there's no way TS lose this match
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.12 1.12 1.12 | 202 229 167 | 16 9 7 | / 15 10 5 / | 5 3 2 | +1 -1 +2 | 67% 58% 78% | 138 156 113 | 42% 41% 45% | 2 2 0 | 2 2 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.09 0.89 1.35 | 230 186 289 | 16 8 8 | / 15 10 5 / | 6 3 3 | +1 -2 +3 | 67% 58% 78% | 157 134 188 | 29% 30% 27% | 4 2 2 | 5 4 1 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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1.02 1.02 1.03 | 191 190 193 | 12 7 5 | / 14 9 5 / | 7 6 1 | -2 -2 0 | 71% 75% 67% | 129 133 124 | 23% 23% 23% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.86 0.59 1.21 | 139 103 188 | 12 5 7 | / 15 11 4 / | 4 3 1 | -3 -6 +3 | 62% 50% 78% | 89 82 97 | 32% 42% 25% | 2 0 2 | 2 2 0 | 0 -2 +2 | |
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0.59 0.59 0.59 | 97 120 69 | 5 4 1 | / 15 10 5 / | 7 4 3 | -10 -6 -4 | 81% 75% 89% | 74 81 64 | 19% 28% 8% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.38 1.55 1.26 | 289 317 268 | 22 10 12 | / 13 5 8 / | 4 2 2 | +9 +5 +4 | 76% 78% 75% | 171 180 165 | 22% 33% 17% | 3 2 1 | 1 1 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.35 0.24 2.17 | 282 102 418 | 21 2 19 | / 13 9 4 / | 10 5 5 | +8 -7 +15 | 76% 78% 75% | 176 75 252 | 17% 21% 16% | 4 0 4 | 5 3 2 | -1 -3 +2 | |
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0.97 1.10 0.87 | 175 197 160 | 13 6 7 | / 13 5 8 / | 6 0 6 | 0 +1 -1 | 81% 56% 100% | 114 119 110 | 29% 27% 30% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.93 0.96 0.91 | 139 132 146 | 10 4 6 | / 11 5 6 / | 9 3 6 | -1 -1 0 | 81% 78% 83% | 96 81 108 | 20% 24% 17% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.90 0.76 1.00 | 140 81 184 | 8 2 6 | / 11 4 7 / | 9 3 6 | -3 -2 -1 | 71% 56% 83% | 105 66 135 | 40% 50% 35% | 2 0 2 | 1 0 1 | +1 0 +1 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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0.95 1.14 1.01 | 223 210 251 | 28 18 10 | / 30 21 9 / | 6 3 3 | -2 -3 +1 | 65% 63% 69% | 152 140 173 | 31% 30% 33% | 5 2 3 | 8 6 2 | -3 -4 +1 | |
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0.95 1.01 0.97 | 177 178 186 | 23 14 9 | / 28 19 9 / | 8 4 4 | -5 -5 0 | 54% 46% 69% | 125 124 129 | 32% 38% 22% | 2 2 0 | 4 4 0 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.72 0.81 0.75 | 155 165 151 | 17 11 6 | / 30 21 9 / | 14 12 2 | -13 -10 -3 | 62% 63% 62% | 110 113 105 | 18% 15% 23% | 3 1 2 | 4 4 0 | -1 -3 +2 | |
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0.56 0.85 0.66 | 125 116 149 | 17 9 8 | / 30 22 8 / | 10 9 1 | -13 -13 0 | 59% 58% 62% | 85 87 79 | 20% 20% 19% | 2 0 2 | 4 3 1 | -2 -3 +1 | |
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0.49 0.42 0.44 | 94 118 53 | 9 8 1 | / 30 21 9 / | 8 4 4 | -21 -13 -8 | 62% 58% 69% | 71 83 50 | 24% 32% 7% | 1 0 1 | 4 2 2 | -3 -2 -1 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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0.70 2.29 1.73 | 341 186 413 | 46 8 38 | / 19 11 8 / | 12 5 7 | +27 -3 +30 | 84% 77% 88% | 205 120 251 | 22% 41% 18% | 11 2 9 | 6 4 2 | +5 -2 +7 | |
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1.51 1.34 1.40 | 216 200 210 | 27 10 17 | / 14 5 9 / | 18 6 12 | +13 +5 +8 | 89% 85% 92% | 136 119 145 | 15% 22% 13% | 4 1 3 | 2 2 0 | +2 -1 +3 | |
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1.46 1.08 1.21 | 247 292 232 | 34 13 21 | / 24 7 17 / | 15 3 12 | +10 +6 +4 | 81% 85% 79% | 149 165 141 | 27% 33% 25% | 5 2 3 | 1 1 0 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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0.97 1.22 1.13 | 185 120 212 | 22 6 16 | / 16 5 11 / | 11 3 8 | +6 +1 +5 | 78% 69% 83% | 126 83 149 | 26% 37% 24% | 2 0 2 | 1 0 1 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.11 0.68 0.83 | 138 164 132 | 19 7 12 | / 21 6 15 / | 12 3 9 | -2 +1 -3 | 81% 69% 88% | 92 98 88 | 21% 19% 23% | 2 0 2 | 3 1 2 | -1 -1 0 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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0.92 1.00 0.66 | 216 233 168 | 12 10 2 | / 15 11 4 / | 0 0 0 | -3 -1 -2 | 63% 67% 50% | 145 147 140 | 33% 29% 60% | 1 0 1 | 3 2 1 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.76 0.77 0.75 | 151 127 227 | 7 5 2 | / 13 9 4 / | 3 1 2 | -6 -4 -2 | 38% 33% 50% | 109 91 165 | 17% 33% 0% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 | |
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0.40 0.53 0.04 | 110 128 59 | 5 4 1 | / 15 11 4 / | 6 6 0 | -10 -7 -3 | 56% 67% 25% | 79 92 39 | 7% 9% 0% | 0 0 0 | 2 1 1 | -2 -1 -1 | |
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0.39 0.42 0.29 | 119 140 57 | 5 4 1 | / 16 12 4 / | 7 6 1 | -11 -8 -3 | 50% 50% 50% | 85 93 63 | 9% 7% 25% | 1 1 0 | 4 4 0 | -3 -3 0 | |
