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blazennn [#9]zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it
Bellend behaviour
Holy shit all the Brazilian flags swarmed in here LOL
I dont have a horse in this race btw, obviously if they did cheat or they didn't we would never know unless someone outright says it.
My take: I dont think a team lead by Saadhak who is such a sweetheart would allow other teams to leak strats. A fan asked Saadhak on stream like a month ago if they would leak strats to SENTINELS because Fnatic were scared to scrim with LOUD for that reason. Saadhak joked around or something and said he will tell Pancs (pANcada) but he wasnt serious obviously. So yea, I dont think Saadhak would allow that type of shittery.
blazennn [#9]zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it
bruh the guy literally makes a false accusation that could harm TBK in finding future trainings and it's the fans who are being baited, common american user
blazennn [#9]zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it
Imagine with the sense of "farming" accusing someone and risking his life/job by doing so. If that is his intention I think that Riot should investigate this and do something about it. I mean, he is part of the franchise now, Riot names are on it as well and there are rules.
blazennn [#9]zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it
typical NA behaviour
BigTiddyMilf [#13]Holy shit all the Brazilian flags swarmed in here LOL
I dont have a horse in this race btw, obviously if they did cheat or they didn't we would never know unless someone outright says it.
My take: I dont think a team lead by Saadhak who is such a sweetheart would allow other teams to leak strats. A fan asked Saadhak on stream like a month ago if they would leak strats to SENTINELS because Fnatic were scared to scrim with LOUD for that reason. Saadhak joked around or something and said he will tell Pancs (pANcada) but he wasnt serious obviously. So yea, I dont think Saadhak would allow that type of shittery.
Of course not, as ryotzz said in his tweet, it's his life and job, the way he provides for his family. It's just more than just a hobby for him, accusing someone about that is really dangerous.
gl1tch [#15]People dont know the difference between accusation and speculation just be saying shot out ur asses lmao
He said: "there's no way he didn't leak" in the video, is that is speculation... 0:23 seconds of the video. :)
Targu1n [#17]does someone have the full clip?
ardiis says "Im not saying that they did that, cause actually we - ill get into it more" and the clip cuts off before he starts that train of thought
He said: "there's no way he didn't leak" in the video... 0:23 seconds of the video. :)
Targu1n [#17]does someone have the full clip?
ardiis says "Im not saying that they did that, cause actually we - ill get into it more" and the clip cuts off before he starts that train of thought
I can't remember exactly.
But I remember him saying nrg had a certain pistol round strat that they used Vs tbk in scrims (they played fracture Vs tbk a few times) it sorta made them second guess themselves.
He said it became more of a mental thing.
brdreamer [#24]He said: "there's no way he didn't leak" in the video, is that is speculation... 0:23 seconds of the video. :)
did you watch the video? it's dumb by him but don't cherry pick the stuff u want, watch it again and come back
NG1nS [#29]did you watch the video? it's dumb by him but don't cherry pick the stuff u want, watch it again and come back
He said it first and then he realized the was accusing someone and saying shit and rapidly changed to "I'm not saying...". Of course, yes, he is a saint.
Staticle [#26]Nah I think he has a right to be angry about ardiis on this one throwing wild accusations
Of course. This type of shit could end his career and his income to his family. Not only his, but Matheuzin (his teammate) has a daughter and wife too.
blazennn [#9]zzzzzzzzz
he farming the fuck out of this💀💀 and you guys just keep falling for it
green flags overreacting because they lack context lmao
brdreamer [#31]He said it first and then he realized the was accusing someone and saying shit and rapidly changed to "I'm not saying...". Of course, yes, he is a saint.
bro don't be so pressed i'm just saying he clearly did not straight up accuse him, he's going back and forth
which is dumb by him either way you just can't be saying that on stream even if it was speculations, he needs to apologize to TBK
BigTiddyMilf [#13]Holy shit all the Brazilian flags swarmed in here LOL
I dont have a horse in this race btw, obviously if they did cheat or they didn't we would never know unless someone outright says it.
My take: I dont think a team lead by Saadhak who is such a sweetheart would allow other teams to leak strats. A fan asked Saadhak on stream like a month ago if they would leak strats to SENTINELS because Fnatic were scared to scrim with LOUD for that reason. Saadhak joked around or something and said he will tell Pancs (pANcada) but he wasnt serious obviously. So yea, I dont think Saadhak would allow that type of shittery.
Bro called me a fan
soraol [#35]who is TBK?
