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Pacific are doomed

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#1
Kaito_M8

I am sorry but im not confident with our potential team going to toronto

DRX not looking good without flashback,
Boom might choke and not giving the same performance at international tourney bcs nerves got the best of them
T1 gameplay doesnt look convincing rn,
RRQ, nah dont start with me on this one

Compared to the best of EMEA & AMERICAS, APACs top dog kinda look weak rn. Any1 thought the same ?

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XAXAX
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Keep yapping bro

#3
grisx23
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Had this shit pre cooked. Avg t1 fan

#4
Kaito_M8
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Nah im genuinely worried

#24
UrWaifu
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pacific wont win anything if they have loser mentality like urs tbh

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Kaito_M8
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Im more into realistic aproach than hopeful one, This T1 vs rrq game sucks ass, only to repeat another year with relying on 1/2 individual, Lmemore got like 2-6 games where he did +25 kills but theyre almost never gone into playoffs. Think realisticly is this kind of plays gonna do them good on higher stage ?

Im not putting expectation just for team to qualified to masters. Every pacific team that qualified to them must be potential to win them, not just only to be there as a participant

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UrWaifu
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im more worried if the current T1 is representing APAC instead

#43
Kaito_M8
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Thats why i fucking write that im worried of APAC not just indo teams

#52
UrWaifu
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they're not even on international stage yet, and ure overthinking shit alr, pathetic

#54
Kaito_M8
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Im writing to give awareness, if you think your teams good your delusional

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UrWaifu
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Compared to the best of EMEA & AMERICAS, APACs top dog kinda look weak rn. Any1 thought the same ?

no one thought the same, u're alone on this 😂

#59
Kaito_M8
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Its ok, numbers doesnt necessarily means your right

#41
ha1za
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Keep yapping t1 crying fans, crab mentality lo keliatan banget bro dan tu jelek

#28
Fluxcicide
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what is there to worry LMAO , drx just choked the fuck out in bangkok, t1 is pretty decent taem ( STOP RUNNING UR DOGHSIT REYNA COMP ON ICEBPOX), BOOM is genuienly good team( U cannot overthrow ascension teams (G2)), RRQ have a lot of potential if they dont throw playoffs,
IF YOU ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT PACIFICS (SEA) reputation then u have to WATCH OUT FOR PAPER REX , TS.

#5
wagonVAL
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T1 didn’t look convincing going into Bangkok either. Neither did geng going into Shanghai. I believe they show up when it’s needed

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Kaito_M8
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No but this rrqs man, how they losing to them

#25
xhaetae
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rrq isn’t even a shit team 😭, they just always choke when it matters

#27
catNmouse
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geng lost to rrq before btw

#47
ha1za
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Yup Classic indonesian Crab Mentality and please stop it, jelek sumpah

#81
alpine007
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GenG lost to team secret before masters shanghai. let that sink in. they didnt lose 2-1 they lost 2-0

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Huyab
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Bro had the perfect anti-jinxxxxx... please keep doing it, we will win MASTER TORONTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#21
Kaito_M8
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Sadly im not antijinxing rn, RRQs mainya jelek bg jujur dh. Kok ini malahan kaya boom yg paling jago si aneh. Semoga flashback balik dan gabikin drama dh. Jujur seneng tim indo masuk playoff tp gw lebih concern ke apac bisa ngasih team yg paling bagus performanya dan menanging master. Kaya agak lemah kita dibanding top region lain

#31
catho
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loser mentality to be honest, sadly ur not going anywhere

#33
kayriva
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"kaya boom yg paling jago" iya bang iya

#37
Huyab
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Kaya agak lemah kita dibanding top region lain

Nah, lu harus nonton region lain cok... Region lain pretty much regress juga, lu liat tim2 papan atas sono aja kek LOUD bottom kek peperex.. klo keliatan lemah ya T1 juga sebelum bangkok lemah, nyatanya nyala pas udh disana.. apalagi RRQ (monyet) + BOOM udh punya pengalaman Intl stage.

PRnya RRQ tinggal benerin masalah2 kecil. RRQ itu dari dulu klo menang bantai, klo kalah pasti kalah tipis.. Tandanya ceiling RRQ itu tinggi sebenernya.

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GastV
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Bener nih, kebanyakan yapping tapi kurang nonton region lain. G2 yang disebut sebut dewa aja sbenernya gak sempurna, masih ada celah. Orang Indo ni kebiasaan inferioritynya kambuhan

#38
ner0nLyy
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T1 without meteor are shit lil bro

#49
Weluz99
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Dari master tahun lalu juga selalu dibilang pacific paling lemah pacific paling ccd, tapi akhirnya gmn ? Geng sama T1 tau tau bisa menang. Lu liat T1 di kickoff kmrn main nya aja ampas bgt bisa tau tau menang Master. Ga ada yg bakal tau coyyy, yang bisa buktiin cuman player dan coach yg ada di dalem tim.