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0.25 0.39 0.02 | 91 116 18 | 4 4 0 | / 15 11 4 / | 1 0 1 | -11 -7 -4 | 38% 42% 25% | 68 85 18 | 33% 38% 0% | 0 0 0 | 3 2 1 | -3 -2 -1 |
R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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2.23 1.72 2.40 | 399 374 408 | 25 6 19 | / 6 2 4 / | 2 0 2 | +19 +4 +15 | 94% 75% 100% | 243 222 250 | 28% 75% 20% | 7 2 5 | 1 1 0 | +6 +1 +5 | |
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2.02 2.76 1.78 | 293 352 274 | 17 6 11 | / 3 0 3 / | 9 3 6 | +14 +6 +8 | 100% 100% 100% | 187 205 181 | 13% 20% 11% | 4 1 3 | 0 0 0 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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1.45 1.44 1.45 | 230 207 239 | 14 4 10 | / 5 1 4 / | 2 0 2 | +9 +3 +6 | 88% 100% 83% | 152 121 163 | 21% 27% 20% | 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.98 1.25 0.89 | 205 235 195 | 12 3 9 | / 11 2 9 / | 11 1 10 | +1 +1 0 | 88% 100% 83% | 120 130 117 | 38% 33% 41% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.66 1.13 0.50 | 100 91 104 | 6 1 5 | / 8 1 7 / | 6 3 3 | -2 0 -2 | 81% 100% 75% | 63 53 67 | 10% 0% 13% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 |
TS 0 - 2 TLN
TS should be the clear winner here. Emphasis on should.
TS came off a dominant win against various T2 teams in the recent Predator League, so clearly nothing much has changed.
Talon, however, is much more unpredictable. Keeping only crws and Jitboys, the new players are notable in various ways (especially lenne, having played briefly as TS's 6th). Sure, their performance in the offseason has looked shaky, but they have since had plenty of time to fix things.
We have seen cases where these kinds of moves surprise, especially since we've literally seen this last year, with TS winning 2-1 against Talon.
Anyways, TLDR TS wins this.
Thai fans are petty (me included) for dropping the Thai roster for an international team but their Afreeca TV performance was literally with less than a week of practice. You can still see some traces of shaky comms but overall TLN's trading really impressed me here. Lenne's IGLing and reads have also impressed me and I can see how dedicated he is to this role + I'm happy Crws can finally sit back and play the game without worrying about calling (albeit this game was not really great for him stats-wise).
Ban finally getting to play duelist again and KAYO which is practically a duelist. Governor showing us why he's a ranked demon (we'll see how he performs against opponents that actually shoot back) but as long as he stays confident we'll be chill since his duelist hero pool is also very diverse. Jitboys and Crws ~ what can I say say, they're both such solid players with Jitboys having insane mechanics and Crws having that giga-brain. Last but not least, as long as Lenne can keep calling well and stay calm whilst pulling his own weight then this team looks solid.
Okay... Been watching TS for so long now. Here's my take in this match...
The strats that I'ven been seeing in TS for so long has been missing this game, like where are the strats at? Seems like they have been neutralized by talon. Team secret has been struggling on teams with very good duelist/oper. You can look up their matches and most of their losses are teams with S-tier duelist/oper.
NDG is a downgrade version of Dubstep. YES he is, dubstep can do what NDG does but NDG cant do what dubstep does. At least dubstep can be a good anchor for TS with that operator but NDG cant. He looks lost in this match. What TS need is a very good duelist that smells blood better than everybody else.
Dont get me wrong TS is a very good team, just inconsistent. When against a team with good duelist or an unpredictable team like Talon, TS plays like shit what more on better teams this year...
NDG out, call that boy GIANSANITY!!!
stopped watching after an 8-1 something on ascent. Wow. Can't even say nice try. Bro I give up, prolly just gonna support T1 this time. AHAAHAHAHA i hate it bro. I preferred gian for TS but when NDG got it I fully supported him. I thought bro could actually change things despite how minimal the changes were in TS. I hope, I hope, I hope he shows tryouts NDG. Invy is the most consistent out of them, so maybe ill change teams but illl still root for Invy.
While I agree that Governor is a great player, who would he replace in NA?
Leaf
Demon1
Zekken
Cryo
Oxy
? The issue is that NA have the best duelists. You can MAYBE make the argument that he is just as good as some of those names (personally I don’t think he is, not yet at least) but I don’t think anyone who knows Valorant would say gov is better.