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Gwangju Esports Series Asia

Main Event: Upper Semifinals

Saturday, November 26th

2:55 AM EST

Patch 5.10

Talon Esports

[1881]

final

2 : 0

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Bo3

ZETA DIVISION

[1824]

TLN ban Pearl; ZETA ban Fracture; TLN pick Icebox; ZETA pick Ascent; TLN ban Breeze; ZETA ban Bind; Haven remains

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Talon Esports

9 / 4

Icebox PICK

48:57

ZETA DIVISION

3 / 7

TLN

ZETA

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Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Crws TLN	1.65 1.69 1.60	356 415 303	27 14 13	/ 16 11 5 /	8 4 4	+11 +3 +8	96% 100% 92%	218 245 194	22% 16% 31%	6 3 3	1 1 0	+5 +2 +3
JitBoyS TLN	1.23 1.19 1.28	253 232 273	21 10 11	/ 18 10 8 /	9 0 9	+3 0 +3	78% 55% 100%	149 140 158	38% 27% 55%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1
Sushiboys TLN	0.81 0.34 1.23	201 129 268	15 3 12	/ 17 10 7 /	5 2 3	-2 -7 +5	61% 55% 67%	141 95 183	21% 27% 19%	3 1 2	2 1 1	+1 0 +1
foxz TLN	0.69 0.30 1.05	155 121 187	13 4 9	/ 17 11 6 /	4 2 2	-4 -7 +3	65% 64% 67%	113 82 143	29% 23% 32%	1 1 0	3 1 2	-2 0 -2
garnetS TLN	0.50 0.02 1.08	123 40 199	10 1 9	/ 17 11 6 /	0 0 0	-7 -10 +3	52% 18% 83%	77 29 120	19% 20% 18%	3 0 3	2 2 0	+1 -2 +3

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Laz ZETA	1.27 1.28 1.25	260 302 216	21 12 9	/ 16 11 5 /	3 1 2	+5 +1 +4	70% 50% 91%	168 185 150	19% 23% 12%	3 1 2	4 2 2	-1 -1 0
SugarZ3ro ZETA	1.03 0.82 1.25	234 195 278	18 7 11	/ 20 12 8 /	11 3 8	-2 -5 +3	70% 58% 82%	148 126 172	23% 23% 24%	2 1 1	1 1 0	+1 0 +1
crow ZETA	0.99 0.70 1.31	167 123 217	15 6 9	/ 14 13 1 /	2 1 1	+1 -7 +8	70% 58% 82%	102 77 128	24% 50% 15%	1 0 1	2 1 1	-1 -1 0
Dep ZETA	0.88 0.48 1.33	194 88 311	16 3 13	/ 18 10 8 /	6 3 3	-2 -7 +5	78% 67% 91%	130 76 188	24% 11% 31%	2 0 2	4 2 2	-2 -2 0
TENNN ZETA	0.82 0.38 1.31	202 106 308	15 4 11	/ 18 10 8 /	8 1 7	-3 -6 +3	65% 50% 82%	129 64 200	22% 44% 18%	1 1 0	3 3 0	-2 -2 0

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	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Crws TLN	1.46 1.33 1.39	290 315 258	46 24 22	/ 33 19 14 /	22 12 10	+13 +5 +8	88% 96% 80%	177 188 167	21% 19% 24%	7 4 3	3 3 0	+4 +1 +3
JitBoyS TLN	1.49 1.07 1.27	227 224 226	40 21 19	/ 33 14 19 /	26 9 17	+7 +7 0	78% 71% 84%	137 138 136	28% 22% 37%	2 0 2	3 1 2	-1 -1 0
Sushiboys TLN	0.59 1.25 0.93	198 116 278	34 9 25	/ 33 17 16 /	9 4 5	+1 -8 +9	71% 71% 72%	131 89 171	24% 22% 24%	4 2 2	3 1 2	+1 +1 0
foxz TLN	1.02 0.81 0.91	186 211 167	31 18 13	/ 36 19 17 /	18 9 9	-5 -1 -4	71% 79% 64%	128 133 124	19% 18% 20%	3 2 1	4 1 3	-1 +1 -2
garnetS TLN	0.71 0.89 0.77	172 170 179	29 13 16	/ 36 21 15 /	3 2 1	-7 -8 +1	61% 54% 68%	109 113 105	25% 34% 15%	11 5 6	9 5 4	+2 0 +2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
SugarZ3ro ZETA	1.52 1.04 1.28	253 262 247	45 24 21	/ 36 17 19 /	19 8 11	+9 +7 +2	69% 72% 67%	168 175 161	27% 28% 27%	5 4 1	2 1 1	+3 +3 0
crow ZETA	0.95 1.10 1.02	184 152 221	34 16 18	/ 31 20 11 /	11 5 6	+3 -4 +7	76% 68% 83%	117 96 139	28% 36% 24%	2 0 2	5 1 4	-3 -1 -2
Laz ZETA	0.95 0.97 0.96	188 204 162	31 17 14	/ 32 19 13 /	9 5 4	-1 -2 +1	67% 60% 75%	123 132 114	18% 25% 9%	4 1 3	8 4 4	-4 -3 -1
TENNN ZETA	0.70 0.83 0.76	200 169 233	30 13 17	/ 42 21 21 /	18 6 12	-12 -8 -4	67% 64% 71%	134 119 150	23% 27% 21%	3 2 1	5 4 1	-2 -2 0
Dep ZETA	0.60 0.88 0.73	175 132 218	31 11 20	/ 39 20 19 /	8 5 3	-8 -9 +1	71% 68% 75%	107 88 127	22% 16% 27%	8 4 4	7 4 3	+1 0 +1

