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Any recommendations for a good country to move to?

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guest1305

Currently living in the west and I am becoming very tired of all that goes on here. Despite being raised here, I have no desire to live here any longer. I want to move somewhere simple, where all that is required is that you love your neighbour, pay your bills, and raise your family. Any good countries that are just simple and without drama?

edit - Decided to remove the specific things that I am tired of since a couple of people are assuming my positions.

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juho
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brunei

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thanatos11
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copycat

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juho
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? YOU copied me

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thanatos11
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i was here a year before u

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juho
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erm

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thanatos11
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exactly

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Wolfed
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Iceland or New Zealand
Or just stop giving a fuck about the news

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laeDLaer
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Belarus, Moldova, Albania

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Froggy0_0
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DO NOT GO TO ALBANIA OR MOLDOVA

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Ballsamolee
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Idk about moldova but albanians are a W

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beauu
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albania is a rage fest, so dont. try some scandinavian country. if u have the funds, go switzerland.

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Ballsamolee
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maybe. whenever i went there for a bit the people were kind of rude, but when they figured out im from america they were really nice 💀💀💀

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TheBigBoiPenguin
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as an albanian, dont move there please 😭

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NexusNomad
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Unironically sri lanka is a great place. The only problem you might face is food. Other than that it is a great place.

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_Esdeath_
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no pls dont move here. its bad. Crashing economy, terrible job market and its pretty dirty (not india levels no offense). The people are mostly cool and friendly here tho.
If anything, the food is one of the better things about the country.

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Oh shoot I forgot about the economy but I had been there last may and it was such a beautiful place that when I came back to my house I started to miss sri lanka. I really loved it and would love to visit it once again some where in the future and also to visit sigiriya because I missed it due to unavoidable circumstances.

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Sri Lanka is great as a tourist destination I agree. If you do end up coming back here, feel free to ask for places to visit. There are a lotta cool things to see :)

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Froggy0_0
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move to iceland

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TooCaution_Heartless
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thailand is the best place in the world

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vnvodich
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Israel or Ukraine

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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Grass is greener on the other side brother. I want to live in the west or Japan because I have rose tinted glasses about them too, but you need to be able to see past that. You need to know the pros and cons of living in a country. If you can only see the pros then I suggest just stay in your own country. Heck I know one day I'm staying there forever but I need to prepare myself for what's to come first.

Do you want to experience anti foreigner sentiment in 3rd world country(being used as a political tool)? Or do you prefer getting a preferential treatment because they think " westerners = rich people"?

Hot take , you guys love to whine a lot but you guys have it good out there.

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guest1305
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I don't know man, you might be right and I could just be feeling recency bias, but I only see a decline in the future of my home country.

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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I suggest that you should consume less news media, because from what you just posted , I will have to assume that you're not complaining about your Financials, you're complaining about the political climates. I can ensure you that every country has its own political dramas .

I'm not saying to avoid news entirely, it's just you should either know the essentials ( if you wanna live a relaxing life(probably)) or understand it's deeper meaning and nuances.

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guest1305
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I actually do avoid the news to get some peace but when I go to work the news is all I hear about from co-workers. It also doesn't help that a lot of people around me seem to hold strong views and look at you as an enemy when you don't agree. You are right that it is a political thing so it probably isn't just a western problem but surely some places are still less inflammatory than others.

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Nah I'm my country there's a certain thing you cannot say be it political or religious ( yes , the place where I live they take religion seriously if not too serious in my opinion), even if you are objectively right a lot of people can be just as inflammatory as in the west. It's just the west and the rest have different priority and set of beliefs. So it's not that different 😂

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France maybe, just don't go in Paris, it's overrated i think, maybe in France you can go in Angers, Annecy or Nice... Appart from France, maybe Iceland, Japan, Switzerland...

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Consider something in Asia
Eg Japan or Korea ( South) U can live in peace there at least for now

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cloudberry
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That's a genuinely tough question to answer. Because every country has major drawbacks, whether it be a new language or high taxes or anything like that, and you're always suseptible to culture shock.

