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BIGGEST FRAUDS IN VALORANT ESPORTS HISTORY (SO FAR

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#1
gutszeraa
  1. Boaster
    Not even close really. After entering several LAN tournaments as favorites in 2022 and leaving each of them without ever placing top 3, boaster's name was SOLIDIFIED in the Fraudest Of All Time conversation. However, what made Boaster the undisputed FOAT is his formation of a superteam after failing to win anything with a top 3 player and top 10 player itw. If this new fnatic roster with Chronicle and Leo does not make top 3 every tourney and does not win at least one of them, Boaster will be the FOAT for many years to come.

  2. RHZ
    This is probably a name unknown to most people who didn't adamantly watch the BR VCT in 2022 but I can tell with nearly 100% certainty that this guy is the probably second coming of the anti-christ. Never have I seen a player so blatantly try to sabotage the GOAT of the game (mwzera). His level of shittiness literally cannot be described in words. So glad mw is away from that fraud.

  3. RB
    This guy thinks he can have a good stretch of games and think he's clear from fraud allegations, lol not on my watch bud. I swear nobody has ever had as big as a LAN drop-off as RB except for maybe trent in M1 2022. Every split, RB shows people that he's a top 3 player in Korea, then gets to LAN and absolutely SHITS HIMSELF, literally the definition of an onliner. If it wasn't for DRX finally doing something at champions this guy would be flipping BURGERS. T3xture better.

  4. Jamppi
    He sucks ass I don't care about whatever anyone says. Never have I ever seen somebody rated so highly and get off SCOTT-FREE for being a HUMONGOUS CHOKER. This guy has literally NEVER played well in an elimination game. He's JAMES HARDEN in the clutch.

  5. Murizzz.
    This guy sucks ass and forgot how to shoot his gun ever since he started playing with mwzera. Sucks so much. Got in the way of mwzera establishing a dynasty. Just sucks humongous ass.

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n1cf
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  1. yay
#3
inlucid
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common gutszeraa W

#4
iehn
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tenz should be up there ngl

#5
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a superteam after failing to win anything with a top 3 player and top 10 player itw

name these fnatic players

#6
gutszeraa
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capital_d_colon [#5]

a superteam after failing to win anything with a top 3 player and top 10 player itw

name these fnatic players

derke and alfajer dont deny it you fraud

#7
babysasuke
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based list honestly

#8
Qwertyy
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agreed but also

where is curry

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R136a1
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i still can't let go of Rb's neon and kay/o no matter what :(

#10
I_HATE_MCE
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n1cf [#2]
  1. yay

Yay is what cNed wishes he was

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gutszeraa [#6]

derke and alfajer dont deny it you fraud

Derke. yeah thats fair enough, i was mainly talking about alfajer.

you act like alfajer was a super player before coming on fnc.

https://www.vlr.gg/84505/fokus-vs-surreal-esports-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion-ro6
fnc grow players.

you are acting like anyone would put alfajer in their top 10 rn.

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gutszeraa
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Derke. yeah thats fair enough, i was mainly talking about alfajer.

you act like alfajer was a super player before coming on fnc.

https://www.vlr.gg/84505/fokus-vs-surreal-esports-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion-ro6
fnc grow players.

you are acting like anyone would put alfajer in their top 10 rn.

brodie scoured through the entirety of alfajers vlr page to find a bad game, also fnc 'grows' players??? you mean plays a single tournament with them and then kicks them out after choking because of boasters shit calling on LAN? okay bud

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Qwertyy [#8]

agreed but also

where is curry

curry slander going too far.
especially cause you werent even a c9 fan back then

#14
nutab1e
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capital_d_colon [#11]

Derke. yeah thats fair enough, i was mainly talking about alfajer.

you act like alfajer was a super player before coming on fnc.

https://www.vlr.gg/84505/fokus-vs-surreal-esports-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-promotion-ro6
fnc grow players.

you are acting like anyone would put alfajer in their top 10 rn.

common fnc fan gaslighting moment, apparently until this very present moment no one has ever expected fnatic to win an international EVER

also behold this babysasuke w
https://www.vlr.gg/112223/why-you-should-be-excited-for-alfajer

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Gutssz
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i will find your home (we should drink coffee)

#16
gutszeraa
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nutab1e [#14]

common fnc fan gaslighting moment, apparently until this very present moment no one has ever expected fnatic to win an international EVER

also behold this babysasuke w
https://www.vlr.gg/112223/why-you-should-be-excited-for-alfajer

own that fraud

#17
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capital_d_colon [#13]

curry slander going too far.
especially cause you werent even a c9 fan back then

fair enough

he still sucks though

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gutszeraa [#12]

brodie scoured through the entirety of alfajers vlr page to find a bad game, also fnc 'grows' players??? you mean plays a single tournament with them and then kicks them out after choking because of boasters shit calling on LAN? okay bud

literally in his last 4 surreal games

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I_HATE_MCE [#10]

Yay is what cNed wishes he was

with Chamber at least, cNed's jett is better than yay's

#20
pebu
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ANGE1

#21
capital_d_colon
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nutab1e [#14]

common fnc fan gaslighting moment, apparently until this very present moment no one has ever expected fnatic to win an international EVER

also behold this babysasuke w
https://www.vlr.gg/112223/why-you-should-be-excited-for-alfajer

no shit baby sasuke hating on emea.
if he had a choice to watch faze win a champ or boaster to lose a final
hes picking the latter