Talon Esports

3 / 9 / 2

Ascent PICK

52:55

ZETA DIVISION

9 / 3 / 0

TLN

ZETA

TLN

ZETA

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	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
JitBoyS TLN	1.31 1.74 0.87	200 217 183	19 11 8	/ 15 4 11 /	17 9 8	+4 +7 -3	77% 85% 69%	127 137 117	20% 19% 22%	1 0 1	2 0 2	-1 0 -1
Crws TLN	1.17 1.26 1.08	223 231 217	19 10 9	/ 17 8 9 /	14 8 6	+2 +2 0	81% 92% 69%	141 140 143	20% 24% 16%	1 1 0	2 2 0	-1 -1 0
foxz TLN	1.11 1.63 0.59	217 286 148	18 14 4	/ 19 8 11 /	14 7 7	-1 +6 -7	77% 92% 62%	142 176 107	15% 17% 11%	2 1 1	1 0 1	+1 +1 0
Sushiboys TLN	1.04 0.81 1.27	195 105 287	19 6 13	/ 16 7 9 /	4 2 2	+3 -1 +4	81% 85% 77%	122 84 160	27% 19% 31%	1 1 0	1 0 1	0 +1 -1
garnetS TLN	1.01 1.30 0.71	220 279 161	19 12 7	/ 19 10 9 /	3 2 1	0 +2 -2	69% 85% 54%	138 184 91	27% 36% 13%	8 5 3	7 3 4	+1 +2 -1

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
SugarZ3ro ZETA	1.51 2.17 0.86	272 324 221	27 17 10	/ 16 5 11 /	8 5 3	+11 +12 -1	69% 85% 54%	186 219 152	30% 30% 31%	3 3 0	1 0 1	+2 +3 -1
crow ZETA	1.05 1.18 0.92	201 179 225	19 10 9	/ 17 7 10 /	9 4 5	+2 +3 -1	81% 77% 85%	131 113 148	31% 30% 32%	1 0 1	3 0 3	-2 0 -2
TENNN ZETA	0.70 0.98 0.42	198 227 169	15 9 6	/ 24 11 13 /	10 5 5	-9 -2 -7	69% 77% 62%	139 171 108	24% 23% 26%	2 1 1	2 1 1	0 0 0
Laz ZETA	0.69 0.65 0.73	115 114 117	10 5 5	/ 16 8 8 /	6 4 2	-6 -3 -3	65% 69% 62%	83 83 84	17% 27% 7%	1 0 1	4 2 2	-3 -2 -1
Dep ZETA	0.60 0.71 0.50	156 174 139	15 8 7	/ 21 10 11 /	2 2 0	-6 -2 -4	65% 69% 62%	87 98 76	19% 19% 19%	6 4 2	3 2 1	+3 +2 +1

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ZETA DIVISION

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Seulgi

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ZETA 2-1?

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blazennn

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Talon 2-1?

