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How to improve Riot's region distribution?

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#1
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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#2
cloudberry
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New VCT leagues:

  • NA East
  • NA West
  • Latin America + Brazil
  • Western Europe
  • Eastern Europe + Russia
  • Türkiye + Middle East + South Asia
  • East Asia
  • Southeast Asia
    Each region has 6 teams, all of whom play in a round robin every split, with the top 4 teams heading to playoffs.
    8 regions mean international tournaments can have 8 teams, 16 teams, etc... nice even numbers to work with.

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  • NA East
  • NA West
  • Latin America + Brazil
  • Western Europe + Africa
  • Eastern Europe + Russia + Türkiye
  • Central Asia + Middle East + South Asia
  • China + Japan + Korea
  • Southeast Asia + Oceania
#6
Psion
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just split EMEA fully in half at this point
Western Europe + north africa
eastern europe + middle east + turkey
EDIT: DOWNVOTE THIS HE FORGOT OCE

#7
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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regionality emea is exactly what has bred mediocracy for so many years

#8
cloudberry
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My bad guys I hit post by accident I wasn't done yet (I got downvoted while I was editing LMAO)

#9
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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your plan biases the # of slots towards EMEA and americas by default that is dumb

#11
cloudberry
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Even distribution clearly hasn't worked for people, so I'm giving what I think is a decently balanced alternative for something I came up with in 3 minutes.

I guess it would be more fair to split EMEA into 2 leagues and APAC into three, but otherwise I think it's fine

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sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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The even distribution is fine the majority of people who complain about it want to implement a system which is unsustainable for the size of the esport. Regionality would be ok if valorant was larger than it was but in an esport like this it leads to fractured team trying to force a single nationality into their teams (BBL or old KCP) which has shown consistently to hold weaker results since you are limiting the talent pool you can pull from. Hell this is the issue with lots of the APAC teams rn (im looking at you ZETA). Valorant would need to grow significantly in size to actually be able to sustain this system. We would just return to 2022 where the regional leagues would be 1 team beating up everyone else like DRX and LOUD back in the day.

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cloudberry
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Yeah that's fair

#10
Psion
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mf you deserve to get down voted you forgot oce even more than riot did

#12
cloudberry
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I grouped them with Southeast Asia in my head but forgot to type it out, whoops

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scarlemange
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Fr

#19
cloudberry
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Made the edit 👍

#13
scarlemange
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Too many leagues

#40
Burgru
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NA east/west split is completely unnecessary

#3
ELpepino096
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americas: 6 spots
emea: 4 spots
pacific: 3 spots
china: 3 spots

all this for the champions

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snaggy
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l take

#17
scarlemange
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China 2
Pacific 4
Emea 4
America 6

#26
Zune4002
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China 3
Pacific 4
Emea 4
America 5

#27
scarlemange
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China 3 nahhh

#33
uliw
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China 1
Pacific 4
Emea 5
America 6

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geospliced
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More leagues (in my opinion):
VCT NA (USA + Canada)
VCT LATAM (Brazil + Latin America)
VCT WEME (West Europe + Middle East)
VCT EECA (East Europe + CIS + Africa)
VCT EA (Japan + South Korea + Taiwan + HK)
VCT CN (China mainland)
VCT EAPAC (Philippines + Indonesia + OCE + Singapore)
VCT WAPAC (Vietnam + Thailand + India + Malaysia)

Qualifying 2 from every league would get you 16 teams and if you wanted less you could just do semi international qualifiers by pairing up leagues

#15
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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this is better ngl

#18
scarlemange
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Where is middle east ?

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geospliced
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I put it with West Europe for ergonomics but #20 and #21

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Psion
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switch north africa and middle east

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geospliced
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Yeah that would make sense but I wanted the 4 letter names lol

#25
Psion
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and by doing this u made weme the stupidest name imaginable

#24
scarlemange
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Agreed

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I feel like separating CIS into E/W is important. Some Russians are closer to Japan/KR than any other CIS country. Also, i feel like 5 letter is ok, since LATAM is and the E/W APACs are
What about:
VCT NA
VCT LATAM
VCT WENA (West Europe + North Africa)
VCT EECME (East Europe/CIS + Middle East) +rep for eecme being funny to say
VCT ECEA (East CIS, KR, JP, Taiwan, HK) Technically east cis IS east asia, so the EC can get dropped if you want to just EA again
VCT CN
VCT EAPAC
VCT WAPAC

I like dividing up EU, it means MENA and CIS will actually be in the franchise, kekw EMEA franchise wit only European orgs kkkkkk (but yeah me, cis, na(frica) teams in franch is good.)

Also, i think having these leagues, then semi-intl tournaments, then Masters/Champs could work really well so there is a longer season that isnt ending in august
It could go like
NA and LATAM have their indiv. Tournaments, top 4 or 5 ea go to 8/10 team amer tournament, top 3 go to Mas/Champs
WEME, EECA —> EMEA —> qual
EA, CN, (E/W APAC) —> ASOC (Asia-Oce) —> Qual

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geospliced
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Good stuff!

#32
UnitedKingdom
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thank you geospliced <3

#36
Psion
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call EECME MECEE

#14
Aayan
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EMEA —> EUR + MENA
APAC + CN —> SEA + (N)EA
AMER —> NA + SA

Would also like less teams with more matches so player quality will be better. rn the bottom teams in every region are worse than t2. Maybe 8 partner + 2 ascension
6 leagues is a nice number to work with assuming the lowest LAN number is 12

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_amBrian
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Option 1:
Americas get split into North/South (Brazil goes to South)

Based off Stage 1 the Americas scene is too heavily NA-favored rn

Option 2:
Pacific and CN get redistributed to East Asia (China, Japan, Korea) and Pacific (MY/SG, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Oceania, Philippines, South Asia, HK/TW)

China gets decent teams to practice against and smaller regions with reasonably sized orgs get some spotlight

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scarlemange
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What about emea and middle east

#29
scarlemange
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What about emea and middle east

#34
jimjam789
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Everyone is just saying how vct was before franchising which had even worse region disparity

#35
Mortadelo
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Guys we can’t have 10 regions again, VCL’s are a disaster rn. If something is happening is getting even less division in tier2, not the other way around

#39
Dankmemes
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  • NA
  • LATAM/BR
  • EU
  • CIS/Turkiye
  • EA (KR/JP/CN)
  • APAC (2022 style)

MENA funnels into EU

#41
LeCat
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The easiet fix is just merging CIS (or at least russia) with China. Russians are having a hard time getting visa in the Eu and alot of russian talents plays in JP and CN anyway because they are closer to China and Japan than Moscow. A China+Russia+Mena and Central Asia league will be decently competitive, with Navi, FPX and EDG playing for them in an alternate Shanghai masters for example. (5 cn, 4 cis and 1 mena teams in the league).

Emea will take a hit but they'll be fine. Most of them don't use their import slot anw so having 1 russian import wouldn't change much.

#42
Dybala21
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Bring back the 2022 circuit

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