#22
brobeans
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iehn [#4]

tenz should be up there ngl

he carried a lan win. not really "fraud" like. maybe past year's tenz could count but i think its more of a team issue

#23
number1_MIBR_hater
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based list

#24
reycac
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I_HATE_MCE [#10]

Yay is what cNed wishes he was

cned 1 champs yay 0

#25
Qwertyy
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reycac [#24]

cned 1 champs yay 0

yay 1 masters cned 0
yay 2 lan finals cned 1
yay 3 top 3 lan cned 1
yay 4 lans cned 1

NT

#26
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Qwertyy [#17]

fair enough

he still sucks though

curry literally owns ur bloodline

#27
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mocking [#26]

curry literally owns ur bloodline

bro acts like he cares about his T19 lenny time

and nflio is a fluke team tbh

#28
Sprouts
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curry
floppy
steel
koosta

#29
HockeyStick
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Yes t3xture better

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turkey
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pretty based, especially jamppi

#31
ItsMeDio
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FOAT? Fumbled of all time?

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  • Steel
  • Curry
  • Mixwell
  • Ethan <- he's not terrible, but so much hype when he switched over to Valorant just to end up being mid and having no success
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Rosario
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Qwertyy [#25]

yay 1 masters cned 0
yay 2 lan finals cned 1
yay 3 top 3 lan cned 1
yay 4 lans cned 1

NT

yay has 5 lans, 4 top 3, and 3 lan finals btw just a correction, and cned went to 2 lans

#34
Qwertyy
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Rosario [#33]

yay has 5 lans, 4 top 3, and 3 lan finals btw just a correction, and cned went to 2 lans

im only talking vct

#35
gamr
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why do people shit on trent so much for his LAN form but not BcJ? give the man a second chance jfc

#36
pitchfork
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wym rb onliner korea has been doing lan since 2021 even before VS go to international event. i agree he's not that good on intl lan as his domestic performance but saying he's onliner lmfao 💀

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gamr [#35]

why do people shit on trent so much for his LAN form but not BcJ? give the man a second chance jfc

because BcJ redeemed himself?

#38
gamr
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SAMPV6 [#37]

because BcJ redeemed himself?

and trent hasn't even been given the chance to redeem himself. trent posted a 240 acs avg at LCQ on initiator but he didn't qualify for LAN because his teammates simply weren't as good as he was.

#39
Revlo
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holy based list

#40
asdfgh
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pitchfork [#36]

wym rb onliner korea has been doing lan since 2021 even before VS go to international event. i agree he's not that good on intl lan as his domestic performance but saying he's onliner lmfao 💀

Korea farmer league lan with no pressure vs teams they already know they are 100 times better is a bit different

#41
idkbro
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Based list except for Jamppi, my man single handedly carried those liquid bums last year to champions, just go watch his youtube pov videos... Soulcas, Nivera and Scream having brainfarts while the man kills every1 on chamber

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gamr [#38]

and trent hasn't even been given the chance to redeem himself. trent posted a 240 acs avg at LCQ on initiator but he didn't qualify for LAN because his teammates simply weren't as good as he was.

no one is given anything fym

BcJ wasnt "given" a chance to redeem himself either, he took it and shined

Trent and TG did not, that simple. And fwiw, Trent wasnt owning domestically either post-Masters, Guard looked like shit until LCQ, all 5 of them

#43
WinterZ
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nt 0/8 + Jamppi owns you, little man

#44
Ryuji
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L Jamppi is best thing ever happened to TL valorant

#45
SigmaMale
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mocking [#26]

curry literally owns ur bloodline

Curry can't even own knights weekly 😹😹

#46
TacoTreyKirby
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Qwertyy [#34]

im only talking vct

It's still two lans for CNed no? Masters 3 Berlin and Champs 2021?

#47
TacoTreyKirby
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Qwertyy [#34]

im only talking vct

I am team Yay tho dont get me wrong

#48
TacoTreyKirby
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SAMPV6 [#32]
  • Steel
  • Curry
  • Mixwell
  • Ethan <- he's not terrible, but so much hype when he switched over to Valorant just to end up being mid and having no success

If the OG Ethan 100T roster didn't implode we would speak about Ethan differently IMO. However we don't live in a world of hypotheticals so I unfortunately have to agree

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Qwertyy
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TacoTreyKirby [#46]

It's still two lans for CNed no? Masters 3 Berlin and Champs 2021?

Uh typo

#50
gamr
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babysasuke [#42]

no one is given anything fym

BcJ wasnt "given" a chance to redeem himself either, he took it and shined

Trent and TG did not, that simple. And fwiw, Trent wasnt owning domestically either post-Masters, Guard looked like shit until LCQ, all 5 of them

1 tournament where they were struggling with the current meta and couldn't find their stride lol. shit happens, we see it all the time where teams dominate one meta and struggle with the next

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mocking
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SigmaMale [#45]

Curry can't even own knights weekly 😹😹

sigmamale acting hard becauseI havent gave him attention lately

deep down you are my fan and you know that....

#52
pitchfork
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asdfgh [#40]

Korea farmer league lan with no pressure vs teams they already know they are 100 times better is a bit different

still the statement wrong saying he's onliner, if he wrote rb farming in one team region kr then i have no problem. man just bored and decide to shit posting without facts check lmfao.