Zay301

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ZETA 2-0 or 2-1

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Racis-

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0-2

FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7

-10

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ZETA 2-0 NOT EVEN CLOSE

#39

OGTHOR

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tu phir agya bhadwe ffir match k bad bajega

#104

Loba

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hahahahha

#164

Meaookung145

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ไอควายยยยยย โง่ๆๆๆๆๆ

koromast

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VAMOS ´//,

XqcAbdul

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ez for Pathipan “Pathipan” Chaiwong

CristanchOx

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Pati is back

fusb1re

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didn't see ZETA winning this, especially against pati

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gordonramsay

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zeta is a better team than xerxia (talon) tho? before and after pati. what is this bs

#12

ZhongXina

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Just an Indo guy tried hard to baiting, don't mind him

#13

hanafuji

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no? japanese teams were a punching bag in APAC in 2021 lmao, I agree that zeta is probably gonna win this one but when pati was still in xerxia, xerxia is definitely better than zeta lmao

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gordonramsay

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I think this zeta team has accomplished more and has shown higher potential than patis xerxia. i guess we will have to see tmrw

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Misouri

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iirc pati was never with xerxia, his last team was x10

#21

archetype

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xerxia was x10 with surf instead of pati

#20

R136a1

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you're talking about 2021. wake up.

#33

jimjam789

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I think he means 2022 zeta > 2021 x10

#53

Sephirothz

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pati still has wrist injury and its still getting worse so dont overrated him that much man.

#54

masterX

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overrated pati

jimjam789

-1

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zeta 2-0

r1zz

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Talon 2-1

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gordonramsay

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close game we ll see

#15

zefanyaa

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Without Sscary? Zeta 2-0

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JiangLi

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Talon 2-1 Zeta

#18

Pikmin

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TLN 2-1 ZETA
or Zeta 2-1
either way its definitely close game.
sadge sscary isn't here by jitboys is also very good

#19

JiangLi

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rly want to see jitboys on chamber

#22

BLJY

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talon 2-0 i believe

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BLJY

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Imagine saying zeta wins this

#23

tronunz

-3

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Prathades

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Patiphan porsi clear zeta

#25

Stephane

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Tight match-up, Expected some good Valorant.

#26

Nevermind333

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I heard that pati will be sub

#27

jasonnichol

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TLN 2-1 ZETA

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ZeRUSia

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ZETA 2-0.
13-0
13-0

#29

Domination

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Zeta 2-1

#30

AzShun

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I can't see talon win this match even tho they have Pati, but without sscary it's gonna be hard, maybe 2-0 for Zeta but close match

#31

ShibaInu

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Zeta will win, otherwise Talon win

#32

AiSouksaiphone

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kinda ez 4 talon though

#34

spoiler

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Lets see Jitboys head hunter

#35

Leif

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Wasnt pati injured and benched?

#37

Nevermind333

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Foxz also said this on his twitch

#38

JiangLi

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from their announcement video it looked like pati was the 6th

#36

JiangLi

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why isnt there an english stream with casters ? cutting costs or other reason? They put a english watch party instead lmaoo

#47

pitchfork

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https://twitter.com/paperthinhere/status/1595990664394801154?t=Q45bvXGsCg16fiTvR458GQ&s=19

paperthin is the caster and he said it's the official english broadcast

#40

ufc

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Someone remind me about this match, ok?

#42

shellyy

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there is a thing called alarm. xD

#41

misssscchhh

-1

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Zeta clears these overrated noobs

#43

shellyy

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ZETA will win this.

#44

Ggez78888

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Is he back tomorrow? ! , 😳

#45

luckypleb

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Not expecting a lot from talon but hope to see a banger match

#46

ZeRUSia

-3

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Zeta 2-0 not even close

#48

remnant_Aeher12

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Zeta 2-1

#49

masterX

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Talon need true smoker, no chance to win this match

#51

sad_gambit_fan

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zeta 2-0
talon still needs time but if they win huge for them

#52

An_dH

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zeta 2-0 xerxia downgraded version

surf > injured patiphan
sscary > whomegalul

#55

jirapatq

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talon 2-0

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insanepeeker

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Based

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meteorite

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copium overdose

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aburnie

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Nah, my manz on the good shit. TALON LFG BABYYY!!!!!

#56

defendercf

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no sscary no win?

