LOCK/IN GRAND FINAL

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NioMS

I didn't even realize the crowd were booing the Fnatic players during their walkout

Most satisfying end to a VCT final ever and probably the most underrated achievement in VCT history as well

The crowd got what they deserved that day

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thats how a crowd should be
that shows loyalty on their part, better than these boring home crowds right now. also why stuff like APAC ascension where boom lost was entertaining, despite that, cuz home crowd was insane

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NioMS

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Not saying it shouldn't but that makes the win and the comeback even more incredible
To do it such an atmosphere can not be underestimated at all

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Aayan

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100% Agree
The silence afterwards spoke volumes

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Pixalfv

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no bias over here

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geng did it too in shanghai, their trophy lift was incredible. they faced issues through out the entire tournament

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cameran

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thats true yeah

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i agree. it was traumatic for BR personally but thats what makes the game fun after all. feeling these emotions. i respect a hater/biased crowd much more than have a bot crowd

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KClaw

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Yeah tbh , t1 had that kind of crowd on their side in Bangkok if u paid attention

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Ryuukami

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oh yeah fs, especially when leaf whiffed the OP on match point on lotus

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genuine, i cant believe im saying this but i miss that crowd

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Koreymi

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I like biased homecrowds. Makes wins like lock//in that much better

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NioMS

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I don't really support any of the french orgs but man give me as many of them as possible at Champs this year since the crowd will go crazy for them!

Vitality should be at least one that makes it and they've got a French player now which makes it even better but the KC and even G8 fans would go way crazier I feel but yeah if VIT is the only French org they would get most of the fans anyways.

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Koreymi

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KC in champs would be insane, hope it happens

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yeah KC is def the biggest french org so the fans would go crazy

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way better than just those air clappers other arenas use to create ''atmosphere''

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And then you have seoul, fans out here clapping like its a golf game.

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tokyo also npc crowd

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Like Shanghai when gen g won and they were literally cheering themselves in front of the crowd.

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2 years later ur crying about booing (something that happens in any real sport like mma or football)

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LowGun

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FNC turned that shi into an actual library. It was so satisfying to watch.
Also i think JP/Americas crowd is better for internationals.

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NioMS

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Nah Europeans go even crazier just wait for Paris

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LowGun

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So far no. But paris might be crazy.
Madrid/Reykjavik was kinda underwhelming. Tokyo and Bangkok had insane crowds.

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Er3ngenes1s

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0 ball knowledge. just look up at blastv major paris crowd in yt

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Dreoxx

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read what he said. "so far no"

then he mentions the fact that he has high hopes for Paris going to be crazy, and bases off the fact that Madrid and Reykjavik was underwhelming.

also CS >>> VAL in terms of EU viewership and fanbases + riot-based game obviously less unhinged and more moderated than cs events

you are comparing apples to watermelons atp

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Er3ngenes1s

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tf u mean reykjavik when they were held during covid and no crowd? the crowd in madrid during finals were crazy good too i suggest u checking out.

whats unhinged and unmoderated about CS events again? obviously apart from gambling cuz soon riot is also adding betting sponsors too

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LowGun

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"0 ball knowledge"
and does not even know masters was held in Reykjavik twice.
The one where Optic won had a full crowd.
So far EU does not have the best crowd but not the worst either.

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Er3ngenes1s

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The one where Optic won had a full crowd.

Sorry are u restarted?

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Dreoxx

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so we're just going to ignore every other match in Madrid other than the finals?

CS events are known to foster the uncouth-yet-couth vibe and are characterized by the franchises' deep roots and extremely loyal fanbases, some for over 15 years, which is 3x of what VALORANT stands as.

You ever see that one clip of the trumpet dude in? I'll link it for ya :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQYeXjkKMg

just search up a whole ass drum session they had in the stands in IEM Rio as well

meanwhile in VALORANT, you can't even think of doing that (and I'm also pretty sure Riot-sanctioned events ban all sorts of things, and most definitely instruments of any sort)

to answer what's unhinged/unmoderated, just look at the fucking casters??? they have way more leeway and freedom to say certain phrases/topics, and mess around in general. whether its making a joke out of p*rn or openly cursing out a team, you have it all.

also ts happens constantly: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1fnj5wc/maj3rs_response_to_blade_concerning_crowd_cheating/

so I hope this is enough evidence to make you reconsider what you're saying

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Er3ngenes1s

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the crowds were very loud whenever sen ,TH, prx, KC played. almost entirety of playoffs the crowd was loud. just cuz riot games is just an indie company with so much sensitiveness and very much snowflaky about things and they feel to need censor every single shit, it cant be helped. thats exactly the reason why CS has always been entertaining globally and will continue to be. and yes i am the one who mentioned paris major so i obviously know that clip.

