no, its Loss not palla

BBL out in groups smh

Oh I didnt know that

T3xture was 3rd for me, I js think what alpha did at his peak was insane, and what spring did for wolves is also crazy, he solo carried a handfull of maps and to do that on such an underdog team is more impressive to me than t3xtures performance

I do think they were all very close to each other in terms of performance but those 2 were just slightly above for me

yes lets just never play breach or kayo again!!!

I think I value later games more highly than early games just because they're more important. Even if texture never stepped off the gas alfa's peak was higher

alfa and spring> texture imo

especially after what alfa did in grandfinals if fnc took it to a map 5 he definitely would've broken kk's kill record

W engagement bait

-- said the silver

To the few ppl that are saying f0rsaken > Chronicle:

Chronicle:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)

Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14

Best performances:
Berlin 2021: 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts)
Champs 2021: MVP (but losing team), so 2nd MVP (after zeek)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on losing team (3rd MVP of the series overall)

International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8)
5 Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player.

Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: #2 player of the year (after GMB nAts)
2022: N/A
2023: #6 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke)
2024: #12 player of the year (after T3xture, Zekken, Meteor, RieNs, Aspas, Karon, W00t, Derke, TenZ, Chichoo, Zmjjkk)
2025: ~#5 player of the year so far (after Alfajer, F0rsaken, Meteor, Trent. Debatable: Derke, T3xture)

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F0rsaken:
2021: Duelist
2022: Duelist + Chamber
2023: Duelist + Initiator (Flash/Support) + Controller + Sentinel + IGL
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + Yoru + Harbor + Cypher + IGL
2025: Controller + Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + IGL

Trophies: 1, Finals: 3, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 7
International Appearances: 11/14

Best performances:
Toronto 2025: MVP of Toronto 2025's winning team (realistic: 2nd MVP)

International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10)
1 tournament of being a top 10 player.

Player Ranking Every Year:
2021: N/A
2022: #13 player of the year (after Yay, MaKo, Sacy, pAncada, Shao, Derke, Aspas, Suygetsu, Marved, Less, Crashies, Alfajer)
2023: #18 player of the year (after Leo, Alfajer, Demon1, Aspas, Derke, Chronicle, Jawgemo, Less, d4v41, Sayf, Ethan, something, cNed, Zmjjkk, s0m, Shao, MaKo)
2024: N/A
2025: ~#1-#3 player of the year (convo: F0rsaken, Alfajer, Meteor)

0 debate, Chronicle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F0rsaken

pretty much what localkoolkid said

just could not close a map to save their lives

me too

yes

yes

juicy

ok? js because ppl aren't cheering for a team doesnt make them a meme or troll team

meme team?

I don't think so. I for sure havent seen that interview, but anytime bro gets asked abt it on stream he talks about going back to playing as if its as bad as getting cancer. So, I doubt he'll comeback ever, but definitely not this year

Dude I know how good he would be. He doesn't want to play.

I want wtv ur on. Sacy is never coming back to VCT. Although I wish he did

where da skins at?

A water cove, with shorties and cgrs's

crazy?

3-1

Mechanically not, but tier 2 teams would still lose to the bottom of tier 1 maybe not to all ascension teams, but player to player mechanically not really

Of course the heretics fan saying trophies dont mean anything lmao

.

Yay, Jawg > sacy is crazy work

mhm

crazy?

https://indeed.com/

always been a thing for 2nd masters since franchising

Talvez mas nao tem como saber. Se tivesse o mesmo salario minimo eu entendo nao ter chamado uma line gringa. E tambem a situacao do kickoff da Furia era bem differente. Eles precisavam de uma line pra jogar por que e o evento principal nao a ewc.

Eu nao sei como o salario funciona pra time temporario mas o normal e tipo 4k por mes(50k por ano) se eles tiverem que representar o qualifier todo e 15k do bolso da Loud. A Riot bota como o minimo. Entao nao sei se consiguiriam. Eu acho que tem que seguir o salario minimo pra line temporaria tbm.

They're poor asf

its the 11th for americans and also they're weird so its 5/12 instead

kjhaflkjasdhfkljasd;lkfjajsdf PLZ, WWW

just a question because the imagination goes fucking crazy

how much fanfiction have you written?

<3

he was pANcada was tourney mvp, aspas was finals mvp

this is the argument now? and Trace could've beaten kickoff T1 again you have not watched the games

welp now we separate the men from boys 4-3

No, you can't T1 kickoff would've gone 0-2 in Bangkok and went back to Korea. You clearly don't know what you're talking about

Rb has been in China for 2 years now performing ok at best. Zest was still on a dysfunctional team and played like shit. And, you cannot compare Kickoff T1 to Bangkok playoffs T1; 2 completely different teams. If you think they are close to the same level of gameplay you havent watched the games or are just braindead. DRX beat T1 2x in kickoff.

Foxy9 on a team that didn't make Bangkok, and Zest played on Bleed and Bleed were the worst team in pacific when he was on the team. Rb did go to China and China is good he just hasn't performed anywhere near the level that Mako has since leaving. While playing in an easier region.

No, no one has ever cared about regionals. No one says aspas has 2 trophies, he has one champs 22. Its also 1 of the reasons people say he isnt the goat. And, yes the rest of his team wasn't shit that's why they were consitently top 6 in internationals. Its a team game, but it wasnt just buzz and stax on the team, Rb, Foxy9, and zest havent won since. And, quick math 2<3. So, no Mako isn't the only reason they haven't won again its a team game.

I know but its still funny asf that its almost the same fucking game

pANcada has 1 trophy champs 2022
Karon has 1 trophy masters 2, 2023
no one gives a shit about regionals.
Mako has been to almost every international since 2021, pANcada was not there 2023 or 2024 even if 2023 was not fully his fault due to role issues. Karon might surpass him, but he's played for 1/5 the time mako has and they've missed the same amount of international. And its not like DRX consistently boom out of those. Equating skills to trophies is stupid as shit. Bang isnt a better controller than mako because he won a regional trophy once. CNed isnt as good as aspas because he won champs 2021. There is no controller as consistent as mako in the world. That is why he is the best controller aot

Its the same script ucl getting lazy....

Nitpicking not even series but MAPS is some of the dumbest shit ive ever seen. You can do this for any player. No other controller has been at the top as long as he has. Of course his acs and adr arent high he plays his life like a controller should. Controllers should die the least out of anyone on their team trying to use this as a reason why he is "bad" is dumb asf