I ask seriously.
Brazilian team that lost to Furia in LCQ americas for the Last champions. Tuyz was their player before he joined LOUD
Marshal_D_Teach [#39]Brazilian team that lost to Furia in LCQ americas for the Last champions. Tuyz was their player before he joined LOUD
thank u
uentzoul [#10]they must have leaked this peak to LOUD💀
https://imgur.com/a/ZOe5sCC
that whiff destroyed NRG
bunch of na users and some emea braindead thinking that everything is about farming and baiting...this type of acussation could end someones career for nothing...wtf, would like that someone in your work did false acussations and then just justify saying '' i was joking?'' it is serious bro...imagine being ryotzz? his dream is to be part of franchise and then someone bigger than you acussing of being dishonest? bunch of kids u guys are.
hyperbanjo [#41]I'm not very good at listening to English, so you can tell me what Ardiis said to him.
he said ''there is no way this guys didn't show our scrim to them (loud)''
ASTEROIDCHILD [#40]ardiis saying some shit on stream is not gonna meaningfully impact a t2 brazilian teams prospects can we get real
like if he actually thought anyone would cheat or leak shit NRG would go to riot lol. this is just him being dumb on purpose to be entertaining
Bro, imagine someone important talking shit about your job and integrity. Something that is essential to provide for you wife and kids. I would be mad aswell
hyperbanjo [#41]I'm not very good at listening to English, so you can tell me what Ardiis said to him.
he half accused a team of leaking scrims
Marshal_D_Teach [#47]Bro, imagine someone important talking shit about your job and integrity. Something that is essential to provide for you wife and kids. I would be mad aswell
Reminds me of Brazil witching hunting leaf back in the day.
Half of those fuckers still haven't apologized
hyperbanjo [#41]I'm not very good at listening to English, so you can tell me what Ardiis said to him.
ardiis isnt speaking english hes speaking Liverpudlian (english with a scouse accent) do not worry about not being able to understand him, lots of people from the UK can't lmao
ASTEROIDCHILD [#40]ardiis saying some shit on stream is not gonna meaningfully impact a t2 brazilian teams prospects can we get real
like if he actually thought anyone would cheat or leak shit NRG would go to riot lol. this is just him being dumb on purpose to be entertaining
idk, he does need to address it
but yes knowing ardiis history its very much him just being dumb/farming impressions rather than them actually accusing Loud + TBK
a rough one if that clip is the entirety of it though
capital_d_colon [#49]Reminds me of Brazil witching hunting leaf back in the day.
Half of those fuckers still haven't apologized
2 wrongs don't make 1 right. This is not math exercise, brother.
I can only say for myself that I don't agree what people did against Leaf and Xeppaa.
Marshal_D_Teach [#53]2 wrongs don't make 1 right. This is not math exercise, brother.
I can only say for myself that I don't agree what people did against Leaf and Xeppaa.
No but it should serve as a reminder that baseless clips out of context shouldn't hold this much weight
BigTiddyMilf [#13]Holy shit all the Brazilian flags swarmed in here LOL
I dont have a horse in this race btw, obviously if they did cheat or they didn't we would never know unless someone outright says it.
My take: I dont think a team lead by Saadhak who is such a sweetheart would allow other teams to leak strats. A fan asked Saadhak on stream like a month ago if they would leak strats to SENTINELS because Fnatic were scared to scrim with LOUD for that reason. Saadhak joked around or something and said he will tell Pancs (pANcada) but he wasnt serious obviously. So yea, I dont think Saadhak would allow that type of shittery.
saadhak has always been vocal about finding unethical to leak information from scrims.
ryotz were a guest of the Brazilian cast on the day of the match and, this part is an assumption, as tuyz's ex-team mate, i imagine he greeted tuyz and other loud's player before the game.
i find weird how fast ardiis jumped to conclusions
i mean isnt it similar to for example nrg scrims m80, and then m80's player nismo duo queues with zekken for ranked. like just coz zekken and nismo were chilling together and nismo pracced against nrg doesnt mean he has to share info. and secondly its quite common for teams to leak comps and vods of scrims and shit. boaster on the hiko sliggy sgares podcast said that they didnt prac loud when they came to eu for bootcamp because they were facing sentinels and it would be very likely that the guys on both teams still talk a lot with each other. so they totally avoided praccing a team like loud. nrg obviously knows what comes with shit like this. these are excuses as its never going to get proven and you'll come out as just crybabies. not knowing ever who was right
AladdinINSANE [#46]he said ''there is no way this guys didn't show our scrim to them (loud)''
Thank you, my Brazilian bro.