#58

insanepeeker

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Talon did beat envy at some point.. i believe they can win

#59

melodymur

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patiphan is another level bro, built diff specimen, he will hard clear them mark my words

#60

Katharize

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Lmao

#62

JiangLi

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wtf is this bs man there are ads every 10 mins on the official english stream
can barely hear the interview
L Production

#63

fapcity

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you stupid arent you watching from paper thins stream. That isnt an official stream hes just co streaming it basically

#64

JiangLi

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yes im watching on his streams . There are ads every 10 mins . And he indeed is the english official costream . Production aint good my guy no need to dickride

#65

gordonramsay

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bro go tell singapore hq to go setup their own tournaments ffs stop complaining. And go blame paperthin for putting all those ads. The real stream is in korean so sorry if you cant understand it

#68

JiangLi

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you so stupid bruh . This is an official offseason tournament and there are no proper english streams . Atleast the GXR event had like 3 languages streams lmao

#70

Sprouts

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you would really rather wait +3 hours for matches to start instead of watching 3 ads during the break? that was also a 100k prize pool tournament so production should be higher anyway as well

#72

JiangLi

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no that production was an L . I'm js pointing out issues

#71

gordonramsay

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Idgaf about all that stop complaining about everything. You always wanna say shit about production but singapore aint doing none of that. Until yall setup ur own tourney stop bitching and Ive been on english stream for over 20 mins with no ads. Tf you on about

#73

JiangLi

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ahh bro in a Dickriding competition of a Tournament organizer . Im js pointing out issues theres nothing wrong wit doing that

#75

gordonramsay

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huhhh? dont you think you complain too much? go see some sunlight ffs always on this site placing singapore on a pedestal while shitting on other regions.

#78

JiangLi

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when did i say literally anything bout sg HAHAHA
why so mad i js pointing out basic issue
There shouldnt be double standards with GXR and Gwangju

#79

gordonramsay

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come on you know exactly what I mean dont be clueless now

continue thread →

#67

fapcity

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Im not dickriding production isnt that good but you always say shit when it comes to korea it seems

#69

JiangLi

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HUH ? I shit on GXR as well ? why should this event get special treatment ?

#74

pitchfork

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what u expect from jiangli no 1 kr hater

#76

JiangLi

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pointing out issues = hater

#83

pitchfork

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lmfao no dude u been complaining since ytd saying paperthin stream is a watchparty and now u complaining abt the ads

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luckypleb

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unwatchable tbh

#66

Nevermind333

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Pati said I am here to watch keep fighting Zeta lol

#84

firo

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wait really lmao

#94

Nevermind333

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Yes i know thai but translator didnt translate that lmao

#77

gordonramsay

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talon can win this I think Ive been underrating talon

#81

Djysahkb0i

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Pls add this watch party bruh viewer diff https://www.twitch.tv/viperdemon

#85

gordonramsay

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also we shouldnt take these games too seriously there is way too much time left from now and kick off to be judging this early

#86

Delusional_Latam_Fan

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why did zeta pick ascent?
wasn't it one of their worst maps?

#87

seankuku

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things can change

#88

masterbaiter69

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it's a micky mouse tournament, why not practice??

#151

rosso4000

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koromast

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pati really said "you can beat them without my help"

#93

Marcusgeez

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LEZGO TALON KHAP

#95

iframedeez

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LFGGGGGG TALON

#97

Haoking

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No chance win vs LAZ

#98

insanepeeker

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Stingers too strong 😭😭

#99

ZhongXina

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Mid VS Mid

#101

Nevermind333

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Crws tln smoker version is now reached Sscary level

#102

KlobotXXL

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damn ascent? maybe be 2-0 talon 🙂 maybe not 🙂

#105

Trip11

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lets go talno 🙂 maybe win 🙂 maybe not 🙂

#103

Delusional_Latam_Fan

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I think Zeta will use loud's composition on ascent (will Laz do Jett?)

lets see

#106

Haoking

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1/1 coming

#108

Haoking

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ez 1.9 on 2 map from Zeta eziest 400euro in ma life 🙂

#111

Haoking

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i hate ma life😭😭

#129

KlobotXXL

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dont pick ur favourite team if u're betting ma dude

#107

not_smart_user

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why does the live looks like it was shot in a rainforest

#109

Delusional_Latam_Fan

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that's what happens when you play ascent like Loud

if they copy loud's comp and style in haven as well, ez 1-2 for Zeta

#110

senna11

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💀

#112

stang

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💀💀💀💀💀

#113

sinkyourhead

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ZETA WHOOOOO??????????????????????????