Plus, ur hindsight is damn crazy. Like the reddit thread u linked is fckin bs. like ts doesnt happen in valorant is what ur telling me? LMAOOOO ok buddy.There are countless tweets from vct pros complaining this shit in multiple intl events. just cuz something is unhinged to you doesnt mean its the same for everyone.

i'd rather have cultural crowds rather crowds filled with NPCs. One more thing, u said about casters having leeway and freedom and val casters getting moderated? and u think its a bad thing? if thats the case, my god i dont know how many people are not letting the beans get spilled cuz we get to see shit like this get exposed.
https://x.com/ScrawnyCG/status/1903898506814701697

moderation is 50% good and 50% bad at the same time. these cs casters still get moderated but if they do heavy moderation like in val then its bad sign

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KINGMANNY42

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madrid had a good crowd in finals and everytime TH played since it was home audience yet they lost 0-2 swiss

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Shuaaaa

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Iirc locking was in brazil (americas)

I think you'll find the most diversity in fans at a U.S. and/or Chinese arena. Not sure if it will be like that in the future though

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Watch Worlds semis in paris, best crowd

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**Most unsatisfying end to a VCT final ever and probably the most overrated achievement in VCT history as well

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Pixalfv

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better than some wii sports npc ahh crowd

of course they are gonna support their local team, its the most popular team in Brazil playing in the grand final in sao paulo, but yeah booing is kinda cringe

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Yistyy

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congrats to fnc, but i wouldn't call it "underrated achievement". you have to keep in mind how many asterisks were in play during that event.

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windwine

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any1 who said it is a not legit tournament is stupid cus they were the best team until champs in 2023 and in lockin they played all top teams in best form then

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CoJo

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One of the coolest moments in my esports career was thousands of Brazilian fans shouting “You’re going to die” in Portuguese and literally shaking the earth beneath us before the Final started. Will never forget that, most intense crowd we’ve ever played in front of.

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Steelz

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do you think this was the best lan event you've ever attended?

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unofficialwaifu

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Getting death threats and pulling that 3-11 comeback. That's so fucking chad bro.

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2bored

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thats not death threats lmao

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CoJo

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I would say it’s the most intense / most traditional sports event I’ve ever been to. But I’d say Tokyo was up there too because we were the home team there and their fans are so nice and supportive of us. Basically the difference between playing away at a huge rival or playing at home in front of your fans - both are amazing for different reasons.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Another very underrated victory is LOUD against Fnatic in 2023 at the Champions, the whole crowd was rooting for Fnatic and LOUD silenced Los Angeles

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secksyy

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this is like when you’re talking to yourself in the shower trying to make yourself seem cooler

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Did I lie?

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secksyy

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yes

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fiv5Mmmmm

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what did i lie about?

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secksyy

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Like, all of it man.

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Wasn't the NA crowd rooting for Fnatic then? Wasn't the crowd silenced by Loud victory?

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Er3ngenes1s

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NONE in NA were rooting for fnatic for blud. they were rooting for americas

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Watch the game again, everyone was rooting for Fnatic

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Er3ngenes1s

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blud the crowd was just enjoying the game knowing both loud and fnatic are two great teams. salty ahh bronzilian

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fiv5Mmmmm

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First, talk like a normal person
Second, watch the game again

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you act like VLR is home to intellectual and grammar-proper individuals

but yes, crowd was slightly biased towards FNC

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Dude is talking like a 14 year old kid who watches tik tok/insta reels 20 hours a day

"blud" "ahh" "br0nzilian"

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Dreoxx

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what did you expect on this site

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Er3ngenes1s

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Comparing LOUD's home crowd who were booing Fnatic the whole time and shaking the whole arena whenever loud got a round vs Fnatic getting slightly supported in LA (mind u there were loud fans in the arena too) is shit comparison. sorry to break it to u.

plus never thought someone could get so much pressed over using slangs xd

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Wow, who would have thought that the brazilian crowd would support a brazilian team, right?

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Er3ngenes1s

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and u thought NA crowd supports an EU team? would you also 'wow' on that moron?

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Yes, the NA crowd rooted for Fnatic, whether you liked it or not.

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Er3ngenes1s

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Least deluded brazillian:

continue thread →

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Even Saadhak said at that time that it didnt felt like they were representing Americas because the great majority of the crowd was always cheering for LOUD's oponents. Against DRX ( South Korea ) they were cheering for DRX, against NAVI (Ukraine) they were cheering for NAVI, same with Fnatic and PRX.

He was not complaining about it because people can cheer for whoever they want, but this "Los Angeles was cheering for Americas" claim is straight up wrong.

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Er3ngenes1s

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they were still repping americas. it wasnt like 2021 or 22 like they were repping brazil or sumin

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NONE in NA were rooting for fnatic for blud. they were rooting for americas

I know LOUD was representing Americas. But you said that no one in NA was rooting for fnatic, which is just wrong as even the players like Saadhak, Less and Aspas talked about how they were NEVER the crowd favorites in Los Angeles no matter who they played against, even tho they won VCT Americas that year

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Er3ngenes1s

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that is just projection at this point. there are people rooting for both teams but neither of em were favorites. Plus give me one reason why NA fans would support an EU team instead of supporting an americas team?

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glittering_yard

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I dont know the reason, thats just what the LOUD core that played in Los Angeles said about the NA crowd, they were not complaining, just stating that there was no feeling of belonging and unity to the "Americas" region

Here is just one example, aspas (Americas MVP) vs Rb (South Korean player) in Champions Los Angeles:

https://youtu.be/wxerKh6ezHM?t=465

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Ripbozo2

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lock in = mickey 😹😹😹😹

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Looking back, it's a bit sad that we're never going to reach the level of cinema that was FNC vs LOUD in Brazil. It's the passion from the fans that made that game even more special and fun to watch. Yeah, walking out after FNC won was super disrespectful to the players but if you don't like hearing a crowd that hyped to support a team do you even like competitive gaming or sports at all? It must've been an unforgettable experience for the players.