#53
EndMePleaseUwU
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You forgot about Wardell

#54
Average_VLR_User
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EndMePleaseUwU [#53]

You forgot about Wardell

Who?

#55
EndMePleaseUwU
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Average_VLR_User [#54]

Who?

Agreed

#56
SigmaMale
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mocking [#51]

sigmamale acting hard becauseI havent gave him attention lately

deep down you are my fan and you know that....

No one knows you lil bro

#57
Mortadelo
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Jamppi has been consistently the best player in TL and the main reason of their success. Or you think it was Scream’s Raze? Nivera Soulcas kekw? He is easily top 5 players EMEA

#58
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FNC is objectively the most consistent team in EMEA’s history, reaching the most LAN’s and averaging 4th place. Boaster has IGLed while never having worse than most IGL’s. So if you wanna say his dances cringe you out just say that, no need to lie about his gameplay

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Mortadelo [#58]

FNC is objectively the most consistent team in EMEA’s history, reaching the most LAN’s and averaging 4th place. Boaster has IGLed while never having worse than most IGL’s. So if you wanna say his dances cringe you out just say that, no need to lie about his gameplay

This list is purely based on gameplay, I don't dislike any of these guys personality wise. To make a fraud list based on personality would be parasocial and geeky.

However, to acknowledge that Boaster and FNC are perennial chokers and underperformers is NOT GEEKY and is NOT a LIE. Yeah FNC has been consistent, consistently FRAUDS. The only respectable runs Boaster has are the masters 1 2021 and champions 2021 runs, the only times he made a team greater than the sum of its parts. However, ever since that last 2021 champions run, Boaster fell into the redditor mentality where he just tried to recruit players with great individual skill and has been a complete fraud since then.

Copenhagen- Come into the tournament as favorites along with LOUD and OPTIC, however with LOUD falling in groups and OPTIC looking a bit shaky, the tournament seemed ripe for the taking. They beat their domestic rivals FPX comfortably in the first playoffs match, and lose 2-0 to PRX, which is permissible given that PRX were on fire and were sort of a wild-card and unpredictable. Then FNC BARELY scrape by LEV in the lowers, whom they should've beat without breaking a sweat. Then they lose to FPX who they beat 3-0 domestically and 2-0 earlier in the tournament

Champions- Just an embarrassing run honestly. Barely get out of groups after nearly losing to FURIA in their first elimination match, who weren't even expected to make it out of groups. After they get out of groups, they lose 2-0 in the playoffs to XSET, which isn't that egregious considering XSET just beat the reigning champions pretty handily in groups and were on fire. Once they fall to the lowers, Fnatic coast through their first match as expected, nudging TL to the side. Then they get to DRX, who seemed to be on track to being struck by their infamous 6th place curse once again. Fnatic are up 1-0 in the series and 8-4 in ascent, after that it should've been over. Derke and alfajer were on fire, you were up 4 rounds at the half in a map to potentially close out the series, the path to the lower finals should've been easy from then on. However, Fnatic manage to muster YET ANOTHER CHOKE. AND THEN LOSE IN THE THIRD MAP. HOW IS THAT NOT FRAUDULENT???

#60
gutszeraa
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gamr [#35]

why do people shit on trent so much for his LAN form but not BcJ? give the man a second chance jfc

i wasn't shitting on trent, i still think he's good and given more experience will probably flourish on LAN. i was just using him as a standard for huge LAN dropoffs

#61
gutszeraa
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pitchfork [#36]

wym rb onliner korea has been doing lan since 2021 even before VS go to international event. i agree he's not that good on intl lan as his domestic performance but saying he's onliner lmfao 💀

fair but this doesn't change his fraud rankings

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Cayub
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The Guard

#63
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#58]

FNC is objectively the most consistent team in EMEA’s history, reaching the most LAN’s and averaging 4th place. Boaster has IGLed while never having worse than most IGL’s. So if you wanna say his dances cringe you out just say that, no need to lie about his gameplay

Boaster has IGLed while never having worse than most IGL’s.

Hes a mid fragger and a shit IGL

paycheck stealer singlehandedly keeping EMEA from being a competitive region

AND he's cringe on top of it

cope shitty, you dont know what youre even talking about, just saying whatever + racist

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  1. Reformed
  2. ANGE1
  3. curry
  4. stax
  5. Mixwell
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Dokka
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BigK [#64]
  1. Reformed
  2. ANGE1
  3. curry
  4. stax
  5. Mixwell

Ange1 and stax is crazy

#66
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babysasuke [#63]

Boaster has IGLed while never having worse than most IGL’s.

Hes a mid fragger and a shit IGL

paycheck stealer singlehandedly keeping EMEA from being a competitive region

AND he's cringe on top of it

cope shitty, you dont know what youre even talking about, just saying whatever + racist

Get you're facts right https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022 . If you actually checked before speaking you would see boaster has the 4th highest Impact out of all the IGL's only behind King, Scream, and Saadhack, so if he is a horrible fragger what does that make you're shitty NA players?