With that aside, though, Nordic countries are very peaceful and isolated for the most part. They're called some of the happiest countries in the world for a reason. A lot of their languages are also fairly similar to English, so they should be easier to learn than Russian or Arabic, for example.

As for which country, I'd have to recommend Denmark. It's the most proficient country at English, with 90%+ speaking it as a second language. Danish is the closest Nordic language to English, which would make it easier to learn anyway. Denmark also has a lot of greenery, you're never too far from the sea, and I hear the government is supportive. The only major downside I know of is pretty high cost of living, but if you're living in North America you're probably already used to it.

Alternatively, Iceland is also a decent option. It's isolated, it's peaceful, it has an abundance of nature, and it only has a population of a little over 300k, all living near the sea. I'm pretty sure it has the highest taxes in the world, though, so it's not perfect. The reality is, nowhere is perfect.

I wish you luck on your endeavors. Be sure to do your research and take your time to think about things before taking decisions you can't go back on.

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guest1305
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Thanks for the thorough comment, I will look a bit more into Denmark. A few people have recommended Japan but as highly regarded as a place like Japan is, their immigration standards (and opinions of foreigners) make it almost impossible to migrate into their culture.

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Idk why people are saying Japan when one of your big things is raising a family. No one is having kids in Japan due to the insane work culture, and Japanese women don’t like foreigners either so unless you have a wife already it’s hopeless. I’d recommend Sweden as well if you haven’t looked at it

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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Brother like Sweden isn't exactly a good place to stay rn... Denmark is better.

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guest1305
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Well said, added that to my comment above. People forget that Japan's culture has two sides, the side that they show tourists and the side that they live day-to-day. The family thnig is a big one for me, too. I completley understand why a Japanese woman would rather date a Japanese man, but so then why would I go to Japan to try and start a family, right?

Last time I heard about Sweden there was increase in crime unless that's been addressed?

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I'm not too sure about the Japanese women not liking foreigners part. I know a lot of white guys living in Japan and many of them have found it easy to find a Japanese girlfriend. On top of that, heard from some others that if at least you're a white guy you should be good. I can't comment on how finding relationships in Japan as a non-white guy would be though; haven't heard much on it. A couple friends also work for big Japanese tech companies and they haven't made much comment on it either, but I don't know if that's just them keeping it to themselves.

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guest1305
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You know what, I have actually heard of this. Japan supposedly has a thing for "fair skin" so it would make sense that white men are able to date Japanese girls without a problem. Naturally, I would then expect the opposite of white to be less accepted.

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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You've just described east asians in general💀. Hell, even southeast asians aren't that far from this either (to a certain extent).

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guest1305
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Yeah, it spans a wide range of Asia. I specified Japan just because they were the topic but I remember hearing about this phenomenon in America too; something like 50% of all Asian women in America are married to white men, and many Asian women voice preferences for white men. It's a really interesting phenomenon, can't quite decide if it's amusing or a bit sad.

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Japanese people are on average quite racist towards foreigners. I saw someone mentioning France, but France also has a polarising political climate. The same goes for the Netherlands (not mentioned but apart from the political situation nice to live in). I’m not sure about the downsides of living in New Zealand, but the Iceland weather is something to keep in mind (in summer its light 24/7 outside, in winter its dark 24/7).

I agree with #11/#17: every country has drawbacks. We are very lucky to be able to live in the West, where human rights and financial stability are taken for granted!

If you are looking to move, Denmark might be the best option :)

Good luck!

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As a Dutchie I feel olbliged to point out that the country with the highest English proficiency (behind native speaking ones obviously, yet ahead of Canada lmao) is actually the Netherlands, with Singapore second and Austria third, with Denmark coming in fourth. Not to take away from Denmark, it's a great country, and they have us beat in many metrics, just not this one :) Also Denmark is even flatter than the Netherlands, even though their average elevation is higher. The highest point of the country of Denmark is 171m, whereas the highest point of continental Netherlands is 322m (officially it's 887m now that Saba is an actual part of the country, but that feels like cheating).

