Actual Tierlist from someone that knows.

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Liwus

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Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.

Tier S - Best in Region :

G2 , EDG, Heretics, T1

Tier A - Expected to make internationals/Keep Form:

Krü, Sentinels, MIBR, Leviatan, Fnatic (with Leo), FUT, Vitality, DRX, GenG, Paper Rex, Talon

Tier B - Unproven but can be good:

NRG, 100T, LOUD, Cloud9, GiantX, Navi, DFM, Nongshin Redforce, RRQ, Team Secret

Tier C - I dont believe in them:

2G, Furia, BBL, Karmine Corp, GentleMates, Team Liquid, Global Esports

Tier D - Should be happy with a couple of wins:

EG, Apeks, KOI, BOOM, Zeta

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Actually decent, id put EG in C tier though, People forget EG at the start of 2023 were bums. My goat yay is back

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Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.
Tier S - Best in Region :
EDG

Idk why I found this funny

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Only wanted to get one of them at Tier S, because of one per region, I dont know how strong the others are atm. But I get it

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how tf u snip out pieces of original post like this

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-Copy the text you want to quote
-Click the quote button (8th button above text box with this symbol --> " )
-Paste the text (edit the text if you would like as I did)
-Post!

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putting talon and kru on the same tier as sen and Geng/PRX is criminal tho

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Talon kept their lineup from last year and this time they are going with primmie as full time duelist so it’s not that bit of a stretch and KRU is just KRU yk they are gonna be worse in the first 2 int then somehow manage to make champs just to get grouped

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that's exactly why putting them on the same tier as sen and pacific top teams is wrong

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Liwus

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Well they fit the description of the tier, and are on the highest tier (outside top teams). I get why you would disagree if I simply put them on the same tier with no explanation, but I also actually am high on Krupium

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yeah it fits the definition of the tier, but then it means the description in itself is a problem, cuz you objectively can't power rank them on the same tier when one gets grouped and the other will likely finish top 5 of several events

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but its not overall where ppl will be/who will beat who its based upon that criteria. youre taking it out of the context. i think the tier list shouldnt have the rankings next to it tho

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uuh eg very low

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EG was the worst team in NA last season, and this season they’ve only downgraded

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MrBlooBloom

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0/8, how do you even want anyone to believe this ?

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jawg is an amazing player

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you still here 😭

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Harapan845

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yup

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bro does not know shit

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Pretty good imo,
NRG in B while Vitality, MIBR in A doesnt make sense to me.

doubts (being a skeptic here)
Vitality - sayf Igl, kicks, ego/comms.
Mibr - Other than Aspas and maybe nzr, others need to prove.

Dfm and zeta gap can't be that much. EG way too low.

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I dont know Mada and Verno very well, the meta right now doesnt leave much to midrounding (neon/exec heavy), which is where FNS shines the most, and Ethan was kinda meh last year. S0m is great, they have potential.

In the end its my personal opnion, but I have faith in Vitality and MIBR (i'm br so I know these players more and trust in them).

And I really think Zeta is doomed this season, and so is EG ( all the other teams got much better, they got worse).

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alienista1

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Don't Mada and Verno also need to prove themselves? What did they do in Tier 1?

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You are underestimating KOI they are at the same level as GX, TL, M8 and BBL

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Liwus

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I think GiantX > these ones, but maybe KOI is the same level as others, just an early/pred tierlist

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xaib

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yeah i agree with you, i feel like GiantX could be so good

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Tier E - MIBR (baiter)

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why hate on a dead team man 😭 , let them rest

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Because I will be hate watching mibr next whole season

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I'd put TS on C, other than that. PERFECT list.

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Liwus

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I've had a soft spot for TS since Lock/In after they shat on team liquid

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Sentifrauds lower for obvious reason

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cloudberry

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"Someone that knows" is a very pretentious way to present yourself

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Liwus

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I dont mind being seen as that, I hate the value people give to the whole humbleness thing anyway

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cloudberry

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You're saying that as if being humble is a negative character trait

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it also might be the worst tier list ive seen

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Azzelastia

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Trash Heretics 😹😹😹😹

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GenG that low is criminal. They got an upgrade from lakia -> yoman and downgrade from meteor -> foxy
solo and hsk are still goated coaches, and karon + t3xture can deadlift games

100t is not good. they should be bottom of B

how is mibr > nrg when u haven't seen mibr play. NRG at least showed some demos that they have a system in place
Nzr is good yeah, and aspas is pulling the other bums, but theres no shot they are making any international

EG are severely underrated. idk why u don't have faith in potter . . . even last year's EG did relatively well with a few bums, this year they got clear upgrades

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The teams are not in order inside the tiers, they even go americas, emea, apac, so GenG is on the highest tier, only bellow T1 when it comes to APAC, I agree that they are pretty good.

Once again, they aren't in order of how good they are, but I did almost put 100T on C.

I think they are making internationals.

I dont think that a team that lost Jawgemo (2nd best americas player imo) made an upgrade, but they can prove me wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

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If you are calling B tier “Unproven but could be good” and then put EG in D tier, you obviously don’t know. This roster fits the bill precisely, all players have something to prove and most are trying to turn their career around after bad coaches/teams (Derrek, YAY, Icy)

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EG is not unproven. they are proven bad. Same roster that did nothing last year, with the devastating loss of Jawgemo that they replaced with Sym/Icy (both not very tier1 material and a massive downgrade, but at least icy don't compromise anything), and replacing Apoth with Yay (which is a upgrade but we'il have to see how much of it because yay haven't been good in 2 years, and if it will compensate for jawgemo's loss). Only undeniably good of this team is potter but she can't make miracles as we seen this season lol

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I dont believe they will be good. And wtf, who was bad for Icy? Coach or Team?

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Hows MIbr not on unproven or even lower with nzr and artzin in the roster

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Liwus

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Aspas gets any team at least 1 tier higher

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No good

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Agree with the exception i think MIBR and Furia both are tier B and C9 is tier C (dont watch that much of emea apac and china to form an opinion)

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Finally a decent tier list

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agreed

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Karmine Corps roster has potential... they just need to apply better strats from what we've seen during off season.
M8 has an empty roster so there's nothing to expect. Loud??? idk wtf they're doing. Apeks also have an empty roster.

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n4rrate has worded into your brain

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Ngl, really good. Nrg B is crazy tho