Also, if you're gonna talk nonsense you can go do it to someone else. Go fuck off calling me racist, that's not a word to joke about

#67
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Rb probably just has anxiety issues, give him a break 😥. Also you're talking about the best neon player in the world there,just to remind you :)

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gutszeraa [#59]

This list is purely based on gameplay, I don't dislike any of these guys personality wise. To make a fraud list based on personality would be parasocial and geeky.

However, to acknowledge that Boaster and FNC are perennial chokers and underperformers is NOT GEEKY and is NOT a LIE. Yeah FNC has been consistent, consistently FRAUDS. The only respectable runs Boaster has are the masters 1 2021 and champions 2021 runs, the only times he made a team greater than the sum of its parts. However, ever since that last 2021 champions run, Boaster fell into the redditor mentality where he just tried to recruit players with great individual skill and has been a complete fraud since then.

Copenhagen- Come into the tournament as favorites along with LOUD and OPTIC, however with LOUD falling in groups and OPTIC looking a bit shaky, the tournament seemed ripe for the taking. They beat their domestic rivals FPX comfortably in the first playoffs match, and lose 2-0 to PRX, which is permissible given that PRX were on fire and were sort of a wild-card and unpredictable. Then FNC BARELY scrape by LEV in the lowers, whom they should've beat without breaking a sweat. Then they lose to FPX who they beat 3-0 domestically and 2-0 earlier in the tournament

Champions- Just an embarrassing run honestly. Barely get out of groups after nearly losing to FURIA in their first elimination match, who weren't even expected to make it out of groups. After they get out of groups, they lose 2-0 in the playoffs to XSET, which isn't that egregious considering XSET just beat the reigning champions pretty handily in groups and were on fire. Once they fall to the lowers, Fnatic coast through their first match as expected, nudging TL to the side. Then they get to DRX, who seemed to be on track to being struck by their infamous 6th place curse once again. Fnatic are up 1-0 in the series and 8-4 in ascent, after that it should've been over. Derke and alfajer were on fire, you were up 4 rounds at the half in a map to potentially close out the series, the path to the lower finals should've been easy from then on. However, Fnatic manage to muster YET ANOTHER CHOKE. AND THEN LOSE IN THE THIRD MAP. HOW IS THAT NOT FRAUDULENT???

You're problem is you rate them as first in the world before every tournament? Dude I'm sorry but that's your issue and it's fans issue not Boasters, yeah Derke might be really good, but not even consistent, Boaster and Mini gave him their trust just like alfajer, and no they're not even the Best 2 duelists in EMEA. On the other side, you got fucking Mistic, Enzo and Magnum who literally no one wants in the team. Still Fnc managed to stay at the top of EMEA and 4th in the world. So are you telling me Derke single handedly did that? Wdym they've always had the best team, in what world?

I actually consider what they did a fucking overperform not the other way around. You're problem here is you guide yourself to much by people's opinion instead of looking at the facts

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unknown_trash [#67]

Rb probably just has anxiety issues, give him a break 😥. Also you're talking about the best neon player in the world there,just to remind you :)

weird, he doesnt mentioned anything about victor

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gutszeraa [#61]

fair but this doesn't change his fraud rankings

I mean I think everyone universally agrees that rb is the worst or second worst player on the drx roster, including foxy9.

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Mortadelo [#66]

Get you're facts right https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022 . If you actually checked before speaking you would see boaster has the 4th highest Impact out of all the IGL's only behind King, Scream, and Saadhack, so if he is a horrible fragger what does that make you're shitty NA players?

Also, if you're gonna talk nonsense you can go do it to someone else. Go fuck off calling me racist, that's not a word to joke about

4th highest Impact

How are you measuring this? He's spending more time trying to get kills than being the IGL?

If he's so impactful, why is every roster built around him a massive failure?

Get you're facts right

Follow your own advice. This may work with some people, but youre not just going to statdump me and pretend you actually made a point

shitty NA players

Who played Champions finals btw? Pretty sure my continent and APAC ran the whole event kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk good looks on Boaster outfragging IGLs that are actually playing their role though, truly a winning strat if Ive ever seen one. Thats why they were so close to winning a single event this year!

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babysasuke [#71]

4th highest Impact

How are you measuring this? He's spending more time trying to get kills than being the IGL?

If he's so impactful, why is every roster built around him a massive failure?

Get you're facts right

Follow your own advice. This may work with some people, but youre not just going to statdump me and pretend you actually made a point

shitty NA players

Who played Champions finals btw? Pretty sure my continent and APAC ran the whole event kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk good looks on Boaster outfragging IGLs that are actually playing their role though, truly a winning strat if Ive ever seen one. Thats why they were so close to winning a single event this year!

What do you even mean how do I measure this? I literally just linked you the stat that measures a player individual impact

#73
unknown_trash
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stratdiff [#69]

weird, he doesnt mentioned anything about victor

Because rb >>>>> Victor on neon and idc what anyone says.

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babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#72]

What do you even mean how do I measure this? I literally just linked you the stat that measures a player individual impact

Show me the stat that shows on average how lost Fnatic is against T1 competition outside of their own shit region

He's the IGL, but he's refusing to/incapable of filling this role, so he's trying to backpack and still putting up mediocre performances

If you want to compare KDA/ACS/KAST, do it against the other players in his role. Not IGLs, but controllers like marved, pancada, mako, sScary

He sucks, lil bro.

