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ajwinner

https://twitter.com/ryotzz/status/1633483810703564800?s=46&t=LcoHVWRTrb4c3ocg7upKuw

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Imagine being such a loser to do something like that (accusing someone without proof: plus).
LOUD rent free in his head lol.

The sense of superiority is so high that he tries to find ways to blame others for being a loser, imagine that...

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Ardiis always does this. He also accused several players in EU

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Did he lose the matches before accusing? If yes, then we have a "sore loser" diagnosis.

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he did?? who?

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i only know about niesow and he could have been right on that one

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oh he definitely did

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just the only thing he could be talking about... ardiis had absolutely 0 evidence for it and niesow was never proven to be cheating in val but his history in other games is interesting

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You really think he didn’t cheat? Hahahaha

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i never said that i think he was legit just that there's no actual evidence for him cheating in val... you can still cheat without it ever getting confirmed

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Modt circumstances make it so that niesow cheating is the most realistic scenario, so it makes he accused him

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niesow and he was right

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Watch the whole vod he did not say that he leaked it

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sore loser

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huge L for ardiis

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Esse pelicano não para de bostejar filho, padrão europeu

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KEKW guys can't be friends anymore

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Disappointed on Ardiis. He should show some proof for a serious shit to say or it is just a empty accusation.

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What proof you want?

That he scrimmed his team 3 times and then was chilling with LOUD guys ?

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Read again what you said and try to find any proof about his accusation. Did he recorded something Ryotzz said in that convo or nah? Can he show a factual evidence or he is just imagining things?

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he speculated a possible outcome which is not that far fetched.

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But the impact of those speculations in someone else life is enough to not telling them without concret evidence.

Ryotzz and Matheuzin (another tbk player) have wives and kids to provide

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zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it

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Bellend behaviour

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bruh the guy literally makes a false accusation that could harm TBK in finding future trainings and it's the fans who are being baited, common american user

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this was an example of NA fans just taking everything wrong their idols do as troll or joke. like lol he just said career affecting shit to a player justifying his loss in some way

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Always like that,when things get serious is always a "joke" or a "bait" excuse

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Imagine with the sense of "farming" accusing someone and risking his life/job by doing so. If that is his intention I think that Riot should investigate this and do something about it. I mean, he is part of the franchise now, Riot names are on it as well and there are rules.

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nothing is at risk as of now?
Has riot started a investigation?
Have any other players spoke up saying they KNOW they gave LOUD info cause Ardiss didn’t even do that y’all listen to the beginning of a clip and make your mind up when he literally said he doesn’t know (regardless he shouldn’t but look how easy it is to farm tf out of you guys over him explaining a story) Stay tilted over something small asf like this for all I care when in reality it’ll blow over like nothing happened

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its not farming. riot investigation doesnt start 1 hour after something happens. what the fuck are your arguments. and as much as its about risk, its also about pr. NA lives in their bubble and only read and consume from that bubble. brazil and this player + the teams from br in general got so bad reputation from this. just coz people are angry and talking about it doesnt, mean ardiis meant it to farm. he was just trying to give shitty excuses, like he has done before

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Riot isn’t going to launch a investigation over it have u not watched the full clip that is my point💀 He literally stated it was more of a mental block that hurt him in the end cause he let it get to him thinking they could have leaked their scrims. But I mean yea it’s a shitty excuse but don’t gotta be all this.

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typical NA behaviour

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green flags overreacting because they lack context lmao

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they must have leaked this peak to LOUD💀
https://imgur.com/a/ZOe5sCC

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that whiff destroyed NRG

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Didn't even have time to shoot

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wait actually? i thought he missed

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Put on 0.25 speed and pay attention to the sound and the number of bullets. His crosshairs passed Tuyz during the pixel opening, and he was killed before he could correct with a flick.

Lack of caution to open the pixel + precision and insane reaction from tuyz

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yikes ardiis, this a pretty big yikes

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Holy shit all the Brazilian flags swarmed in here LOL

I dont have a horse in this race btw, obviously if they did cheat or they didn't we would never know unless someone outright says it.

My take: I dont think a team lead by Saadhak who is such a sweetheart would allow other teams to leak strats. A fan asked Saadhak on stream like a month ago if they would leak strats to SENTINELS because Fnatic were scared to scrim with LOUD for that reason. Saadhak joked around or something and said he will tell Pancs (pANcada) but he wasnt serious obviously. So yea, I dont think Saadhak would allow that type of shittery.

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Of course not, as ryotzz said in his tweet, it's his life and job, the way he provides for his family. It's just more than just a hobby for him, accusing someone about that is really dangerous.

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Bro called me a fan

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wrong account?

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Nah I was the guy trying to stir up drama with boaster in his chat

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lmfaoooo

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https://www.vlr.gg/170160/fnatic-refused-scrims-with-loud

Even made a thread about it acting all coy and shit

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Top tier teams dont want to scrim other condenders ?

its not that crazy too see in esports.

