When deciding a countries strength

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In valorant, is volume or quality of players more important. Like is it better to be able to field 5 players who can win it all but everyone else shit or be able to field like 4 teams who could hold their own against high level competition but aren't quite good enough to go all the way even as a superteam

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volume

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Would you consider 2022 Brazil or 2022 APAC stronger? At that point loud owned everyone but everyone else in brazil.was kinda cheeks while APAC.was fielding a ton of solid contender teams but just wasn't strong enough to push it over the ledge (APAC is a region ik but thought it was a good comparison)

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i think apac was a better region that year with the first masters having i zeta and paper rex both top four and the next masters paper rex got 2nd and while they prx bombed out at champs drx still got 3rd so overall i would say apac was better that year than brazil since they only had one team

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If we’re talking about that year specifically wouldn’t it be jp > apac kinda like Brazil > na (loud) as far as region rankings go(for that masters/champs period)

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Has to be the latter , to get someone like primmie or meiy you need a miracle, you can't rely on miracle to win you games all the time .

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All I know is that we can make 3 rosters that can contend for champs

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Please share

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Get ready for the most gigawashed gamb0t player rosters

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If I see d3ffo but not jemkin I'm burning his house down

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And kp0 kkkkk

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Itsover

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KPI would easily own shitpac and americas franchise teams

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KPI 26-0 trace

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Zeddy the goat for a reason

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"gigawashed gambot players" are still in top 5 stats shitmea rn btw, also each of them owns entire americas region.

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all the old gambit players are still preforming really well outside of redgar

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D3ffo - in Azkaban
Sheydos - about to get a franchised team relegated
nAts - free my boy
Chronicle - himothy
Redgar - had the skill sucked out of him in a panda express parking lot by berLin

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deffo is carrying a team to ascension

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Itsover

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sheydos is the one winning games for KOI together with grubinho, not his fault it is a 5v5 game and not a 2v5.

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Cosmic_

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sheydos was honestly a top 10 player in emea this year tbh

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Shuaaaa

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Sheydos is actually cracked still, stop tryna be cute.

Actually laughed at the redgar comment tho

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Tryeue2

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Me when i stat pad against bums

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laeDLaer

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ok 3 was a stretch but here’s 2

Chronicle
Derke
Shao
Suygetsu
Zeddy

Nats
Sheydos
Cloud
Something
Purp0

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Sushi_

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Calling a finnish person Russian is fighting words as far as I know, replace him with jemkin and that team could qualify to champs

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laeDLaer

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Derke is Russian bro..

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Sushi_

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His flair says Finland

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Just lives there. Bro his parents are Russian he is born here and he has dual citizenship.

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Okie

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Itsover

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being born in a different country changes your ethnicity, got it, Derke is as Finnish as juissi

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laeDLaer

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Juissi? xD

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Sushi_

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So he was born in Finland and has his flair as finnish? And he's Russian?

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laeDLaer

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Bro he’s not born in Finland. He just lived there from young age. Никита Сырмытев Very Finnish name 👌

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Okie

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archetype

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add:
Jemkin
Trexx
vo0kashu
Kr1stal
Vici

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laeDLaer

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Solid roster but lack experience

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archetype

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There's not enough good RU talent to make a third team outside of these guys. Maybe d3ffo, maybe Jady can fit in here. But idk. Lumo?

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laeDLaer

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if only we had a tier 2 league to attract and develop young talents in CIS..

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Fedra

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While I think that volume would matter the most, while also considerin its population and people who actually play Valorant.

Chile, for example, has 19.6 million people.
USA has 333.3 million.
China has 1.412 billion.

Also, we would have to take into account the number of slots in VCT.

Latam has 2 spots for both, Latam South and Latam North; China has a whole league. Obviously, this also depends on the population. (Then again, India has more people than China, but I guess that not as much people play or watch Valorant, so they don't have their own region).

As such, it is much more probable that a country as China develops more talents due to sheer amount of players than Chile. And why I am quite happy for the amount of chilean players attending champions.

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Itsover

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keznitdeus mogs hard, having him alone is enough to call Chile a top tier val superpower imo

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Still wish we saw him play in place of Tacolilla last year

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I am also a kruumer

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Quality.

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welikefortniteandvalorant

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I think volume, turkey is the best valorant country for example because they just have an absurd amount of talents

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rtg9000

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if we're accounting for population it's Korea and if we don't its probably the US

by either measure Turkey is for sure top 3 though (maybe 4th not population adjusted, Russia, US, SK?)

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volume is by far the most important, since it means that a country/region has more longevity when it comes to talent. they don't need to rely on a single generation of superstars to foster results, since they can simply plunge back into the pool of upcoming players and foster some more

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Sadfully, we will never make a tournament where a country have more than one team... that would be intresting to have a situation where every country got 3 team and you've need your 3 team to go far to win, but if one day an tournament with country happen it will be only 5 player

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Biostar

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Esports is a top-down game. If you have superstars and their followers, one of followers will become a new superstar. Everyone develops using the superteam as an example. Eventually, trophies will mean volume.