Sama Region lain lu liat juga aja sendiri main juga ga bener. Yang bener cuman G2 masih keras, Vitality? abis kalah 2x. EDG? juga dah kalah. Semua emg lg pada shaky bro dan emg tim tim lain udh pada catchup.

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ZekaGoat
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The Prx fans mentality LMAO. My team isn't as good as i think = the whole region is shit lol

#42
Kaito_M8
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Only taking T1 flair because i see their potential after their first game versus RRQ in Radiant Invitational China. But i still watch more these 2 indo teams than T1. Booms are fine but this RRQs man, i dont think theyare as good as people think they are. they need more than a tweak to atleast be a good contender for international tourney

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catNmouse
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what #5 said, they’re the type of team to play better in internationals than regionally. they just need to make it to toronto doesn’t matter which seed

#10
MassterBaiter
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Atleast indo teams are playing good why are you thinking in a negative way lol

#11
FateQz
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geng time

#12
Ppeeeppe
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Bro go do your homework

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LeCat
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Have u seen EMEA?? its also a mess over there. If G2 doesn't win Toronto, they wont ever win.

Their only competition is....

No one

Edg and DRX is in roastedmania
T1 messy af, boom don't have enough experience
Vit , Th and fnc are doing whatever ?? Like fnc is weaker than last year and TH is playing worse

Point is Boom only need to beat G2 to win basically

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catNmouse
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VIT are struggling

#48
Effluxi
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It's never that simple. VIT looks dogshit to the point they might lose to Apeks this week if they lean into Batu better but the others can definitely catch up. VIT may not even be going to Toronto at this point. FNC TH TL is looking increasingly likely and TL is improving ridiculously fast once again, like in the leadup to Bangkok.

Whatever is happening with flashback on DRX could be resolved by then, but also, Estrella will probably be worked better in even if flashback isn't back because they'll have actually had good practice time with him.

Then of course KRU and MIBR.

I'd be happy to see a BME win but don't kid yourself into thinking it's free besides G2. It absolutely won't be. Outside of the CN teams that are all bumbling, there's plenty of time for teams to catch up.

#79
Yuniee44
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Yeah emea is looking very similar to apac, where vit and t1 are both struggling against some of the stronger middle tier teams.

I wouldnt actually say fnc is gonna be weaker than last year, on paper their players are worse but I think they improved mentally so much that they could perform better this year than last. Heretics are international merchants, they looked meh every time in regionals last year. Going into champs most people wrote them off based on placing 3rd.

I think all these teams, apac and emea, will be different beasts when going to internationals. T1 struggled during kickoff a bit too and locked in at bangkok.

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KssS
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RRQ and BOOM are good wdym????? Their strats, aim, and confidence makes them a top contender for international events.

#15
UrWaifu
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with a loser mentality like urs?, yeah

#16
DrudaL
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T1 look ass in kickoff and group stage too, but they win masters

#18
AzShun
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no one care about your opinion and your existence

#19
loapoarg
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Yeah korean teams are cooked without vods
It is Pacific is cooked not are

#83
gordonramsay
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you sound like the biggest bitch lmao, if you actually think theres a correlation to that and korean teams performance you are here for a rude awakening

#20
Astar
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toronto should be g2 trophy to lose. imagine losing to the less experienced teams

#22
Gatzk
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wtf this dude on..

#23
LocoMonteiro
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T1 looked so garbage at kickoff, they were unanimously placed in 8th in every single tier list going into bangkok
Performances at regionals dont matter

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xonya
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is this cope?

#29
unknown_trash
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Ok? No one expected T1 to win Bangkok either. And no one expected geng to do so well last year either. Also I think RRQ can do really well.

#30
Stormbreakers
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Boom might choke...
RRQ don't start me on this one ...

Sure buddy. T1 had a bad game today and they do need to think of their macro, but come on. What is this with the doom? Boom and RRQ have been genuinely playing so well and have good ideas, these were not shameless losses for DRX and T1, especially if they study the results and prepare accordingly.

#32
ha1za
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Mentality lo jelek

#35
kitsuragee
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crab mentality classic indo

#36
1One1
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Dont worry, T1 saving strat

#40
Frizzly
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Honestly just stop man, realistic this realistic that.... It looks more like a pessimistic and negative mindset rather than being realistic bro. Just try to relax and believe that they'll show up and delivers

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XAXAX
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Are you think G2 looks greater than pacific teams? Blind

#45
meanmean
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Is bro saying something similar to what was said during Masters bangkok?