Bad IGL, mid tier fragger

Your argument: His rating is better than FNS and dephh so he's the better IGL!!!!!!!!!!

clown moves

#75
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babysasuke [#74]

Show me the stat that shows on average how lost Fnatic is against T1 competition outside of their own shit region

He's the IGL, but he's refusing to/incapable of filling this role, so he's trying to backpack and still putting up mediocre performances

If you want to compare KDA/ACS/KAST, do it against the other players in his role. Not IGLs, but controllers like marved, pancada, mako, sScary

He sucks, lil bro.

Bad IGL, mid tier fragger

Your argument: His rating is better than FNS and dephh so he's the better IGL!!!!!!!!!!

clown moves

Can you click the link and see before saying this stupid stuff which you're actually smart enough to realize does not make sense? Also don't worry he has the same ratings than Scary and Marved if that makes you feel better

Read a little bit https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained

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babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#75]

Can you click the link and see before saying this stupid stuff which you're actually smart enough to realize does not make sense? Also don't worry he has the same ratings than Scary and Marved if that makes you feel better

Read a little bit https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained

What would make me feel better is if you had half a brain instead of dickriding overrated shitmea garbage players and teams, then trying to twist irrelevant info to fit into your arguments

How many iterations have we been through of this "build around Boaster and Mini" strategy?

How many times has X Fnatic player been the best in the world, just for the team to get embarrassed at LAN once they need to adapt or counterstrat? He's literally incapable. If Derke and Alfa aren't diffing the enemy team like they do in SHITMEA (because no competition dead shit region), Fnatic falls on their face.

Why is this?

Becuase instead of prepping for these matches or learning how to adapt to the situation, they just sit and wait to lose site and pray that the people actually putting in the work (Derke and Alfajer) can make up for the fact that Fnatic is flustered, confused, and unprepared WHICH is entirely because they have a T2 IGL that hasnt gotten better over the course of 2 years, and cant be dropped because he is the only player in the whole region with any kind of out-of-game following.

Boaster is the problem, and you are the enabler. Please cope harder my friend, the more you prop this dog up should be more of a case for him to get dropped before regular season starts after they bomb out of LOCK IN (like they do at every international event)

#77
nutab1e
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Mortadelo [#68]

You're problem is you rate them as first in the world before every tournament? Dude I'm sorry but that's your issue and it's fans issue not Boasters, yeah Derke might be really good, but not even consistent, Boaster and Mini gave him their trust just like alfajer, and no they're not even the Best 2 duelists in EMEA. On the other side, you got fucking Mistic, Enzo and Magnum who literally no one wants in the team. Still Fnc managed to stay at the top of EMEA and 4th in the world. So are you telling me Derke single handedly did that? Wdym they've always had the best team, in what world?

I actually consider what they did a fucking overperform not the other way around. You're problem here is you guide yourself to much by people's opinion instead of looking at the facts

You couldn’t have made a less accurate take dude

First of all no one ever in the history of vlr has attributed FNC success to Boaster lmao, literally the opposite

Second of all he is more than good enough, definitely not the best in the world but not bad at all

And wtf is a team full of superstars supposed to mean, are we talking about Enzo or Mistic kekwwww. Yes Derke and Alfajer are very good, they can’t carry 3 “bots” by themselves. Plus both of them were known for being very good but Boaster and Mini were the ones taking the risk to sign them when nobody else did

1 month ago

#78
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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n1cf [#2]
  1. yay

cneds best game is yay's most tilted game

#79
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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n1cf [#2]
  1. yay

yay claps cned blindfolded

#80
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#75]

Can you click the link and see before saying this stupid stuff which you're actually smart enough to realize does not make sense? Also don't worry he has the same ratings than Scary and Marved if that makes you feel better

Read a little bit https://www.vlr.gg/160667/vlr-gg-player-rating-explained

nah cmon lets go

Tell me more about how youre using combat stats to justify his postion in a role that is entirely measured in intangibles you clown

Not gonna post BS stats, die on the hill to defend it, then disappear are you?

Find the stat in what you posted to try to discredit the fraud allegations that shows Boaster is a good IGL? Or use the same stats to argue that Saadhak and FNS are worse than him. Please, Im begging you to defend your shitty point, im not done laughing at you yet

#81
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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n1cf [#2]
  1. yay

yay's nominated for esports player of the year, i dont see cned's name on any awards 🤨

#82
WinterZ
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turkey [#30]

pretty based, especially jamppi

L take

#83
Rosario
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Qwertyy [#34]

im only talking vct

yea im talking bout vct only also, berlin m3 2021 top 2, berlin champs grouped, iceland 1st, copenhagen third, and istanbul 2nd.

#84
babysasuke
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nutab1e [#14]

common fnc fan gaslighting moment, apparently until this very present moment no one has ever expected fnatic to win an international EVER

also behold this babysasuke w
https://www.vlr.gg/112223/why-you-should-be-excited-for-alfajer

I was fuckin spittin in that thread

all facts too, who would have guessed 💀

#85
turkey
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SAMPV6 [#32]
  • Steel
  • Curry
  • Mixwell
  • Ethan <- he's not terrible, but so much hype when he switched over to Valorant just to end up being mid and having no success

ethan used to be one of the most overrated players oat in valorant but it calmed down a little after he changed to NRG

#86
Luck_
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not only does jamppi own everyone on this list, he owns the world. goat player you are just wrong.