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Wolfed
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But the polarizing political climate of the Netherlands is exactly what OP is trying to avoid… lol

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Kris
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Sure, but I've heard that the Danes also have some spicy politics of their own, I feel like there's almost no escaping that dance when you're looking at a country to go to within Europe at the moment..

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Wolfed
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True! I’m actually not too familiar with the Danish political situation…

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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Might be wrong, but I think Denmark avoided becoming sweden is precisely because their stance is "spicy". Sweden is too "mild" and they are getting the consequences. I think you understand what I mean 😅

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Kris
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I do 'understand what you mean', I just happen to disagree, which is fine.

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cloudberry
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The Netherlands are also a terrific option—I have family there and they're very happy with how things are going. The one reason I didn't recommend it is it's raining something like 200 days of the year. If he doesn't mind, then it's a good choice, but if he wants to spend a lot of time outside then a different county could be a bit better

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as a norwegian, the danish language will NOT be the easiest to learn, they talk with their throats, norwegian and swedish people can talk to eachother but none of us understand danes even tho the written language is alot the same

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cloudberry
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Didn't know that. Good to know, thank you

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kalayav_n
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Look at the UK and ask your self, are you really oppressed and struggling in america/west?

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guest1305
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Not sure what you're asking. I have known people who moved away from the west (but for different reasons from mine) and have been happier elsewhere even if it is true that they weren't opressed or struggling in the west. These aren't the only standards for a good quality of life.

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Complaining about people asking for basic respect instead of the entire working class getting priced out of places to live is fucking insane. Good luck finding somewhere your little sheltered sensibilities won't be offended.

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guest1305
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This is part of what I am talking about...You don't know my stance on anything but like the average westener, you assume I am offending you and address me with insulting language. Deal with this day-to-day from an entire country and, yes, you might just think of moving somewhere more pleasant.

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Idk, it probably is the part where you feel the need to mention the "pronouns discussion" rather than the past 14 years of tory government, which would actually be the ones that were not listening to the people over and over again, and the reason the UK is flailing like a fish out of water atm. Also education is not "agenda driven", unless you mean trying to embellish some of the dark pages of our own countries' histories (the same is true fot the Netherlands). History is just always viewed through an ever moving lens, or overton window if you will, and naturally it will also move in a way to connect with topics relevant today. The same is true for education as a whole, we are always applying the (new) sensibilities of today to the way we teach our kids. If we 'learn' that queer kids or people are still being discriminated against nowadays, we reflect that when teaching our current school population, when the subject comes up. That's how I see things at least, and you have every right to disagree, but don't be surprised if people take issue with how you chose to phrase or portray certain issues as well :)

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guest1305
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I'm not here to have a political debate...I just listed a couple of recent topics and added "etc" for everything else. My opinion on anything is not the point of this post, nor does my opinion matter.

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Kris
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That's fair, my apologies.

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guest1305
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Thanks for understanding.

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bees
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Here's the thing. I have many friends who are trans or gender non-conforming, and yet I hear about "pronouns" so, so much more from bigoted people because they're the ones who are convinced that it's all some culture war attack on their values. To anyone who actually doesn't care, it's just "oh, you prefer to be called they/them? Cool."

Now I understand you've edited your original post to move the focus away from that. But also understand that you have the luxury of considering these things "political." To anyone who is trans, or gay, or disabled, or any number of other things, it's not so simple to just "love your neighbor and raise your family" when a majority of places in the world are openly hostile to your very existence.

You can consider moving to the UAE because it's a wealthy and low-crime country, but guess who can't?

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guest1305
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I don't disagree with any of what you said. Doesn't change the fact the west is falling apart in general and doesn't change my mind about wanting to move. Like I said to the other guy:

I'm not here to have a political debate...

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I mean every country you go to is gonna have some variation of this. The west is still better than majority of the world in terms of living standards. But I guess New Zealand always seemed like a chill place to me.