If you made the statement without proof, that is a big problem.
did anyone here actually watch the stream? the final message was that they didn't cheat...
he literally explained that he was paranoid about them leaking something so he didn't wanna run an exec, but in the end obviously they didn't say anything so the exec would've worked out lol, he was making fun of himself for being so paranoid
TLDR - no he's not trolling, he was telling a whole story and this is just a no context fraction of it lol
brdreamer [#2]Imagine being such a loser to do something like that (accusing someone without proof: plus).
LOUD rent free in his head lol.The sense of superiority is so high that he tries to find ways to blame others for being a loser, imagine that...
Ardiis always does this. He also accused several players in EU
brdreamer [#18]Imagine with the sense of "farming" accusing someone and risking his life/job by doing so. If that is his intention I think that Riot should investigate this and do something about it. I mean, he is part of the franchise now, Riot names are on it as well and there are rules.
nothing is at risk as of now?
Has riot started a investigation?
Have any other players spoke up saying they KNOW they gave LOUD info cause Ardiss didn’t even do that y’all listen to the beginning of a clip and make your mind up when he literally said he doesn’t know (regardless he shouldn’t but look how easy it is to farm tf out of you guys over him explaining a story) Stay tilted over something small asf like this for all I care when in reality it’ll blow over like nothing happened
capital_d_colon [#56]No but it should serve as a reminder that baseless clips out of context shouldn't hold this much weight
Wait, you’re telling me a 46 second clip of a pro player with no filter watching a 43 minute documentary about their tournament run can be taken out of context and turned into a sensationalist soundbite?
uentzoul [#16]bruh the guy literally makes a false accusation that could harm TBK in finding future trainings and it's the fans who are being baited, common american user
this was an example of NA fans just taking everything wrong their idols do as troll or joke. like lol he just said career affecting shit to a player justifying his loss in some way
love_trial [#62]did anyone here actually watch the stream? the final message was that they didn't cheat...
he literally explained that he was paranoid about them leaking something so he didn't wanna run an exec, but in the end obviously they didn't say anything so the exec would've worked out lol, he was making fun of himself for being so paranoid
TLDR - no he's not trolling, he was telling a whole story and this is just a no context fraction of it lol
do you have the full clip? havent been able to find it by just scrolling through
blazennn [#66]nothing is at risk as of now?
Has riot started a investigation?
Have any other players spoke up saying they KNOW they gave LOUD info cause Ardiss didn’t even do that y’all listen to the beginning of a clip and make your mind up when he literally said he doesn’t know (regardless he shouldn’t but look how easy it is to farm tf out of you guys over him explaining a story) Stay tilted over something small asf like this for all I care when in reality it’ll blow over like nothing happened
its not farming. riot investigation doesnt start 1 hour after something happens. what the fuck are your arguments. and as much as its about risk, its also about pr. NA lives in their bubble and only read and consume from that bubble. brazil and this player + the teams from br in general got so bad reputation from this. just coz people are angry and talking about it doesnt, mean ardiis meant it to farm. he was just trying to give shitty excuses, like he has done before
Targu1n [#70]do you have the full clip? havent been able to find it by just scrolling through
you have to watch the whole thing through. he takes like 30min to tell the full story because he's reacting to a 45 min documentary
Martinao [#64]Ardiis always does this. He also accused several players in EU
Did he lose the matches before accusing? If yes, then we have a "sore loser" diagnosis.
love_trial [#72]you have to watch the whole thing through. he takes like 30min to tell the full story because he's reacting to a 45 min documentary
ye am currently 20 mins in to the vod, just havent gotten to that section yet
Ardiis makes it entertaining ngl
JokesOver [#63]ardiis clearly says "I'm not saying they did it" ...