#46
aburnie
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Bro is playing off superstition and not actual gameplay. BOOM and RRQ look damn solid, some mistakes are inevitable but literally every team in the world has those from time to time. If you cannot see the level up of these 2 teams then you're cooked. DRX has some role issues now that Flashback has taken a step back for whatever reason that may be, but lets not forget that was literally week 1 and they had to try something new. Obviously they need to keep Free1ing on perma Tejo and just find a way to work around this change. Beyn is still a solid player albeit not a star but this roster can definitely still work.

T1 looked shit going into Masters and then won the whole thing, stop doubting when PACIFIC is a Top 1/2 region with insane mechanics and every team levelling up. No other region is this hardly contested in the Top 6

#51
GuGengKwaMueng
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Today Buzz looked offline compared with vs TS

#53
kitsuragee
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indo indo, selalu ngeliat orang bule tuh superior. mental inlander lu masih kental bgt. inlander + crab mentality. pathetic.

#55
hehe444
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bro got flair after t1 won bangkok

#57
Kaito_M8
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Got this shit flair before this team win anything, even off season event

#56
Kaito_M8
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Dibilangin dari awal biar ada awareness masih banyak kekurangan malah banyak yg ngatain dan ngejudge wkwkwk

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UrWaifu
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Valorant awareness 😱😱, our top team is so shit what should we do?? oh no, this is the end of the world dang it! if only T1 win that game, screw u T1 look what have u done!

#61
Kaito_M8
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Now look whos having mental issues lol

#62
UrWaifu
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#63
zakirnp
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wtf r u saying this bcs t1 lose to rrq? cmon man, what a crab mentality u had lol. imagine what ur gonna say if t1 win? “oh no there is no other good team besides t1 blablabla” pathethic

#64
Tzhuuu
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bro orang orang juga pada tau kalo APAC punya kekurangan dan kelemahan, as a matter of fact semua tim di dunia punya kelemahan btw.
jadi sebenernya tujuan dan inti pembahasan lu ini ga gitu make sense. Oke iya lu mau naikin awarness its fine, tapi at the ending orang akan memproses pembahasan lu ini menjadi sebuah statement negatif, ya wajar ( karena tujuan awareness ini orang orang udah pada tau )
i mean hello? the best of the best still have flaws.
semangat bro :)

#66
UrWaifu
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Kalaupun nanti tim yg represent APAC "lemah" emg kita bisa ngapain? if they win, they deserve it. Kalaupun lemah doesnt mean we shouldnt support em, daripada ngehate/ngejatuhin mending kasih semangat buat yg lolos.

#68
Kaito_M8
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Kalau tim nya keliatan lemah tentunya jangan banyak di hype in. Bagus sadarin & kasih saran biar bisa perbaikin kesalahan sebelum mastersnya dimulai

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UrWaifu
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bro, semua tim tanpa dikasih tau juga bakal usaha buat improve itu udh jdi tugas coach dan yg lainnya, jangan dihype? supporter gk salah mau ngehype atau nggak kalaupun timnya jelek ya silahkan aja klo mau support, kalo nggak ya gausah.

#72
Kaito_M8
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Berharap apa dari coach ? Udah berapa tahun ngelatih hasilnya cuma bisa masuk playoff, kalau ada apa2 yg disalahin playernya mulu. Player ganti2 mulu ujungnya hasil tetep gabeda jauh sama yg lama. Tugas coach ngapain itu kalau begitu hasilnya

Supporter nge hype tim jelek silakan kalau timnya indo, kalau timnya singapore dijudge abis. Hipokrit banget

Padahal Gw bahkan diujung nanya opini wdyt, masih juga sumbu pendek. memang lebih mudah judge orang, dibanding paham esensi nya

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  1. Baru masuk playoff aja lo udah nyari2 sisi negatifnya, ngerasa paling tau apa yg ada di dalam tim. Udah keliatan ada improvement jg yg lu cari malah kejelekannya, jelek banget sifat lu sumpah itumah udh haters aj.
  2. Kagak nyambung kocak OOT bgt.
  3. Lu udh dpt jawabanlu tp lu-nya aj yg masih denial sambil ngotot sma org yg g sependapat, mending introspeksi diri dh.
#74
Kaito_M8
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Hadeh cape ngetik doang gw

#77
UrWaifu
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capek gw ngomong sama org yg ngerasa paling benar

#65
IndiaNoob
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do your homework and go to sleep bozo

#67
Marsh-
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sybau bro

#69
Lyz
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Nice broo

#71
z12
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ass team fluke trophy kkkkkkkkkkkk

#75
Bearmans2
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Yapper kentut

#76
UrWaifu
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kek polisi chat anjir

