A female valorant player has never made it tier 1 or even tier 2 for that fact i think. Is there a reason for that?
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Are Woman Biologically Worse than Men at Valorant?
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this woman disproves your entire argument, she is one of the most cracked overwatch players i’ve ever seen
dawg you were shown proof that women can hang with the male pros and it is not like she was just ok she was dominating. what she should have been was a stepping stone for more women to play video games professionally but mostly likely due to the misogyny in esports and video games as a whole they have not.
she is the perfect example of why woman aren’t prevalent in a lot of esports, it is not an issue of skill (as shown by her), it is a cultural issue. The amount of toxicity she faced during her overwatch tenure was INSANE. Why put yourself through so much toxicity and abuse for a shitty pay grade. Women are capable of all the things men do gaming wise, but there is no incentive for them to compete.
well first off pro women have competed in tier 1, remember potter?
and also, that is not a logical statement. You are conflating correlation and causation. Less women in tier 1 does not prove that women are "biologically and physically worse at almost every aspect in gaming." You drew that conclusion yourself.
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The reason none have made it is because none were good enough for it - which doesn't have to do with their biological makeup, but their individual skill.
Some of the best women are almost certainly good enough for t2, but have chosen not to make that leap for various reasons. Some have noted the financial stability of staying in GC as a probable reason.
since nobody is willing to give you an actual proper answer, i'll do it. as far as i know, there's no biological disadvantage for women, but there's 2 reasons why you aren't seeing them in tier 1 play. first, there's just less women interested in esports, so less opportunity for talent. secondly, the only "biological" disadvantage they might have is that women are more emotional, while being more rational is more important in valorant, but shouldn't really be a big deal tbh. i personally think that some gc pros could be in normal t1, but they may just be limited by the fact that gc tourneys are a thing, because no scout would ever look at gc tourneys to find a new player for their team. i think it's mostly that tbh.
As another commentator stated, financial stability may play a role in it too. Who's going to leave the top of GC which probably brings in a good amount of money for a shaky t2 org. Despite this being said, I wish some more took the leap to showcase their abilities and see how the best GC team pairs up against some contenders. As far as ik only SR has tried, but it was disappointing only placing top 32 in tier 2 open quals
OP was 100% baiting, but I think this argument is slightly different and more convincing than the ones you mentioned.
Look at when players like Zekken or older player from CS like Tarik will say they got into FPS, most will say it was playing something like their older brother/father/uncle introducing them to MW2 or CS 1.6 etc..
Go into any GC player, probably not the NB, and ask when they got into FPS and the vast majority will probably say either Valorant, or a little CSGO.
Men have been playing FPS games for nearly a decade longer than most women, and as a result have built up habits, skills, and develop neural pathways in their brain to a level much higher than the average woman.
If you want a good example outside of gaming, find someone who started learning a foreign language for roughly 7 years, compare that to a 7 year old native speaker of that language. Odds are the 7 year old will have a better grasp on the language even though they've learned it for the same amount of time.
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And even of the women that play, i'd say that most of them aren't taking the game as seriously as men generally do. All the girls I personally know that play don't grind comp and prefer to play swiftplay and unrated for the most part. Meanwhile i've been in customs at 3 AM making lineups with the boys.
So yeah when you have a very small talent pool of players that are fully dedicated to competing the chance that you get a t1 talent (there's like what, 40 slots in t1 rn?) is super low.
it does make sense because the 'trans' players actually come from a much larger pool, which like I said in #54, players in that pool also generally take the game more serious as well, making the pool of 'serious players' for that category much larger.
I probably can't use more specific language because it'd get me in trouble, but connect the dots.
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I'll exaggerate it in this example to get the point across:
Consider how many good chinese players there are compared to good rhode islanders. Now imagine a rhode island league meant to develop rhode islanders, but it allows chinese players to play in it. A not particularly elite chinese player could easily dominate the rhode islanders in the league, just because the talent pool in china is much more vast and it would be alot easier to find a player who has that level of talent. But the dominance isn't because of some innate racial advantage of being from china, and it's feasible that a talent could emerge from rhode island that would be better. It's unlikely due to the numbers game, but not impossible.
I mean i dont think much girls were playing CS and Valorant at the age of 8 or 10 (Most of them have different hobbies). And i dont think there are any scientific researches that proves woman have slower reaction speed or worse brain functions than men. Me personally i just think that Men = Women are equal IF they put in the same amount of work and start with the same amount of talent (That is where the gap forms maybe the true talented goat of female valorant never touched valorant)
bait post, but i'll entertain a proper answer.
probably? though i'd put many other factors as more significant first.
i don't think the playerbase disparity paints the full picture - polls show that 30% of valorant players are women, so all other things equal, you'd also expect 30% of t1 valorant pros to be women too. clearly not the case, so something else has to be going on.
i think most of the reason is social - studies have shown that men have a disposition to be more aggressive and assertive when pursuing a high level of competition. whether this disparity is biological or social can be left to the experts, but i'd think that this is what results in such a heavy disparity at the highest level of play.
you could also boil it down to gaming being a really toxic space for women - players around might be less supportive or they may be offered less opportunities to improve - its similar to how, oddly enough, professional sports players tend to be born around september - january (since a couple months of development is a huge difference in early ages, meaning sports coaches support them more or pick them for sports teams etc), despite birth month not leading to any biological difference.
biology i'd probably put as the least significant reason. there may be some inherent differences in reaction speeds and dexterity due to hormones, but i don't think it's like traditional sports where strength and speed is everything. women also dominate in challenging sports which prioritise things that suit their biology (gymnastics, for instance), so I don't think the "spirit of competition" is inherently non-present in women.
This is bait, but I'll bite.
There are reasons why women are "worse" than men at the PRO level.
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Smaller pool of players
Women have always been a minority in the competitive gaming world. Unlike most boys, girls were not encouraged to play video games growing up, especially not FPS games like CS:GO. Because of the lower number of female gamers PLUS the even smaller number of women who grew up playing competitive shooters, there is a smaller pool of talent to work from. -
Toxic Environment
Competitive gaming is typically known as a toxic male-dominated environment. Because of the small pool of female players, it was uncommon to see a woman in your games, thus leading to an anomaly. Because women in gaming stood out due to societal norms, men would harass them by making sexual comments, misogynistic jokes, and just anything to make them uncomfortable. Due to this toxic gaming culture, the pool of women who want to join the gaming community gets even smaller as more and more women face harassment every time they play. This is generally why a lot of girls, including myself, are hesitant to use voice comms or play competitively. It also makes it harder for women to rank up and learn in-game communication skills when they get harassed every time they try to talk.
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