''im not saying they did it but there is no way they haven't show our scrim to them''
symbols07 [#71]its not farming. riot investigation doesnt start 1 hour after something happens. what the fuck are your arguments. and as much as its about risk, its also about pr. NA lives in their bubble and only read and consume from that bubble. brazil and this player + the teams from br in general got so bad reputation from this. just coz people are angry and talking about it doesnt, mean ardiis meant it to farm. he was just trying to give shitty excuses, like he has done before
Riot isn’t going to launch a investigation over it have u not watched the full clip that is my point💀 He literally stated it was more of a mental block that hurt him in the end cause he let it get to him thinking they could have leaked their scrims. But I mean yea it’s a shitty excuse but don’t gotta be all this.
zeldrols [#67]Bro these drama just make NA league more hype lol
Now imagine NRG VS any brazilian team KEKW
love_trial [#62]did anyone here actually watch the stream? the final message was that they didn't cheat...
he literally explained that he was paranoid about them leaking something so he didn't wanna run an exec, but in the end obviously they didn't say anything so the exec would've worked out lol, he was making fun of himself for being so paranoid
TLDR - no he's not trolling, he was telling a whole story and this is just a no context fraction of it lol
This is the classic case of "criticize then praise/quick to make amends": you passive-aggressively suggest something bad about someone then right after you say something opposite to get away without retaliation.
symbols07 [#69]this was an example of NA fans just taking everything wrong their idols do as troll or joke. like lol he just said career affecting shit to a player justifying his loss in some way
Always like that,when things get serious is always a "joke" or a "bait" excuse
Marshal_D_Teach [#53]2 wrongs don't make 1 right. This is not math exercise, brother.
I can only say for myself that I don't agree what people did against Leaf and Xeppaa.
the majority still think xeppa and leaf cheated though, so your personal opinion doesnt really mean anything. and that situation was MUCHH worse than this lol
Safzz [#85]now thats punishable. i hope riot does something for this defamation without evidence
yes! i was thinking punishment by death! thoughts ?
NightBeam [#84]This is the classic case of "criticize then praise/quick to make amends": you passive-aggressively suggest something bad about someone then right after you say something opposite to get away without retaliation.
that is the least generous interpretation, yes
or its part of a setup for a story that you’re telling on stream, which is the actual reality
NG1nS [#93]oh he definitely did
just the only thing he could be talking about... ardiis had absolutely 0 evidence for it and niesow was never proven to be cheating in val but his history in other games is interesting
mave [#86]i only know about niesow and he could have been right on that one
Modt circumstances make it so that niesow cheating is the most realistic scenario, so it makes he accused him
jumb0 [#88]the majority still think xeppa and leaf cheated though, so your personal opinion doesnt really mean anything. and that situation was MUCHH worse than this lol
Guy was talking to me like I was doing double standards, then basically my opinion on that event means smth to the conversation.
But idk, for you the most important thing is that ardiis play for a NA team, so he can talk whatever shit he wants.
vineyard__ [#98]Definitely normal to have outsiders in your team room minutes before the game!
What do you mean? Ryotzz was interviewed that day by Riot Brazil and this area is where all the players stay together before the game, not separated. He was there just like any other player/interviewed.
You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/r1BMCp-pWbY?t=445
NG1nS [#81]lmfaoooo
https://www.vlr.gg/170160/fnatic-refused-scrims-with-loud
Even made a thread about it acting all coy and shit
brdreamer [#100]What do you mean? Ryotzz was interviewed that day by Riot Brazil and this area is where all the players stay together before the game, not separated. He was there just like any other player/interviewed.
You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/r1BMCp-pWbY?t=445
Ele não se importa, cara. Ele e aquele tal de jumb0 (esse aqui tem um histórico de mensagens completo falando merda/torcendo contra o Brasil).
BoDork [#20]the impression farm is great with this one
So funny to "farm" in the chance to fuck up the entire carrer of a player.
capital_d_colon [#49]Reminds me of Brazil witching hunting leaf back in the day.
Half of those fuckers still haven't apologized
Why would people apologize? Isn't it strange that Leaf, xeta, vanity and mce have ever won somethin on LAN? It's impressive to me how they could win so much online t2 tournaments but never performed on LAN. In Valorant, the history repeats itself. C9 hasn't won shit.
Marshal_D_Teach [#103]Ele não se importa, cara. Ele e aquele tal de jumb0 (esse aqui tem um histórico de mensagens completo falando merda/torcendo contra o Brasil).
Esse jumb0 é só um imbecil xenofóbico mesmo, o outro eu não sei, pode ser só um idiota.
AladdinINSANE [#44]bunch of na users and some emea braindead thinking that everything is about farming and baiting...this type of acussation could end someones career for nothing...wtf, would like that someone in your work did false acussations and then just justify saying '' i was joking?'' it is serious bro...imagine being ryotzz? his dream is to be part of franchise and then someone bigger than you acussing of being dishonest? bunch of kids u guys are.
these guys are disgusting af i can't really believe they can live in that way
brobeans [#30]W ardiis
He literally choked towards the end of that game missing easy shots. And bro is blaming someone else on the loss.
mave [#94]just the only thing he could be talking about... ardiis had absolutely 0 evidence for it and niesow was never proven to be cheating in val but his history in other games is interesting
You really think he didn’t cheat? Hahahaha
Marshal_D_Teach [#7]Disappointed on Ardiis. He should show some proof for a serious shit to say or it is just a empty accusation.