#114

Botkiller69

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Lmao choke zeta

#115

ZeRUSia

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Choketa lost 2-0 KEKW

#116

hangsow

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matchfixing on lan pog

#117

Sprouts

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ZETA ARE YOU OKAY

#118

xoviata

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Zeta choked so hard, GG TALON, cant wait to see their performance in Brazil

#119

sydnobu

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TLN2-0’d these japanese frauds

#120

masterX

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okay.. who's sscary?? we have crws

#138

aburnie

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cCrws*

#139

Stratos

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555555555

#121

SigmaMale

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LMFAO ZETA DISBAND FLUKE TEAM FLUKE ICELAND RUN

#122

koromast

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bruh zeta really did nothing on defense they had literally no idea of how to play at all.

#123

Trip11

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Wow comeback from 12-6 very impressive well played talon!

#124

OWEN

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talon mentality just build diff ggwp good match to watch nt zeta

#125

mon471

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It would have been 13-0 have they invited my “iNd0 sUpErTeam” in this tournament. Indo valorant finest in the world

#130

Ryukk

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So hatefull

#126

Mikko

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ZETA go disband now

#127

RandomCloud

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That's just sad honestly... I was hoping for map 3

#128

hangsow

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haha laz chamber abuser cant play other hero xd

#155

acels

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hero? u playing dota?

#163

LegacyKnight

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Overwatch xd

#131

Yuranagi

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God damn

#132

redlight

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A most unfortunate circumstance. For the love of God, move Dep to a flex role, he’s very inconsistent on Jett. They could’ve gotten a Japanese Jett demon like Anthem or Marin. The rest of ZETA looked alright.

Good on Talon though, garnetS really turned up in the last 6 rounds.

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tofubun

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dep has like the best raw aim in japan, the problem is ten been shit for a while now

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archetype

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"the rest of ZETA looked alright"

crow sucked and so did TENNN
only Laz and SugarZ3ro played well

#135

Siege_

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Imagine lost to tier c team

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Siege_

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down frags for what ?

#136

Delusional_SA_fan

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TALON IS REALLY FUCKING GOOD, ZETA IS NOT BAD

#140

GetFreeRobux

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All those who said Zeta 2-0 Talon💀💀💀💀💀

#141

Adri98

-6

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Its easy speak after the match.

#143

iframedeez

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nah mofos underestimating how good the core trio of Xerxia

#142

OIII

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who said zeta would win?

#144

Skyss

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LOLOL pati still on the bench btw

#145

insanepeeker

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How do you lose from 12 6 on ct?!!!

#146

ranjank27

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why patiphan is not playing?

#147

catmeister

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where is pati?

#148

delusional_TH

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wrist injure + want new players to try play lan for the first time

#156

tofubun

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so will he be in main roster for vct?

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BLJY

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we don't know yet

#149

BLJY

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Ppl still think zeta is top top tier just because they had one really fluke run and have cool epic anime storylines cus ppl are weirdly obsessed with Japan. Keep underrating us, keeping underrating APAC talent, keep underrating Thailand, we’re here to play fr💯

#152

Stratos

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W take

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AntiWest

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Well said, I swear the weebs here keep white knighting zeta for some reason.

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BLJY

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yeah fr. like don't get me wrong, I am a weeb and i love japan but jeez people are just weird as fuck keeps fetishizing it and thinks everyone thing from japan is good, and even if it is not they unreasonably support it anyway. like back when japan was bad at valorant people were rooting for them just because they were japan and cool. like there were valid reasons for wanting japan to succeed as a region, namely the investment and viewership it has, but istg most people weren't rooting for them because of that.

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yungbasel

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Some of what you say is true, but to be fair, alot of people root for Japanese teams because the players and the fans are the least problematic out of all regions. That's all there is to it.

At least half of NA, EMEA, APAC fans are cunts (maybe 75% for NA 8-) ). The players talk alot of shit too. But you don't really see that from Japanese players / fans. So of course people like and want them to do well.

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BLJY

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I get your point, but I think that mostly has to do with the language barrier because most Japanese people and fans don't speak English, so you don't really see anything of the bad stuff when it happens. Japan has been known to have one of the most toxic idols and celebrity cultures in the world, although I don't speak Japanese, I'm sure there is a lot of really toxic criticism from Japanese fans that we don't see. As I said, there are probably still a lot of cunts within Japanese esports (players and fans) and we just don't see them, as an example, I present Fisker lol.

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delusional_TH

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I understand Japanese and usually read chat in Japan channel I would say yes there are some toxic chat from Japanese but compare to other region channels japan is the nicest lol especially when you compare with SEA channel you will see the huge different haha

#161

makuuun7357

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GG both team.
Very exiting to see both of them in next year's league.