- F0rsaken (Wonder of Flex)
- Aspas (Wonder of Duelist)
- Leo (Wonder of Initiator)
- Primmie (Wonder of Mechanical)
- nAts (Wonder of Sentinel)
- Zander (Wonder of Controller)
- Fns (Wonder of Gamesense)
Pretty sure you snuck only to what you have seen and not to pay attention to what you have not seen
this is just reality bro you cant sneak someone into a list like this purely off potential and theres people with more potential than zander
So just tell who? And how you said its more potential? By his achievement with his team?
Omg kids nowadays
bro ok i get zander was an igl so his performance fell off but hes still in tier 2 and like karon put up impressive stats on big stages and has been a pro for less time plus persia from spg is lgl also and he's fragging out way better than zander was on igl while being a complete amateur in val
Francis was igl but besides that i still rate persia higher than Zander tbh even Bang imo bcs he was more consistent in T1 than Zander
Chronicle > Forsaken
I think zander is the goat too but he's been getting ignored by orgs for some reason so we'll have to see this year but 100t are shit so we won't see anything
There is 1 thing that Chronicle has never done as a flex, being the main caller/IGL
There is 1 thing that forsaken has never done as a flex, winning a title
chronicle the OG flex god: 3 trophies
f0rsaken the "wonder of flex" : 0 trophies
no way your logical way of thinking is by comparing team achievements rather than assessing what the individual really has
and what sense does this make 💀 streets will never forget forsakens peak
lmao last year chronicle played better and had better stats than forsaken ever had
but chronicles team was performing better which often means you have better stats
wonder of flex having an astounding 0 assists on fucking breach
https://www.vlr.gg/378677/edward-gaming-vs-paper-rex-valorant-champions-2024-decider-d/?game=180412&tab=overview
even if you dont consider chronicles achievment his flex abilites are way higher than f0rsaken
f0rsaken only appears to be a good flex is because hes mechanically good. he just taps heads and people think hes good on that agent. he isnt a good flex, hes just a good player. chronicles proficiency on multiple agents are way higher and deeper than those of f0rsaken
stupid reasoning, trophies is team achievement
but when decide who better player at roles, it shouldn't matter
like telling boaster is better controller than mako cause he have 0 trophies
There is no "too early" to see how he shoots and moves. It's absolutely a miracle
The only real match he won was against TS. It's absolutely a miracle
and nats?? hes good but past 2 years he has not made a deep run or have a outstanding performance in a big tournament
Snuck in Primmie like we would not notice. Demon1, Tenz, Aspas, Yay, Something, KangKang etc (The list goes on and on) are much better than him. Even his highlights don't make him any better than these players.
so how do you explain to me when Tenz himself admits that primmie is the best player in terms of mechanics
He said Tenz best mechanics when Tenz himself said its Primmie, so why not?
but if you don't need any word from tenz, it just requires you to open both of your eyes clearly to see how primmie shoots, moves, and positions himself
I have and hes definitely not the best in mechanics. Hes good but nothing absolutely crazy special. https://www.twitch.tv/primmieq
Also if he's that good, other better teams will try to pick him up so he can leave Talon who won't even make it far.
Good answer. Good players do not make good scouts. Which is why we have separate roles as coaches and scouts.
lmao what , whats wrong with that less has constantly performed better than nats
fns literally got 10 sec defuse stuck by sushiboys of all people and you say he got gamesense?
Again, how can people think z0nder is better than karon, mindfreak, smoggy...??
Z0nder
bro's out here watching Fnatic comms videos hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
bumster defenders are shameless
Flair won the only tournament of 2023 that mattered while twerkster was getting dismantled by chaadhak
So you support a shitty org more than the players who won that tournament? lol
Living in the past mate
W org that gave lesser known players the chance to shine
Unlike Lnatic that is permanently sabotaging aspiring players' careers to find the right mix of people to carry their bum franchise player that doesn't know how to use his mouse and thinks more words = better calling
getting sold by bumdiss fraudmea paycheck stealer 😭😭😭😭
maybe if shitnatic was less worried about GOAT NA IGL and more worried about GOAT South NA IGL they wouldn't have been on a short flight home with no achievements 😭😭😭😭😭
Either way both clear the tiktok mickey mouse fraud cryster and so does Boostio
Boaster MAYBE top 20 IGL all time and that's being generous, and bottom 20 player to ever step foot on a Riot stage
He literally micromanages the team like he’s playing a turn based strategy game.