#78
Trip11
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istg ts the craziest shit I've ever seen. People really dislike RRQ so much they start to discredit accomplishments and ignore notable improvements. Look! They no longer have inconsistent shooters like Lmemore and got rookie of the year Kushy. Then they fixed their igl-ing problem with crazyguy, and Ewok is with Warbirds for better anti-stratting. Now they are on a win streak and beat the defending champions cleanly (no experimenting with goofy comps or role switching excuses, etc.). But all that apparently isn't enough for some people.

nah dont start with me on this one🥀
At some point ts starts to get disrespectful. After every improvement they have made, and after today's performance against T1, all this hate/doubt towards RRQ is prejudiced and very undeserved. Give the damned team a chance

#84
Kaito_M8
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3 years only to fucking realise this coach is shit ? Nahh

#85
Trip11
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It's not the quickest of glow ups, sure, but in those 3 years RRQ's results have been a steady upward trend. From dead last in lock//in, to making stage 2 playoffs last year, to now being a 1st seeded team who are legit contenders for a masters event.
Compared to teams like GE, DFM, KOI, GX, FUR, TS who have tried many changes which unfortunately didn't get much results, I can picture how OG RRQ fans who have been following since 2022-2023 are super grateful to see their team the way they are today.

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gordonramsay
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If indonesia beats korean teams to represent at Toronto im sure they will do a good job for pacific

#82
Kwevs
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You never know until they are there, T1 was ranked the worst team coming to bangkok then won. Just enjoy the competitiveness and wait for playoffs.

#86
Kaito_M8
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SYBAU people who straight up judge me 😂
Sooner or later you guys gonna understand that your team is shit

#87
Fluxcicide
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It's been a week bro give it a fucking rest

#88
XAXAX
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Oh really? You're so smart, huh?

#89
Fluxcicide
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He is projecting Lmao don't worry

#94
XAXAX
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Lol

#91
Kaito_M8
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Bro you still ask ? Really
I fucking called it weeks ago u dumbass

#93
XAXAX
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Why you frustating if RRQ lose? I am ok with that

#90
Stormyv8
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RRQ > T1
T1 > Zeta
Zeta > Talon
Talon > NS
NS > TS
TS > RRQ

Everyone's shit, everyone lose

#95
Gatzk
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BOOM : Hello?

#98
Stormyv8
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Well they're on the other group so let's see at playoffs

#92
Shadow_Monarch
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Don't worry APAC not winning Masters this time.

Americas EMEA looking stronger and China can always come out of nowhere again.

#97
Stormyv8
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Well TBF were always here for surprises and heated competition so we'll see how Toronto goes

#102
XAXAX
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we can't judge based on useless matches

#96
bearmans
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just one game. ONE FUCKING GAME. and you doompost like pacific didn't win trophies this and last year.

#99
XAXAX
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Indonesian mentality make pacific looks poor

#100
Shadow_Monarch
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I want BOOM RRQ NS to pop off but hopefully they fix their mistakes. DRX would've been a strong force if they kept Flashback on Yoru.. T1 is looking weaker and maybe GENG will come back in good form.
We shall see.

#101
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Tbh we aint contributing shit to pacific trophy cs our team is shit. Dont talk like it is our trophy because it really isnt.

5 tahun gada achivementnya region ini ditambah fansnya kaga sadar2 kalo timnya mid aduh

#103
bearmans
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???? i didn't say "we" whos we? gw bilang pacific as a whole. korean, japanese, SEA, SA included.

#104
XAXAX
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You sound dumb, stop talking.

#106
bearmans
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RRQ is a dumbass team, i'll be honest. but to undermine and underestimate a whole region just because one or two of their teams fumbled some regular league match is just restarted.

#107
Kaito_M8
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You agree rhat rrq team aint good enough and theyre being the first seed into playoffs and we cant say our league is kinda cooked. Idk what to say to you

And i aint worry if the teams fumbled are RRQ, NS, Talon off course. Im not only talking about regular match for this rrqs team, theyre very scrappy and i dont beleive their coaching can do much because i dont think their run this split 1 is considerably good enough for masters

#108
bearmans
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i think i said this already in another thread. playoffs games will tell on which teams deserved to play in intl and which doesn't.
i'd call RRQ the best team itw because they won against T1 but reality you can't really weighs these team black and white.
if they could win against T1 they would win against intl teams. unless you are saying T1 flukes bangkok and are bottom feeder team?

#105
eLxR
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wait for TORONTO they will show you same was with t1 during kickoff

#109
AzShun
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mana lu tolol

#110
XAXAX
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Here we go again with this braindead

#111
Weluz99
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Goblok goblok blok blok

#112
Keyras
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LU TOLOL, pasti di rlnya sampah masyakarat kau

#113
Huyab
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