#87
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#80]

nah cmon lets go

Tell me more about how youre using combat stats to justify his postion in a role that is entirely measured in intangibles you clown

Not gonna post BS stats, die on the hill to defend it, then disappear are you?

Find the stat in what you posted to try to discredit the fraud allegations that shows Boaster is a good IGL? Or use the same stats to argue that Saadhak and FNS are worse than him. Please, Im begging you to defend your shitty point, im not done laughing at you yet

First of all Ratings is not a KD stat, it has a lot more value than that. But whatever, what are you saying that he is a bad smoker cause he has bad utility? Common dude whatever

Since I see you’re just not gonna understand this way let’s try something else. Tell me Babysasuke, what’s your opinion on Enzo and Mistic?

#88
OnlyOneStar
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Hmmmm

#89
jimjam789
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stratdiff [#69]

weird, he doesnt mentioned anything about victor

weird because the last time I checked rb diffs victors neon everytime

#90
wohe
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Qwertyy [#25]

yay 1 masters cned 0
yay 2 lan finals cned 1
yay 3 top 3 lan cned 1
yay 4 lans cned 1

NT

i'm gonna come back for this when cNed shits on yay (i like yay but sry cNed clears)

#91
Crystalzer0
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Mortadelo [#87]

First of all Ratings is not a KD stat, it has a lot more value than that. But whatever, what are you saying that he is a bad smoker cause he has bad utility? Common dude whatever

Since I see you’re just not gonna understand this way let’s try something else. Tell me Babysasuke, what’s your opinion on Enzo and Mistic?

I think you should just stop feeding this goddamn clown

#92
not5kin
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Murizzz being on there is understandable but rhz at number two is WILD and even though rb has only recently started playing better offline, I think that’s enough to take him out of top 5 at least, even if you want to make an argument for too 10. Imo floppy has gotta be top 5 frauds (at least in valorant, not making any assumptions regarding his cs career) because of how people started swearing up and down that the cs players would destroy only for floppy to get rolled and go back to cs. Truly one of the flops of all time. Obviously these lists are all gonna be super biased, this is just my take

#93
Mortadelo
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nutab1e [#77]

You couldn’t have made a less accurate take dude

First of all no one ever in the history of vlr has attributed FNC success to Boaster lmao, literally the opposite

Second of all he is more than good enough, definitely not the best in the world but not bad at all

And wtf is a team full of superstars supposed to mean, are we talking about Enzo or Mistic kekwwww. Yes Derke and Alfajer are very good, they can’t carry 3 “bots” by themselves. Plus both of them were known for being very good but Boaster and Mini were the ones taking the risk to sign them when nobody else did

1 month ago

What about it? I think all I said there is accurate? It’s literally the same I just said? FNC success is not just Boasters, but that doesn’t make him the responsable of every loss

#94
Mortadelo
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Crystalzer0 [#91]

I think you should just stop feeding this goddamn clown

Ik but him and Nutable reply to EVERY single one of my posts. I can’t just ignore them, I’ve tried making peace with them but they don’t want to

#95
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#87]

First of all Ratings is not a KD stat, it has a lot more value than that. But whatever, what are you saying that he is a bad smoker cause he has bad utility? Common dude whatever

Since I see you’re just not gonna understand this way let’s try something else. Tell me Babysasuke, what’s your opinion on Enzo and Mistic?

Rating is a weighted combat stat, please try not to be stupid in my presence

Im saying hes a mid controller and a shit IGL, reading comprehension check

Enz0 and mistic are standard SHITMEA players who's perception got trashed because they had to play without an IGL or coach. They will shine wherever they go to next

#96
my_fav_team_is_M3C
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Based list
Jamppi is a big fraud

#97
Unsicklaupedy
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Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#81]

yay's nominated for esports player of the year, i dont see cned's name on any awards 🤨

Average

#98
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#95]

Rating is a weighted combat stat, please try not to be stupid in my presence

Im saying hes a mid controller and a shit IGL, reading comprehension check

Enz0 and mistic are standard SHITMEA players who's perception got trashed because they had to play without an IGL or coach. They will shine wherever they go to next

Okay great, Enzo and Mistic are mid players indeed, and actually they won't shine wherever they go next since no tier 1 team has decided to pick them up that's how mid they are. Which leaves us with 2 options:

Either you just admitted Derke and Alfajer can 2 vs 5 every team and reach the 4th place in the world surrounded by mid players and a shit IGL. So they're like the two best duelists in the world

Or maybe Boaster it's not so bad and fnc strats allow three mid players to bring enough value to the TEAM that has not s0 much individual talent

Does that make my point more clear to you?

#99
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#95]

Rating is a weighted combat stat, please try not to be stupid in my presence

Im saying hes a mid controller and a shit IGL, reading comprehension check

Enz0 and mistic are standard SHITMEA players who's perception got trashed because they had to play without an IGL or coach. They will shine wherever they go to next

Rating takes into a count many things, and if you had read the article I sent you you would know. Assists for example are not just combat, true first deaths and first kills say a lot about positioning etc and yes killing is also a part? What else tf do you value if it's not assisting your teammates, getting entries and killing people?