What proof you want?
That he scrimmed his team 3 times and then was chilling with LOUD guys ?
lorenzopajaroFC [#101]https://www.vlr.gg/170160/fnatic-refused-scrims-with-loud
Even made a thread about it acting all coy and shit
Top tier teams dont want to scrim other condenders ?
its not that crazy too see in esports.
LouBag [#115]You really think he didn’t cheat? Hahahaha
i never said that i think he was legit just that there's no actual evidence for him cheating in val... you can still cheat without it ever getting confirmed
xD1LL4N [#116]What proof you want?
That he scrimmed his team 3 times and then was chilling with LOUD guys ?
Read again what you said and try to find any proof about his accusation. Did he recorded something Ryotzz said in that convo or nah? Can he show a factual evidence or he is just imagining things?
Marshal_D_Teach [#120]Read again what you said and try to find any proof about his accusation. Did he recorded something Ryotzz said in that convo or nah? Can he show a factual evidence or he is just imagining things?
he speculated a possible outcome which is not that far fetched.
xD1LL4N [#122]he speculated a possible outcome which is not that far fetched.
But the impact of those speculations in someone else life is enough to not telling them without concret evidence.
Ryotzz and Matheuzin (another tbk player) have wives and kids to provide
makewar [#57]saadhak has always been vocal about finding unethical to leak information from scrims.
ryotz were a guest of the Brazilian cast on the day of the match and, this part is an assumption, as tuyz's ex-team mate, i imagine he greeted tuyz and other loud's player before the game.
i find weird how fast ardiis jumped to conclusions
he isn't just tuyz's ex-teammate, ryotzz and kon4n were almost like valorant fathers for tuyz, tuyz was about to give up on being a pro and kon4n/ryotzz convinced him to stay and to become part of their team. Those two actually changed tuyz's life
spoken [#114]seems to be a very controversial topic. didnt expect this to be so talked about, im not taking sides tho.
I've learned about not putting my hand on fire for no one, so I did not taking sides as well... BUT, that's a really hard and heavy accusations, that can even ruin a life job and all your reputation
so it's really a sensible subject to talk about into a stream with thousands of ppl watching
xD1LL4N [#117]Top tier teams dont want to scrim other condenders ?
its not that crazy too see in esports.
You completely misconstrued the issue, it’s isn’t about not wanting to prac against Loud because they might compete against them, it’s about not wanting to prac with loud because they don’t trust those guys to not leak info
Same thing that ardiis is accusing them of doing here with absolutely no evidence
lorenzopajaroFC [#127]You completely misconstrued the issue, it’s isn’t about not wanting to prac against Loud because they might compete against them, it’s about not wanting to prac with loud because they don’t trust those guys to not leak info
Same thing that ardiis is accusing them of doing here with absolutely no evidence
Source on Fnatic ever saying that ????
xD1LL4N [#128]Source on Fnatic ever saying that ????
Bro’s beefing with a 2 month old topic, but if you insist
https://youtu.be/fYvjdnoyYTg 2:39:00
lorenzopajaroFC [#131]Bro’s beefing with a 2 month old topic, but if you insist
https://youtu.be/fYvjdnoyYTg 2:39:00
FNC been doing that with scrim partners since before iceland 2021.
NG1nS [#133]wait actually? i thought he missed
Put on 0.25 speed and pay attention to the sound and the number of bullets. His crosshairs passed Tuyz during the pixel opening, and he was killed before he could correct with a flick.
Lack of caution to open the pixel + precision and insane reaction from tuyz
turkey [#130]sorry if i’m not understanding the video ardiis is kinda hard to understand but didn’t he say he doesn’t actually think he did that?
yes and throughout the stream explains it a little more coming to the conclusion they didn’t actually leak scrims just something Ardiss had thought could happen due to circumstances.
brdreamer [#2]Imagine being such a loser to do something like that (accusing someone without proof: plus).
LOUD rent free in his head lol.The sense of superiority is so high that he tries to find ways to blame others for being a loser, imagine that...
Watch the whole vod he did not say that he leaked it
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