Actual Tierlist from someone that knows.

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Liwus

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Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.

Tier S - Best in Region :

G2 , EDG, Heretics, T1

Tier A - Expected to make internationals/Keep Form:

Krü, Sentinels, MIBR, Leviatan, Fnatic (with Leo), FUT, Vitality, DRX, GenG, Paper Rex, Talon

Tier B - Unproven but can be good:

NRG, 100T, LOUD, Cloud9, GiantX, Navi, DFM, Nongshin Redforce, RRQ, Team Secret

Tier C - I dont believe in them:

2G, Furia, BBL, Karmine Corp, GentleMates, Team Liquid, Global Esports

Tier D - Should be happy with a couple of wins:

EG, Apeks, KOI, BOOM, Zeta

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Actually decent, id put EG in C tier though, People forget EG at the start of 2023 were bums. My goat yay is back

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Wont rate most chinese teams because I dont follow the region.
Tier S - Best in Region :
EDG

Idk why I found this funny

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Liwus

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Only wanted to get one of them at Tier S, because of one per region, I dont know how strong the others are atm. But I get it

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how tf u snip out pieces of original post like this

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putting talon and kru on the same tier as sen and Geng/PRX is criminal tho

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Talon kept their lineup from last year and this time they are going with primmie as full time duelist so it’s not that bit of a stretch and KRU is just KRU yk they are gonna be worse in the first 2 int then somehow manage to make champs just to get grouped

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that's exactly why putting them on the same tier as sen and pacific top teams is wrong

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Liwus

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Well they fit the description of the tier, and are on the highest tier (outside top teams). I get why you would disagree if I simply put them on the same tier with no explanation, but I also actually am high on Krupium

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yeah it fits the definition of the tier, but then it means the description in itself is a problem, cuz you objectively can't power rank them on the same tier when one gets grouped and the other will likely finish top 5 of several events

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but its not overall where ppl will be/who will beat who its based upon that criteria. youre taking it out of the context. i think the tier list shouldnt have the rankings next to it tho

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uuh eg very low

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EG was the worst team in NA last season, and this season they’ve only downgraded

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MrBlooBloom

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0/8, how do you even want anyone to believe this ?

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jawg is an amazing player

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you still here 😭

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Harapan845

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yup

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bro does not know shit

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Pretty good imo,
NRG in B while Vitality, MIBR in A doesnt make sense to me.

doubts (being a skeptic here)
Vitality - sayf Igl, kicks, ego/comms.
Mibr - Other than Aspas and maybe nzr, others need to prove.

Dfm and zeta gap can't be that much. EG way too low.

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I dont know Mada and Verno very well, the meta right now doesnt leave much to midrounding (neon/exec heavy), which is where FNS shines the most, and Ethan was kinda meh last year. S0m is great, they have potential.

In the end its my personal opnion, but I have faith in Vitality and MIBR (i'm br so I know these players more and trust in them).

And I really think Zeta is doomed this season, and so is EG ( all the other teams got much better, they got worse).

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alienista1

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Don't Mada and Verno also need to prove themselves? What did they do in Tier 1?

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You are underestimating KOI they are at the same level as GX, TL, M8 and BBL

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Liwus

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I think GiantX > these ones, but maybe KOI is the same level as others, just an early/pred tierlist

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xaib

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yeah i agree with you, i feel like GiantX could be so good

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Tier E - MIBR (baiter)

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xaib

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why hate on a dead team man 😭 , let them rest

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RIPBOZO

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Because I will be hate watching mibr next whole season

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I'd put TS on C, other than that. PERFECT list.

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Liwus

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I've had a soft spot for TS since Lock/In after they shat on team liquid

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Sentifrauds lower for obvious reason

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cloudberry

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"Someone that knows" is a very pretentious way to present yourself

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Liwus

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I dont mind being seen as that, I hate the value people give to the whole humbleness thing anyway

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cloudberry

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You're saying that as if being humble is a negative character trait

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Trash Heretics 😹😹😹😹

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GenG that low is criminal. They got an upgrade from lakia -> yoman and downgrade from meteor -> foxy
solo and hsk are still goated coaches, and karon + t3xture can deadlift games

100t is not good. they should be bottom of B

how is mibr > nrg when u haven't seen mibr play. NRG at least showed some demos that they have a system in place
Nzr is good yeah, and aspas is pulling the other bums, but theres no shot they are making any international

EG are severely underrated. idk why u don't have faith in potter . . . even last year's EG did relatively well with a few bums, this year they got clear upgrades

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The teams are not in order inside the tiers, they even go americas, emea, apac, so GenG is on the highest tier, only bellow T1 when it comes to APAC, I agree that they are pretty good.

Once again, they aren't in order of how good they are, but I did almost put 100T on C.

I think they are making internationals.

I dont think that a team that lost Jawgemo (2nd best americas player imo) made an upgrade, but they can prove me wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

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If you are calling B tier “Unproven but could be good” and then put EG in D tier, you obviously don’t know. This roster fits the bill precisely, all players have something to prove and most are trying to turn their career around after bad coaches/teams (Derrek, YAY, Icy)

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EG is not unproven. they are proven bad. Same roster that did nothing last year, with the devastating loss of Jawgemo that they replaced with Sym/Icy (both not very tier1 material and a massive downgrade, but at least icy don't compromise anything), and replacing Apoth with Yay (which is a upgrade but we'il have to see how much of it because yay haven't been good in 2 years, and if it will compensate for jawgemo's loss). Only undeniably good of this team is potter but she can't make miracles as we seen this season lol

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Liwus

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I dont believe they will be good. And wtf, who was bad for Icy? Coach or Team?

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Hows MIbr not on unproven or even lower with nzr and artzin in the roster

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Liwus

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Aspas gets any team at least 1 tier higher

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No good

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Agree with the exception i think MIBR and Furia both are tier B and C9 is tier C (dont watch that much of emea apac and china to form an opinion)

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Finally a decent tier list