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welikefortniteandvalorant
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Right? Somewhere in oceania. Isolated from the world, you dont hear a lot of shit going on there, people are friendly, nature is good. Only downside i see are the insects!

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Aayan
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If you can get a job lined up (for the visa) and it's well paying. The UAE is by far the #1 choice imo. It is one of the few countries where I've actually felt safe. The stories of leaving your laptops and phones in a public place for hours at a time are true.

Now I must say that if you have an issue with living in a country that has a history of dodgy human right practices, it may weigh on your mind a bit. So it depends on whether you're the type of person who has an issue with that.

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Aayan
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In Europe solid choices are Denmark and Austria, although I've only heard about those places and not been there my self. Those countries are renowned for having high taxes if that's an issue for you. NZ is very nice too, but I find it too isolated from the rest of the world, if that's not an issue I would also have a gander there if the UAE isn't your cup of tea.

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guest1305
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Funnily enough, I have a good friend whose planning to move there. I suppose the weight of a history of a country depends on how recent that history is.

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Aayan
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I personally know many people who've moved there. I my self will try and see if I can get a job there as soon as I finish uni. In fact almost every single one of my friends agree that the first priority after uni is to get out of this country.

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6Lemonking9
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as someone from UAE , I approve. also 0 taxes here!!!!!

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y0yster
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Syria

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FireDJVA
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The hardest thing abt living in Denmark is probably learning the language, other than that it’s a great country in terms of infrastructure and living quality I’d say.

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bronzil_enjoyer
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come to madagascar

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Katharize
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Venezuela

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ALoKi007
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I can even change my religion if it means I can stay in Japan.

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Toph_
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Canada Thailand Japan

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PooFaceCe
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No, do not come here

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Toph_
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With all the none sense America is dealing with its inevitable brother. Especially for woman.

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PooFaceCe
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what are u on about

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TheHowling02
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Sounds to me like you just need to move to the countryside

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Denjisideals
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Turkmenistan
I dunno why but I was I studied about them in geography

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number_1_Ego_fan
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Thailand/China

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geospliced
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China underrated

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yuriito
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Brasil

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if a relatively good social life is important to u, move to malaysia. if u just want a peaceful country with no taxes (but hard to get citizenship and no nightlife culture) then brunei. the UAE is not a bad option as well but it depends on how u feel about the culture and views there. and also if u can get a job

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fazepoopy
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Costa Rica is nice, can't comment on how raising a family is there though. Iceland is also lovely, but it's pretty miserable in the winter from what I heard when I was out there this summer.

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SuperRoss
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come to Emilia

#74
acels
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COME TO USA

#75
canopuszz
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Brasília -Brasil, Luxembourg and denmark are good points

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Zaylan
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Definitely not Portugal lol it’s terrible here and only getting worse
I got a friend who moved to the Netherlands not long ago and he is loving it over there
My plan is to do the same to either there or Brussels

#78
dieforfun
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why tf would you ask vlr

#79
Zaylan
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If it’s something off valorant people usually take it serious and help if needed

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guest1305
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Variety of cultures and people are giving serious advice.

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Penang in Malaysia was a popular retirement spot when I was there; cheap but good food and cheap high quality apartments and housing, and mostly everyone speaks english.

20 bucks a month for godspeed internet too

99% of my neighbors were Chinese, Japanese, and British expats or students

Lot of semiconductor sector work: AMD, Intel, etc.

Its hard to get a work visa there though unless your company can convince the government you bring a unique skillset that a native malaysian cannot provide.

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Youju
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Greenland would be probably really nice. Also it's not so hot there.

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Er3ngenes1s
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denmark

#85
KyLZi
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Let me know if you find such a place!

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Harapan845
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dont go to britain

#89
AVE_TRUE_TO_CAESAR
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Any country that doesn't have flouride in water + usury-based economy + racial diversity is a good country to live in imo, to name a few

  • Hungary
  • Finland
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sexocum
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any nordic country ngl

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