#100
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#98]

Okay great, Enzo and Mistic are mid players indeed, and actually they won't shine wherever they go next since no tier 1 team has decided to pick them up that's how mid they are. Which leaves us with 2 options:

Either you just admitted Derke and Alfajer can 2 vs 5 every team and reach the 4th place in the world surrounded by mid players and a shit IGL. So they're like the two best duelists in the world

Or maybe Boaster it's not so bad and fnc strats allow three mid players to bring enough value to the TEAM that has not s0 much individual talent

Does that make my point more clear to you?

4th place was a fluke lmfao

literally picked one good run and ignored every other event

#101
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#99]

Rating takes into a count many things, and if you had read the article I sent you you would know. Assists for example are not just combat, true first deaths and first kills say a lot about positioning etc and yes killing is also a part? What else tf do you value if it's not assisting your teammates, getting entries and killing people?

I read the articile when it was posted

What else tf do you value if it's not assisting your teammates, getting entries and killing people?

He's the IGL, theres 101 other things he needs to be doing that are MORE important than getting assists and kills

spoken TRULY like someone that has never played the game

#102
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#100]

4th place was a fluke lmfao

literally picked one good run and ignored every other event

FNC averages 4th place in Valorant history, only have been grouped once and it was with 2 subs so keep coping.

Anyway, that’s what I wanted to hear, the fluke argument, I’m just gonna take that as a win, have a nice day

#103
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#101]

I read the articile when it was posted

What else tf do you value if it's not assisting your teammates, getting entries and killing people?

He's the IGL, theres 101 other things he needs to be doing that are MORE important than getting assists and kills

spoken TRULY like someone that has never played the game

Ofc there’s more things as IGL, but you textually said there’s more things to an smoker, so don’t back up when you run out of arguments

How do you measure how good is an IGL without hearing him call? You can’t know what’s his idea and what’s someone else. All you can do is look at consistency and results, and boaster has lots of those

#104
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#102]

FNC averages 4th place in Valorant history, only have been grouped once and it was with 2 subs so keep coping.

Anyway, that’s what I wanted to hear, the fluke argument, I’m just gonna take that as a win, have a nice day

FNC averages 4th place in Valorant history

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAHAHAHAHA

bro got his little spreadsheet and weighted each international finish of every team and found the mean?

AVERAGED FUCKING 4TH???? They had 1 decent run this year, and one last year, and youre putting them 4th overall with no international wins holy fucking COPE

And every decent finish they made was on the back of Derke or Alfa, could have won if Boaster wasnt such a fucking dog. Mistic had more presence than him jajajajajajaja

#105
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#103]

Ofc there’s more things as IGL, but you textually said there’s more things to an smoker, so don’t back up when you run out of arguments

How do you measure how good is an IGL without hearing him call? You can’t know what’s his idea and what’s someone else. All you can do is look at consistency and results, and boaster has lots of those

All you can do is look at consistency and results

Not true shitty

Look at the setups, watch the rotates and timings, see how the team reacts to different playstyles

These are things you can literally see if you watch the game lmfao

Or you can read the endgame stats and what place they finish in and rank Boaster as an IGL off of it

You are fucking lost Shitadelo and you have minimal to 0 understanding of how the game is played or what an IGL does

#106
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#104]

FNC averages 4th place in Valorant history

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAHAHAHAHA

bro got his little spreadsheet and weighted each international finish of every team and found the mean?

AVERAGED FUCKING 4TH???? They had 1 decent run this year, and one last year, and youre putting them 4th overall with no international wins holy fucking COPE

And every decent finish they made was on the back of Derke or Alfa, could have won if Boaster wasnt such a fucking dog. Mistic had more presence than him jajajajajajaja

If you do the math they average 5.9 (If they place 5th-6th I take 5.5). And if you take out the tournament they had with two subs then it's 4.5. But cry all you want. Also Alfajer was there in only 2 of the tournaments, are you gonna tell me Magnum was the other carry?

#107
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#105]

All you can do is look at consistency and results

Not true shitty

Look at the setups, watch the rotates and timings, see how the team reacts to different playstyles

These are things you can literally see if you watch the game lmfao

Or you can read the endgame stats and what place they finish in and rank Boaster as an IGL off of it

You are fucking lost Shitadelo and you have minimal to 0 understanding of how the game is played or what an IGL does

Behind KRU they are the team to attend more LAN's in Valorant history, tied with DRX and OPTC, and out of all of them they've been grouped the least times and it was with subs, if that's not being consistent then you can go ahead and tell me what it is

Ah yeah ofc from the observer you can hear who gave a call and who didn't, you have magic powers

#108
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#106]

If you do the math they average 5.9 (If they place 5th-6th I take 5.5). And if you take out the tournament they had with two subs then it's 4.5. But cry all you want. Also Alfajer was there in only 2 of the tournaments, are you gonna tell me Magnum was the other carry?

Why are you even arguing Fnatic's placings?

The argument is that Boaster is a fraud and Fnatic can only win when the carries diff the other team, as they do in Europe (weaker competition than rest of the world).