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You completely misconstrued the issue, it’s isn’t about not wanting to prac against Loud because they might compete against them, it’s about not wanting to prac with loud because they don’t trust those guys to not leak info

Same thing that ardiis is accusing them of doing here with absolutely no evidence

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Source on Fnatic ever saying that ????

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Bro’s beefing with a 2 month old topic, but if you insist

https://youtu.be/fYvjdnoyYTg 2:39:00

continue thread →

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saadhak has always been vocal about finding unethical to leak information from scrims.

ryotz were a guest of the Brazilian cast on the day of the match and, this part is an assumption, as tuyz's ex-team mate, i imagine he greeted tuyz and other loud's player before the game.

i find weird how fast ardiis jumped to conclusions

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he isn't just tuyz's ex-teammate, ryotzz and kon4n were almost like valorant fathers for tuyz, tuyz was about to give up on being a pro and kon4n/ryotzz convinced him to stay and to become part of their team. Those two actually changed tuyz's life

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People dont know the difference between accusation and speculation just be saying shot out ur asses lmao

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He said: "there's no way he didn't leak" in the video, is that is speculation... 0:23 seconds of the video. :)

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did you watch the video? it's dumb by him but don't cherry pick the stuff u want, watch it again and come back

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He said it first and then he realized the was accusing someone and saying shit and rapidly changed to "I'm not saying...". Of course, yes, he is a saint.

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bro don't be so pressed i'm just saying he clearly did not straight up accuse him, he's going back and forth

which is dumb by him either way you just can't be saying that on stream even if it was speculations, he needs to apologize to TBK

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does someone have the full clip?
ardiis says "Im not saying that they did that, cause actually we - ill get into it more" and the clip cuts off before he starts that train of thought

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He said: "there's no way he didn't leak" in the video... 0:23 seconds of the video. :)

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I can't remember exactly.
But I remember him saying nrg had a certain pistol round strat that they used Vs tbk in scrims (they played fracture Vs tbk a few times) it sorta made them second guess themselves.
He said it became more of a mental thing.

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GG Ardiis will now never be forgiven by the nation of Brazil

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lmao 😺

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the impression farm is great with this one

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I mean that is a serious accusation tho

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So funny to "farm" in the chance to fuck up the entire carrer of a player.

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Bro, please. This guy is such a dick

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look at all these green flags up here 🗿🗿💀

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Nah I think he has a right to be angry about ardiis on this one throwing wild accusations

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Of course. This type of shit could end his career and his income to his family. Not only his, but Matheuzin (his teammate) has a daughter and wife too.

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W ardiis

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He literally choked towards the end of that game missing easy shots. And bro is blaming someone else on the loss.

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daily NA drama ?

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who is TBK?
I ask seriously.

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Brazilian team that lost to Furia in LCQ americas for the Last champions. Tuyz was their player before he joined LOUD

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thank u

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ardiis saying some shit on stream is not gonna meaningfully impact a t2 brazilian teams prospects can we get real

like if he actually thought anyone would cheat or leak shit NRG would go to riot lol. this is just him being dumb on purpose to be entertaining

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Bro, imagine someone important talking shit about your job and integrity. Something that is essential to provide for you wife and kids. I would be mad aswell

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Reminds me of Brazil witching hunting leaf back in the day.
Half of those fuckers still haven't apologized

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2 wrongs don't make 1 right. This is not math exercise, brother.

I can only say for myself that I don't agree what people did against Leaf and Xeppaa.

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No but it should serve as a reminder that baseless clips out of context shouldn't hold this much weight

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Wait, you’re telling me a 46 second clip of a pro player with no filter watching a 43 minute documentary about their tournament run can be taken out of context and turned into a sensationalist soundbite?

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the majority still think xeppa and leaf cheated though, so your personal opinion doesnt really mean anything. and that situation was MUCHH worse than this lol

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Guy was talking to me like I was doing double standards, then basically my opinion on that event means smth to the conversation.

But idk, for you the most important thing is that ardiis play for a NA team, so he can talk whatever shit he wants.

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Why would people apologize? Isn't it strange that Leaf, xeta, vanity and mce have ever won somethin on LAN? It's impressive to me how they could win so much online t2 tournaments but never performed on LAN. In Valorant, the history repeats itself. C9 hasn't won shit.

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idk, he does need to address it
but yes knowing ardiis history its very much him just being dumb/farming impressions rather than them actually accusing Loud + TBK
a rough one if that clip is the entirety of it though

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I'm not very good at listening to English, so you can tell me what Ardiis said to him.

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he said ''there is no way this guys didn't show our scrim to them (loud)''

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Thank you, my Brazilian bro.
If you made the statement without proof, that is a big problem.

