South Americans Come

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Wunkey

If you're from Latin America, do you support Brazil against North American teams? Similarly, vice versa for Brazilians fans? Or would you rather neither win?

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sa and br are friends for ever!!
we have always been ignored

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Wunkey

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Thank you for the answer! Follow up question: Do you support North American teams versus teams from other regions during international events?

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ah yea, absolutely

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Follow up question: Would you support apac/emea teams versus teams from other planets if we played interstellar tourney?

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lmao

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Follow up question: Would you support mars/venus teams versus teams from other solar systems during galactic events?

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not really, the teams from the other solar systems said racist insults to my country :c

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dUDEX

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We have to care about eachother because no one cares about us!!

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well keznit was racist to brazilian players, so dont support KRU and lev is not even a LATAM team anymore so no one to rly root for last yr though some rooted for lev aspas and king

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thats fucked no?

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LockN

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what keznit?

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yeah

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LockN

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yeah it is.

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Wunkey

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Fair enough. Really hate it when there's just one player who makes it impossible to support the roster as a whole.

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LockN

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yeah, but like if it was as normal LATAM roster ofc support our brothers like 2023 LEV
it's kindaa sad rn not being able to root for LATAM teams and no sacy on sen either

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2023 lev was good and funny, well represented c:

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"keznit was racist to brazilian players" in plural is crazy, keznit is literally best friends with a lot of brazililan players xD
like keznit and heat

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these people just believe what they want, it doesn't matter if dgzin insulted mazino first, he and the entire br scene are victims of keznit racism for saying dgzin cj XDDD

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they're just exaggerating, they hold a grudge when not even the players themselves hate each other

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yeah and he have a good relationship with Aspas, Tuyz, Khalil, Heat, Mwzera, the brasil promise Ghoul, etc.

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gapunk

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bro keznit is friend with like half of the br scene before valorant even exists

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-Artorias

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im not south american but i support brazil

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foythvlr

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i personally do
people have a complicated relationship with kru because they forgot is not only keznit on the team
i really like shyy and melser for example
although i would rather have BR teams/players i will be cheering for latam when they're not there

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Wunkey

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Thank you for the answer! Follow up question: Do you support North American teams versus teams from other regions during international events?

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foythvlr

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not for being americas, no. it depends. there are teams i like because i gained sympathy for them (Sen because of Sacy), others because i like watching them play, others because of good memories and rivalries (optic/fnatic core). overall i just like watching valorant and dont really cheer for anyone when there isn't BR on the game (with a few exceptions mentioned)

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Wunkey

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Makes total sense. That's usually the same philosophy I have if there aren't any Korean teams!

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I kinda do, but the whole keznit thing still bugs me, but i would rather adverso, shyy, melser and mazino win than an NA team

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i think that keznit thing is just shit, both players (dgz and keznit) did the things wrongs, dgz insult mazino first and keznit defend him
and why hold a grudge when not even the players themselves hate each other?

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LockN

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DG does not like KRU bud go watch LOUD's vlog vid on matchday vs KRU, and insulting vs being racist are 2 entirely different things

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why you say "dg does not like kru" that's irrevelant, i never mentioned that dgz likes kru
and dgz said "lerdo" what means like be retarded or slow

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LockN

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it means slow not retarded and u lit said the players dont hold a grudge and im telling u that the dg who keznit said racist shit to does not like the KRU team he does infact hold a grudge and again calling someone slow and being racist is very different idk why we're trying to downgrade racism but for me it does not make it ok to support KRU

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Calling someone slow and being racist are the exact same stuff in my opinion.

You are being a shitty person to another human. That's it.

Dgz started the bad mouthing in a scream against Mazino, Keznit called him a bandit, GL's coach started calling Keznit fat. He got mad.

Keznit was an asshole for calling him CJ? Sure. Dgzin and his staff? They too. Grow up.

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LockN

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yeah a generalized insult that can relate to what their doing vs attacking someone's identity with stigmas and stereotypes abt their race are the exact same thing. Like be fkn fr you can make excuses for him all you want man it doesn't change the fact he was and is a shit human being. It is and never will be the same one is something you apologize and move on because you're insulting one person the other is you being an asshole to an entire group of people and showing your bigotry and the way you think about them. you need to grow the fuck up buddy. You sound like a 13yr trying to be edgy saying racism ain't a big deal.