Your "math" is fucking stupid and you took out the event that further proves my point that Boaster is a shit IGL
FPX got out of groups without their full roster? But Fnatic simply cannot without Derke? Its fucking groups

Alfajer was there for every tournament in the last year that they even made an attempt to be competitive

Iceland: Grouped cause no carry
Copenhagen: Beat 1 Non-SHITMEA in knockouts
Champions: Only beat their own region's last seed in knockouts

Literally a disgustingly shit performance all year COPE HARDER 4th fucking place overall hoooooly stupid

#109
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#107]

Behind KRU they are the team to attend more LAN's in Valorant history, tied with DRX and OPTC, and out of all of them they've been grouped the least times and it was with subs, if that's not being consistent then you can go ahead and tell me what it is

Ah yeah ofc from the observer you can hear who gave a call and who didn't, you have magic powers

you can hear who gave a call and who didn't

are you insane? that's his JOB
He is the IGL, if he's NOT making the calls to win the game, then why the fuck is he on the team?

And yes, I've said it a thousand times (not exaggerating), Qualifying from EMEA is fucking free. They are historically the least competitive region in the world, are a 2 team region at their absolute best, and have a history of getting an extra seed. Liquid and G2 got to go to LAN from the same shit region and they have NEVER been good lmfao.

Put them in NA or APAC, and they make 0 LAN appearances

#110
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#108]

Why are you even arguing Fnatic's placings?

The argument is that Boaster is a fraud and Fnatic can only win when the carries diff the other team, as they do in Europe (weaker competition than rest of the world).

Your "math" is fucking stupid and you took out the event that further proves my point that Boaster is a shit IGL
FPX got out of groups without their full roster? But Fnatic simply cannot without Derke? Its fucking groups

Alfajer was there for every tournament in the last year that they even made an attempt to be competitive

Iceland: Grouped cause no carry
Copenhagen: Beat 1 Non-SHITMEA in knockouts
Champions: Only beat their own region's last seed in knockouts

Literally a disgustingly shit performance all year COPE HARDER 4th fucking place overall hoooooly stupid

I already told you why we are arguing placements. Anyway, enough nonsense for today, have a great day

#111
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#109]

you can hear who gave a call and who didn't

are you insane? that's his JOB
He is the IGL, if he's NOT making the calls to win the game, then why the fuck is he on the team?

And yes, I've said it a thousand times (not exaggerating), Qualifying from EMEA is fucking free. They are historically the least competitive region in the world, are a 2 team region at their absolute best, and have a history of getting an extra seed. Liquid and G2 got to go to LAN from the same shit region and they have NEVER been good lmfao.

Put them in NA or APAC, and they make 0 LAN appearances

Thanks for bringing your delusional part out and giving me the reason

#112
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#110]

I already told you why we are arguing placements. Anyway, enough nonsense for today, have a great day

admit that you dont know what youre talking about

admit that you lost your original argument, tried to change the argument, and then lost that one too

#113
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#111]

Thanks for bringing your delusional part out and giving me the reason

admit that you dont know what youre talking about

admit that you lost your original argument, tried to change the argument, and then lost that one too

#114
Mortadelo
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babysasuke [#112]

admit that you dont know what youre talking about

admit that you lost your original argument, tried to change the argument, and then lost that one too

#98, but think that if it makes you feel better

#115
Derpp
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BigK [#64]
  1. Reformed
  2. ANGE1
  3. curry
  4. stax
  5. Mixwell

Bro said stax 💀

#116
babysasuke
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Mortadelo [#114]

#98, but think that if it makes you feel better

#112 #113

Yes it will make me feel better, do it

#117
babysasuke
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capital_d_colon [#21]

no shit baby sasuke hating on emea.
if he had a choice to watch faze win a champ or boaster to lose a final
hes picking the latter

Not true

But FaZe winning Champs vs Boaster not qualifying from FREEMEA?

Thats a toss up

#118
nutab1e
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Mortadelo [#93]

What about it? I think all I said there is accurate? It’s literally the same I just said? FNC success is not just Boasters, but that doesn’t make him the responsable of every loss

Not just boaster now, but no one in vlr history has EVER attributed fnc success to boaster right?

Comedy.

#119
100TBoeJiden
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TenZ
TenZ
TenZ
TenZ

sinatraa > TenZ

#120
catmeister
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where is mixwell?

#121
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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Unsicklaupedy [#97]

Average

you're just jealous because cned cant win shit. yay on top; cned on the lowest of the low

#122
alitmanus
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bro RHZ is a good guy he doesn't deserve all this hate

also he's not bad

#123
Unsicklaupedy
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Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#121]

you're just jealous because cned cant win shit. yay on top; cned on the lowest of the low

stay mad yay era is over

#124
Yi_Long_MA
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Put Seoldam and f0rsaken. bunch of clowns LMAO

#125
Crystalzer0
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Mortadelo [#94]

Ik but him and Nutable reply to EVERY single one of my posts. I can’t just ignore them, I’ve tried making peace with them but they don’t want to

Haha, I wish you good luck then

#126
Karmine_Org_WhispeR
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Unsicklaupedy [#123]

stay mad yay era is over

Nah you stay crying, because yay is still the best valorant player in the world 😹😹😹

#127
gutszeraa
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alitmanus [#122]

bro RHZ is a good guy he doesn't deserve all this hate

also he's not bad

this is based on gameplay im sure hes a nice guy

#128
ZettGundam
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DAMN

#129
Zerphyr1
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n1cf [#2]
  1. yay

aged like milk

#130
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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ZettGundam [#128]

DAMN

DAMN

#131
Chow1E
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based, dont know why people downvote you king

#132
n1cf
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Zerphyr1 [#129]

aged like milk

?? it literally aged like wine broski y0y is washed

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