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he half accused a team of leaking scrims

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ardiis isnt speaking english hes speaking Liverpudlian (english with a scouse accent) do not worry about not being able to understand him, lots of people from the UK can't lmao

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bunch of na users and some emea braindead thinking that everything is about farming and baiting...this type of acussation could end someones career for nothing...wtf, would like that someone in your work did false acussations and then just justify saying '' i was joking?'' it is serious bro...imagine being ryotzz? his dream is to be part of franchise and then someone bigger than you acussing of being dishonest? bunch of kids u guys are.

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these guys are disgusting af i can't really believe they can live in that way

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such a loser, yay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ardiis

come back to nrg, prince yay

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stopped reading at Ajwinner

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I mean he said he wasn’t saying they did it for sure
And if man is just chilling with the LOUD team shortly after their scrim it would be sus asf to? Im sure any team would lmao W ARDISSSSS

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Incoming "he's just trolling and he got u guys" excuse

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i mean isnt it similar to for example nrg scrims m80, and then m80's player nismo duo queues with zekken for ranked. like just coz zekken and nismo were chilling together and nismo pracced against nrg doesnt mean he has to share info. and secondly its quite common for teams to leak comps and vods of scrims and shit. boaster on the hiko sliggy sgares podcast said that they didnt prac loud when they came to eu for bootcamp because they were facing sentinels and it would be very likely that the guys on both teams still talk a lot with each other. so they totally avoided praccing a team like loud. nrg obviously knows what comes with shit like this. these are excuses as its never going to get proven and you'll come out as just crybabies. not knowing ever who was right

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did anyone here actually watch the stream? the final message was that they didn't cheat...

he literally explained that he was paranoid about them leaking something so he didn't wanna run an exec, but in the end obviously they didn't say anything so the exec would've worked out lol, he was making fun of himself for being so paranoid

TLDR - no he's not trolling, he was telling a whole story and this is just a no context fraction of it lol

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do you have the full clip? havent been able to find it by just scrolling through

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you have to watch the whole thing through. he takes like 30min to tell the full story because he's reacting to a 45 min documentary

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ye am currently 20 mins in to the vod, just havent gotten to that section yet
Ardiis makes it entertaining ngl

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This is the classic case of "criticize then praise/quick to make amends": you passive-aggressively suggest something bad about someone then right after you say something opposite to get away without retaliation.

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that is the least generous interpretation, yes

or its part of a setup for a story that you’re telling on stream, which is the actual reality

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ardiis clearly says "I'm not saying they did it" ...

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''im not saying they did it but there is no way they haven't show our scrim to them''

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NA drama is always gold, this time its with the brazilian spice. last time NA and brazil fought, zombs came out as the hero for few and absolute villain for others. this time though its more like liverpool vs brazil.

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Bro these drama just make NA league more hype lol

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Now imagine NRG VS any brazilian team KEKW

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Just wanna say I still can't get over his thick accent 🗿(not hate

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Coisa boa, se eles tão falando bobagem assim é porque o Brasil tá bem no Vava, tão começando a inventar desculpa pra não admitir que fomos melhores. kkkkk

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now thats punishable. i hope riot does something for this defamation without evidence

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yes! i was thinking punishment by death! thoughts ?

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stupid asshole

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Na drama xd

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add context or i will exterminate brazil

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Yay would never

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Definitely normal to have outsiders in your team room minutes before the game!

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What do you mean? Ryotzz was interviewed that day by Riot Brazil and this area is where all the players stay together before the game, not separated. He was there just like any other player/interviewed.

You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/r1BMCp-pWbY?t=445

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Ele não se importa, cara. Ele e aquele tal de jumb0 (esse aqui tem um histórico de mensagens completo falando merda/torcendo contra o Brasil).

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Esse jumb0 é só um imbecil xenofóbico mesmo, o outro eu não sei, pode ser só um idiota.

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He got so dizzy after that death to tuyz in the 2v1 situation that he had to come up with an excuse.

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Looooser

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If i speak, im in trouble

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Lotta comments up there

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brazil giving as much attention he wanted kekw

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He's right, i have proof. Bra7:1llians are just mad because their team got exposed kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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seems to be a very controversial topic. didnt expect this to be so talked about, im not taking sides tho.

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I've learned about not putting my hand on fire for no one, so I did not taking sides as well... BUT, that's a really hard and heavy accusations, that can even ruin a life job and all your reputation

so it's really a sensible subject to talk about into a stream with thousands of ppl watching

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FAZ O L, ardiis!

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Man accusing him why?? Cause his former teammate plays for the team that knocked him out of the tournament and he was their to talk to him, sore loser like behaviour even after winning a freaking international tournament smh what's with this guys man 💀💀

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sorry if i’m not understanding the video ardiis is kinda hard to understand but didn’t he say he doesn’t actually think he did that?

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yes and throughout the stream explains it a little more coming to the conclusion they didn’t actually leak scrims just something Ardiss had thought could happen due to circumstances.

Ardiis accuses TBK of cheating

L