lol
Soddalele [#6]instead of ethan on both kayo and skye id wanna throw D4vids name in the ring for best skye
i agree, i know skyes an initiator but I don't think that the goat of a character can have a negative all time kd on it
burritx [#15]Jett - Sacy
Raze - mwzera
Reyna - aspas
Neon - Saadhak
Phoenix - qck
Yoru - gtn
Vyse - Inspire
kfan4238173 [#2]Kayo - zeek
Champs mvp vs champs cheerleader
He was one of the very few people that played Kayo in 2021. SO idk if that counts. And he is mid now.
Soddalele [#6]instead of ethan on both kayo and skye id wanna throw D4vids name in the ring for best skye
Might as well say starxo
Two_Percent [#31]trexx is hella underrated for sova. fries out crazy every tournament hes on him. maybe not as good as leo but def up for consideration
i said goat lol trexx hasnt even won an event
Pixalfv [#32]i said goat lol trexx hasnt even won an event
i mean yeah he hasnt but hes consistently shined. If he was on fnc or another team with good firepower/strats he def could've. again not taking the title away from leo, just saying maybe he should share it with trexx
Level [#10]s0m harbor💀
should be tuyz. he and saadhak are the only reason people play harbor at all, plus they invented harbor viper meta
Two_Percent [#33]i mean yeah he hasnt but hes consistently shined. If he was on fnc or another team with good firepower/strats he def could've. again not taking the title away from leo, just saying maybe he should share it with trexx
dude Trexx hasn't won a single event
Leo is in the debate for one of the greatest of all time
Trexx isn't even like top 10 Sovas of all time
Pixalfv [#44]dude Trexx hasn't won a single event
Leo is in the debate for one of the greatest of all time
Trexx isn't even like top 10 Sovas of all time
every time trexx plays sova his stats are among the highest in the tourney, leo was alright in 2022 but only made his name 2023 onwards, where in 2024 he fell off. Leo is great, but so it trexx
Two_Percent [#48]every time trexx plays sova his stats are among the highest in the tourney, leo was alright in 2022 but only made his name 2023 onwards, where in 2024 he fell off. Leo is great, but so it trexx
how did Leo fall off in 2024 lmao? He was statistically the best player
he only stopped playing because of a sickness
also don't even compare trexx to Leo its straight up delusional
i dont care just leave ur wrong
Pixalfv [#49]how did Leo fall off in 2024 lmao? He was statistically the best player
he only stopped playing because of a sickness
also don't even compare trexx to Leo its straight up delusional
i dont care just leave ur wrong
Leo falling sick resulted in him not doing well and him as well as fnc falling off
Yes, he stopped playing bc of his sickness, im not disagreeing
I literally offered evidence that trexx can go par for par with leo
If you dont want to actually discuss then dont rage post, accept that even if you disagree, youre wrong and just tilting on vlr wont make you any more correct
Two_Percent [#50]Leo falling sick resulted in him not doing well and him as well as fnc falling off
Yes, he stopped playing bc of his sickness, im not disagreeing
I literally offered evidence that trexx can go par for par with leo
If you dont want to actually discuss then dont rage post, accept that even if you disagree, youre wrong and just tilting on vlr wont make you any more correct
i dont care if Trexx is currently on par with Leo
my post was the goat of every agent
which is the greatest of all time
im not saying Trexx isn't good im just saying hes not the goat of sova when theres far more prestigious sova players that have done way more than him
silver5 [#47]id put simon as the goat of breach, or even kayo. his util is just so helpful for kangkang to win
best initiator like other ppl use util for themselves but simon puts every piece of util for team
Pixalfv [#51]i dont care if Trexx is currently on par with Leo
my post was the goat of every agent
which is the greatest of all time
im not saying Trexx isn't good im just saying hes not the goat of sova when theres far more prestigious sova players that have done way more than him
if trexx is and has been on par with leo, which you claim is the goat, how come others are "far more prestigious"?
make it make sense
Two_Percent [#53]if trexx is and has been on par with leo, which you claim is the goat, how come others are "far more prestigious"?
make it make sense
because Leo has been more consistent and won multiple events on Sova while trexx has won nothing?
again im not trying to say trexx is bad im just saying hes not anywhere near the goat debate yet
kfan4238173 [#2]Kayo - zeek
Champs mvp vs champs cheerleader
He's not even the godfather kayo. That's scream.
Pixalfv [#54]because Leo has been more consistent and won multiple events on Sova while trexx has won nothing?
again im not trying to say trexx is bad im just saying hes not anywhere near the goat debate yet
he is very near the goat debate, just bc he hasnt won anything doesnt mean he cant contend. For example someone like mako would probably be the goat of smokes, bc hes been consistently good on astra, omen, viper, and brim for 3 years straight, even though drx/vs hasnt ever won anything
Two_Percent [#57]he is very near the goat debate, just bc he hasnt won anything doesnt mean he cant contend. For example someone like mako would probably be the goat of smokes, bc hes been consistently good on astra, omen, viper, and brim for 3 years straight, even though drx/vs hasnt ever won anything
thats different because Mako has consistently been one of the best controllers for years and hes had many good finishes in pacific and on lan
trexx wasn't even the best sova at any point in his career
Pixalfv [#59]thats different because Mako has consistently been one of the best controllers for years and hes had many good finishes in pacific and on lan
trexx wasn't even the best sova at any point in his career
but i'm arguing that he has...
are you seeing what im trying to say, or are you just intentionally taking shots in the dark??
Two_Percent [#60]but i'm arguing that he has...
are you seeing what im trying to say, or are you just intentionally taking shots in the dark??
if thats what ur arguing then ur objectively wrong
xineFso [#20]L list omen without Tenz is crazy
bro literally just aimed, his omen tech was mid and he isn't a pure smokes player, i can name atleast 5-10 better omen players all time
Pixalfv [#61]if thats what ur arguing then ur objectively wrong
there we go. if you cant understand my argument and just disagree then dont try and converse. just move on if an opinion other than yours seems to kill you
I feel like alfajer doesn't make sense for cypher since he hardly plays the agent anymore and has a much better killjoy. I think vo0shaku, nAts, and Flashback all have better cyphers. I think what made alfajer so good at cypher is how good he is at aiming rather than his util(Though he still has pretty good util, just not on the level or other cyphers like nAts).
Fade - Leo/Shao
ngl shao diffed prime yay chamber with fade while lifting a trophy and cauanzin diffed leo with fade i just dont think leo is comparable to both on that agent idk if its based on his lotus gameplay but you might have shady memories because his best agents on 2023 always were sova and skye
Two_Percent [#66]there we go. if you cant understand my argument and just disagree then dont try and converse. just move on if an opinion other than yours seems to kill you
i dont at all care about your "argument" because you are factually wrong
Pixalfv [#71]i dont at all care about your "argument" because you are factually wrong
"factually" bro this is a vlr thread about who we THINK is the goat, it's an opinion (which can be backed up by facts, like i have done), but at the end of the day there is no factual goat my guy
Two_Percent [#72]"factually" bro this is a vlr thread about who we THINK is the goat, it's an opinion (which can be backed up by facts, like i have done), but at the end of the day there is no factual goat my guy
u can literally go look at Leos stats vs Trexx stats lol
also Leo has 2 international trophies and was literally the MVP of Lock//in