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Fedra

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I have, under no means, excused racism. My words were that both, being racist, and insulting are the same shit, just a human attacking other due to differences.

What I said is that both said shitty things.

How is calling someone fat (which, while I can agree Keznit is fat) better?

Being overweight can be due to different disorders and can cause severe depression to people. Even a relative of mine took his own life due to comments such as the ones said by Dgz's team.

But it is ok to insult them if they attack you with being black? No, you are just getting down to their level.

As I said previously both parts acted like shitty people.

Which is why I do not stand by Keznit, Dgz or the other parts' side that participated in that discussion.

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LockN

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They are not the same thing, and one is worse than the other; not one is better than the other. I explained to you the difference between the two.

"Getting down to their level" is the dumbest shit I ever heard by anyone. Humans don't nor ever will sit there and take physical or emotional abuse. And shit you've heard repeated to you to your family and on watch you see in media thrown in your face on top of it being something you know historically has happened.

Yes, I agree both out of place shit, and no fatphobia is not ok. But they are not nearly the same thing; the systematic and social abuse racism has, is, and will continue to cause as well as just showing how Keznit thinks about an entire group of people will never make it fine for me to support KRU. I already explained why they are not nearly the same thing twice; you have clearly not experienced this and I'm not here to get sympathy, but they are no where close to the same thing so shut the fuck up study a little and stop doing vibe based analysis on an asshole who was racist

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Fedra

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As I don't really want to continue the conversation. I will say that we both have different points of view towards toxic conducts.

While you think that racism is a whole other level, I am more inclined to the everybody sucks.

At least we can agree that they both acted like shit in some degree.

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Xinardium

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I really don't understand where's racism in saying DGZ looks like a character that he actually really looks alike. That comparison was in response of Dg comparing keznit to a ugly chicken, and insulting mazino. I mean, i would understand if dgzin was compared with a monkey or something. In this case, they started comparing shit, and in response keznit did the same with a character that dg look alike. Toxic? of course. Immature and childish? Also. But never racist.

I actually think that half of brazilians that think keznit was racist, actually never saw the complete conversation and just have assumed something they've never seen, or something out of context. The other half is just malicious accusing keznit of something really serious just to try to take him down because in game he washes your teams.

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knd

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i dont think there is a general preference
it's more of a personal thing

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ngl i wanted SA to do better this year and so far i´ve gotten more than i wanted with loud kru and mibr playing this well, also tier 2 SA is looking very strong specially latam because it got a lot of BR reinforcements that have a lot of talent like snwzin blow and ghoul

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Fedra

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I support teams in the following order:

KRÜ-MiBR-LEV-Loud-FUR-2G

I mean, MiBR has as many South American players as LEV and BR has historically been SA's training partner.

Our cultures are so similar that BR is, in fact, a part of LATAM, but Riot split the regions.

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koromast

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they split it because of language not necesarily other reasons tho

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Fedra

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I only meant that in-game the regions are split in BR, North and South LATAM, while IRL the three are one region. Maybe it came out wrong due to how I phrased it.

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Prasinos

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We do support SA teams in Sports and Esports.
But the racist thing with Kru makes things harder for us to cheer for they.
In generall, we support SA, exception to Argentina teams bc they call us monkey, we cheer against they, but most of times we ignore this fact and support they.

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Yes, first I support KRÜ, then any Brazilian team and then any Americas team if there is no south america left playing.

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1ski

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i actually like kru, even with the dgzin x keznit beef... so my priority would be:

loud>mibr>2game>furia (almost giving up tbh)

then kru>lev

then prx just cuz i like them

and THEN the rest of americas, i will support them against other regions :)

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bullet194

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Yes, because NA is MUCH toxic against BR. So KRU > NA (Lev is emea for me.)

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M0ngeCuritiba

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On these occasions I would support KRU if keznit gets rid of its old problems, other than that I like their team, but LEV is no longer a SA team, I see no reason to support them.

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he already apologized a long time ago and he seemed repentant. there is no longer that problem between dgz and keznit, but obviously there will always be tension

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Personally , im cheering more for Latam teams then BR teams , even Tho Lev is more like a EMEA team RN and KRU is Double-edged knife (sometimes playing well and sometimes trolling) .