Funny you say after buzz and jawgemo but I would argue he is rn better as an individual than both.

I would put chronicle higher and remove shao and add Ethan.

Honestly even tho its supposed to be a bait I think its true at least for G2 and Sen , mibr in stage 1 had a gap between them and top 2.

nothing well not until they face each other if we are being realistic but if I were to use the same logic as OP then Sen beat G2 who did beat TL in bangkok , sounds absurd right? that is exactly my point

Bro is still holding to that 13-1 , Sen lost to KRU in the earlier matches does that mean they are worse than kru? make it make sense pls

unc noticed the thread

I mean sure that goes as well but I personally think consistency >

It's gotta be meteor for best asian player since he won masters in different meta on 2 different teams

some teams are just good matched , the style of mibr is really agrressive which is G2's stronghold

valyn is good but he is no where close to in terms of the numbers boostio was pulling in that champs run

greatest igl in the history of valorant to never win an international yikes.

Zekken is clearly an immensly better yoru which is the most needed duelist in this meta so idk about aspas being individually better. sure his jett is better and his raze looks good as well but neon and yoru which is the current meta goes to zekken.

Sentinels is not getting better with aspas they already are a better team and zekken is him rn , if you are saying as a cc then no coz he is not signing for sen maybe a brazilian org when he wants to

or maybe tenz was THAT guy at the start of the valorant whereas aspas came a year too late , he is still tenz lvl famous tho so idk why you think this way its not always about brazilians yk.

People make 5-6 alt accounts then create weird bait threads and then upvote themselves and just downvote anyone who disagrees with them. I know like 5-6 people who do this. I just want to ask this why do you guys care so much to get validation on a esports forum that you spend time creating and managing multiple accounts. Its really silly and I think there time should be well spent elsewhere.

both switch between tejo and breach don't really think its n4rrate rather john who wants to be on more active initiator instead or whatever he deems is more with pack on that map.

let's not act like its 50% from sen fans when literally everyone on this site is doing it , I be seeing some tejjosim comments everywhere and they are not from Sen flairs

not really , I would say he is perfectly rated with a slight tilt to being underrated.

Yeah now that I think about it he never had a bad year even in 2023 when Sen were ass he was frying and then he went nuts in 2024 and now he looks even better in 2025. The guy is just a beast

G2 vs Sen match as well was a banger.

Me when a team relies on it's players individual skills to win: GASP

I guess he had a life game against C9 as well and before that he had a life game against 2g as well

4 of sen player were negative so not a good argument.

or G2 loses to Mibr in lowers which gives Mibr confidence to pull 2 maps lead on Sen to only get reverse sweep which give Sen fake confidence in Toronto to lose their first match then make a lower bracket run till grand finals where they meet TL who themselves got fake confidence from making a clean run from uppers to get down 0-2 in maps which then give sen fake confidence to close out due to which they choke and TL gets 2 maps and its the last map and due to the momentum it gives team liquid fake confidence which then SEN closes it out to win masters toronto. mibr places 3rd and G2 5-6

sen wanted to get out as quick as possible from that mickey mouse tourney.

it would be disastrous to have masters toronto in post-nerf. all the teams have to change up their comps and even after that they will not be tested so they wouldn't know whats good or whats bad. its like 90% that they play on pre-nerf tejo.

first map was 13-7 and second was 13-11 , honestly there wasn't a point apart from 2-3 rounds on split where mibr looked like the better team.

Zellsis shows up when it matters so it doesn't matters.

shows the dominance, a guy on sen doesn't even needs to get a kill to win.

0/0 try harder.

its a player peripheral problem so I don't think this one is riot's fault.

why are you being so defensive , its not that serious.

he never had it ever since he came back as a full cc , might be one of the agreements with sentinels where he would want to put up his sponsors.

sure , 30% chance of losing

they dont really need to make a run to Grand Finals , just secure lower finals.

Yeah so whoever loses and gets B will def ban ascent before it becomes the decider map. to make sure the other team cant play defense on it.

he was not helping kap , he told it on reddit that it was just a joke between friends.

neither team is picking ascent , cause everyone wants to play defense first or not play at all.

mibr is not picking split , Sen lost split due to nerves essentially and mostly getting hard anti strated by G2 , mibr is not a Hard anti-strat team. and why would they even pick Sen's 2nd best map rather than just floating it.

imo its more likely to be

Sen ban icebox
mibr ban split
Sen picks haven
mibr picks lotus
sen ban fracture
mibr ban ascent/pearl (most probably ascent since sen can go defense on it)
pearl remains

what record? if you are referring to how many times G2 and Sen played each other then thats 7 matches. and its officially 4-3 but if you are including the G2 win where Sen needed 1 map to win and after that they started just selling the bundle. if we be for real then its 3-4 in Sen favour.

I agree lowkey kaplan is better than kaplan , idk why people say this is delusional take

I mean if we consider last year then this was probably the best rivalry. They played each other 6 times last year and its 3-3 rn (including afreeca tv).
funny thing is whoever wins the first always loses the 2nd rematch.

First time seeing this and thats fked up from the brazilian fans , like the guy is giving his condolence to the lives lost in the earthquake and they are bitching about aspas and champs.

Sen players were playing individually worse apart from bang in that G2 match and they still won so if even 3 of them bang , narrate and zekken lock in for the last 2 matches , Sen wins stage 1.

Verno does NOT hard diffs Narrate. Delusional take

dep ??!?

dude what , what match were you watching?

Sen had the harder path in playoff compared to mibr so idk about that.

why is this downvoted ? Sen just beat the best team in their region and FNATIC looking like one of the best if not the best team in the region. it's totally plausible that both of these get a by from winning their respective stage 1 and make a run in toronto.

Sen is definetly banning icebox not because they are bad on it but because its mibr best map.