkok, and a contender for champs mvp theres no way you think vo0kashu is better.

Also fire power isnt everything. You need a good IGL to carry you through games. EDG have had years of firepower yet are not able to win until their igl got good

There is no ways people dont believe in chichoo senti. Also slowly is not a good igl. Great player but his igling is not that good

Zmjjkk duelist
Chichoo sentinel
Ezeir/smoggy smokes (depending on form)
Nobody intiator (igl)
Slowly flash intiator

Every team needs him beside like nova

Slowly is igl rn

I was saying this, he is insane fragger and insane utilitiy

Okay so nova is goated as long as they dont play guang duelist

If they dont change jieni for s1mon or someone else for cn playoffs, edg are 100% trolling

But right now we dont have a single contending team (except edg) who dont look good right now. Maybe edg will change internationally like b4 but evidence alone china is cooked

So much hope into nova man. Slowly is playing amazing but this performance would not slide internationally

Nova and fpx looked like they had potential but are dissapointing

Yeah but edg awaken internationally before hence "champs form" because they did the same thing as they are doing right now for cn kick off and cn stage 2 laster year. Im not counting them out just yet incase they do the same. But if they play like they do in cn, china might get 0 wins

Unless EDG get champs form again. None of these other teams are toptier, just okay teams.

Pacific bump

Bump

Who

Think they got the number wrong

Thats not very nice

I reply because im such a good person

Butterflies are cringe

Change it to dominos are better

About damn time, he has been sleeping all year.

I disagree but im too lazy to argue

Auraless

Will be posting edg vs fpx soon

Hope you like my lists

1.

Nova buy kai. And become the god squad

Nope, shenyang

Best CN players not on EDG
Duelist: Kai
Senti: Vo0kashu/GaunG
Smokes: Ezeir/Luoking
Intiator: Cb/s1mon
Flex: Autumn/yosemite

Yes I agree if fpx lose both series I expect shr1mp back or new player. Unless xll is a god player on stage, but from what I know he isnt

This is not a good list tbh