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Actual Tierlist from someone that knows.

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#1
Liwus

I do

Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.

Tier S - Best in Region :

  • G2 , EDG, Heretics, T1

Tier A - Expected to make internationals/Keep Form:

  • Krü, Sentinels, MIBR, Leviatan, Fnatic (with Leo), FUT, Vitality, DRX, GenG, Paper Rex, Talon

Tier B - Unproven but can be good:

  • NRG, 100T, LOUD, Cloud9, GiantX, Navi, DFM, Nongshin Redforce, RRQ, Team Secret

Tier C - I dont believe in them:

  • 2G, Furia, BBL, Karmine Corp, GentleMates, Team Liquid, Global Esports

Tier D - Should be happy with a couple of wins:

  • EG, Apeks, KOI, BOOM, Zeta
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W

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Twentytwo
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Actually decent, id put EG in C tier though, People forget EG at the start of 2023 were bums. My goat yay is back

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JawXG
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Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.
Tier S - Best in Region :
EDG

Idk why I found this funny

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MrBlooBloom
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putting talon and kru on the same tier as sen and Geng/PRX is criminal tho

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SuperRoss
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uuh eg very low

#7
lxolotl
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bro does not know shit

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MrBlooBloom [#5]

putting talon and kru on the same tier as sen and Geng/PRX is criminal tho

Talon kept their lineup from last year and this time they are going with primmie as full time duelist so it’s not that bit of a stretch and KRU is just KRU yk they are gonna be worse in the first 2 int then somehow manage to make champs just to get grouped

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Pretty good imo,
NRG in B while Vitality, MIBR in A doesnt make sense to me.

doubts (being a skeptic here)
Vitality - sayf Igl, kicks, ego/comms.
Mibr - Other than Aspas and maybe nzr, others need to prove.

Dfm and zeta gap can't be that much. EG way too low.

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Sinbad_1389 [#8]

Talon kept their lineup from last year and this time they are going with primmie as full time duelist so it’s not that bit of a stretch and KRU is just KRU yk they are gonna be worse in the first 2 int then somehow manage to make champs just to get grouped

that's exactly why putting them on the same tier as sen and pacific top teams is wrong

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SuperRoss [#6]

uuh eg very low

EG was the worst team in NA last season, and this season they’ve only downgraded

#12
Liwus
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JawXG [#4]

Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.
Tier S - Best in Region :
EDG

Idk why I found this funny

Only wanted to get one of them at Tier S, because of one per region, I dont know how strong the others are atm. But I get it

#13
MrBlooBloom
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EG was the worst team in NA last season, and this season they’ve only downgraded

0/8, how do you even want anyone to believe this ?

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Harapan845
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MrBlooBloom [#13]

0/8, how do you even want anyone to believe this ?

jawg is an amazing player

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Liwus
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MrBlooBloom [#10]

that's exactly why putting them on the same tier as sen and pacific top teams is wrong

Well they fit the description of the tier, and are on the highest tier (outside top teams). I get why you would disagree if I simply put them on the same tier with no explanation, but I also actually am high on Krupium

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Liwus
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AZDZ [#9]

Pretty good imo,
NRG in B while Vitality, MIBR in A doesnt make sense to me.

doubts (being a skeptic here)
Vitality - sayf Igl, kicks, ego/comms.
Mibr - Other than Aspas and maybe nzr, others need to prove.

Dfm and zeta gap can't be that much. EG way too low.

I dont know Mada and Verno very well, the meta right now doesnt leave much to midrounding (neon/exec heavy), which is where FNS shines the most, and Ethan was kinda meh last year. S0m is great, they have potential.

In the end its my personal opnion, but I have faith in Vitality and MIBR (i'm br so I know these players more and trust in them).

And I really think Zeta is doomed this season, and so is EG ( all the other teams got much better, they got worse).

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MrBlooBloom
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Harapan845 [#14]

jawg is an amazing player

you still here 😭

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MrBlooBloom
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Liwus [#15]

Well they fit the description of the tier, and are on the highest tier (outside top teams). I get why you would disagree if I simply put them on the same tier with no explanation, but I also actually am high on Krupium

yeah it fits the definition of the tier, but then it means the description in itself is a problem, cuz you objectively can't power rank them on the same tier when one gets grouped and the other will likely finish top 5 of several events

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MrBlooBloom [#17]

you still here 😭

yup

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AZDZ [#9]

Pretty good imo,
NRG in B while Vitality, MIBR in A doesnt make sense to me.

doubts (being a skeptic here)
Vitality - sayf Igl, kicks, ego/comms.
Mibr - Other than Aspas and maybe nzr, others need to prove.

Dfm and zeta gap can't be that much. EG way too low.

Don't Mada and Verno also need to prove themselves? What did they do in Tier 1?

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You are underestimating KOI they are at the same level as GX, TL, M8 and BBL

#22
Liwus
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Pato_Galactico [#21]

You are underestimating KOI they are at the same level as GX, TL, M8 and BBL

I think GiantX > these ones, but maybe KOI is the same level as others, just an early/pred tierlist

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Tier E - MIBR (baiter)

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xaib
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Liwus [#22]

I think GiantX > these ones, but maybe KOI is the same level as others, just an early/pred tierlist

yeah i agree with you, i feel like GiantX could be so good

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RIPBOZO [#23]

Tier E - MIBR (baiter)

why hate on a dead team man 😭 , let them rest

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xaib [#25]

why hate on a dead team man 😭 , let them rest

Because I will be hate watching mibr next whole season

#27
Warlordwibz
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I'd put TS on C, other than that. PERFECT list.

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Kirya
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Sentifrauds lower for obvious reason

#29
cloudberry
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"Someone that knows" is a very pretentious way to present yourself

#30
Liwus
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Warlordwibz [#27]

I'd put TS on C, other than that. PERFECT list.

I've had a soft spot for TS since Lock/In after they shat on team liquid

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MrBlooBloom [#18]

yeah it fits the definition of the tier, but then it means the description in itself is a problem, cuz you objectively can't power rank them on the same tier when one gets grouped and the other will likely finish top 5 of several events

but its not overall where ppl will be/who will beat who its based upon that criteria. youre taking it out of the context. i think the tier list shouldnt have the rankings next to it tho

#32
Azzelastia
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Trash Heretics 😹😹😹😹

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j3bx5597
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GenG that low is criminal. They got an upgrade from lakia -> yoman and downgrade from meteor -> foxy
solo and hsk are still goated coaches, and karon + t3xture can deadlift games

100t is not good. they should be bottom of B

how is mibr > nrg when u haven't seen mibr play. NRG at least showed some demos that they have a system in place
Nzr is good yeah, and aspas is pulling the other bums, but theres no shot they are making any international

EG are severely underrated. idk why u don't have faith in potter . . . even last year's EG did relatively well with a few bums, this year they got clear upgrades

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