lol
He was one of the very few people that played Kayo in 2021. SO idk if that counts. And he is mid now.
instead of ethan on both kayo and skye id wanna throw D4vids name in the ring for best skye
i agree, i know skyes an initiator but I don't think that the goat of a character can have a negative all time kd on it
i think that derke should be up there for raze, he literally won an event playing raze only
Ik it's been ages but sick takes both pheonix and sage for me, his sage Play was incredible and imo still hasn't been bested, pheonix is a bit more in the air tho
should be tuyz. he and saadhak are the only reason people play harbor at all, plus they invented harbor viper meta
Jett - Sacy
Raze - mwzera
Reyna - aspas
Neon - Saadhak
Phoenix - qck
Yoru - gtn
bro literally just aimed, his omen tech was mid and he isn't a pure smokes player, i can name atleast 5-10 better omen players all time
trexx is hella underrated for sova. fries out crazy every tournament hes on him. maybe not as good as leo but def up for consideration
i mean yeah he hasnt but hes consistently shined. If he was on fnc or another team with good firepower/strats he def could've. again not taking the title away from leo, just saying maybe he should share it with trexx
dude Trexx hasn't won a single event
Leo is in the debate for one of the greatest of all time
Trexx isn't even like top 10 Sovas of all time
every time trexx plays sova his stats are among the highest in the tourney, leo was alright in 2022 but only made his name 2023 onwards, where in 2024 he fell off. Leo is great, but so it trexx
how did Leo fall off in 2024 lmao? He was statistically the best player
he only stopped playing because of a sickness
also don't even compare trexx to Leo its straight up delusional
i dont care just leave ur wrong
Leo falling sick resulted in him not doing well and him as well as fnc falling off
Yes, he stopped playing bc of his sickness, im not disagreeing
I literally offered evidence that trexx can go par for par with leo
If you dont want to actually discuss then dont rage post, accept that even if you disagree, youre wrong and just tilting on vlr wont make you any more correct
i dont care if Trexx is currently on par with Leo
my post was the goat of every agent
which is the greatest of all time
im not saying Trexx isn't good im just saying hes not the goat of sova when theres far more prestigious sova players that have done way more than him
if trexx is and has been on par with leo, which you claim is the goat, how come others are "far more prestigious"?
make it make sense
because Leo has been more consistent and won multiple events on Sova while trexx has won nothing?
again im not trying to say trexx is bad im just saying hes not anywhere near the goat debate yet
imo skye would be cauanzin not ethan, every time i think of skye i think of cauan and vice versa, and hes also good as well
skye - cauanzin
harbor - tuyz
viper - less (indisputably)
killjoy - less/alfajer
neon - spikezin (arguable bc he's too young and is coming from ascension but idc)
Raze is jaw
Viper is Less
KJ is also Less
and the one true Yoru king is Eggster
i was thinking sacy sova for sure right
sacy was insane on recon inish
also sacy was incredible on sova for 3 straight years
leo was good but 2022 and 2024 weren't good years for his team
Although sinatraa is not in pro scene but his sova is the best. best util user.
id put simon as the goat of breach, or even kayo. his util is just so helpful for kangkang to win
best initiator like other ppl use util for themselves but simon puts every piece of util for team
harbor should be tuyz imo, first harbor to master the agent and made it a meta on pearl
I feel like alfajer doesn't make sense for cypher since he hardly plays the agent anymore and has a much better killjoy. I think vo0shaku, nAts, and Flashback all have better cyphers. I think what made alfajer so good at cypher is how good he is at aiming rather than his util(Though he still has pretty good util, just not on the level or other cyphers like nAts).
Heybay deadlock cooked Lev, also harbor without mentioning Tuyz? Neon goat is Rb bro was cooking people way before she was broken. Hottake but i think chichoo is the goat cypher
Fade - Leo/Shao
ngl shao diffed prime yay chamber with fade while lifting a trophy and cauanzin diffed leo with fade i just dont think leo is comparable to both on that agent idk if its based on his lotus gameplay but you might have shady memories because his best agents on 2023 always were sova and skye