kick off tournament question

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jimjam789

the winner gets their region an extra slot for masters right? wouldnt there be 13 teams which messes up the format?

#2

kaesra

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basically if eu win then eu get extra slot if im not mistaken

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Iper

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we don't know if masters will continue with 12 slots, it might be 15 slots next time + the extra slot

#4

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It depends how many teams go
If top 5 go then
5+5+5+1 = 16 which is nice for a playoff bracket
If it's 3+3+3+1 = 10 it can be split into groups of 5

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5 is way too much in a 10 team league, that's mid table teams making it to an international event. That's not competitive

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SuzyVLR

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It would be 10 team (TOP 3 EMEA + TOP 3 PACIFIC + TOP 3 AMERICAS + 4TH PLACE INTL LEAGUE FROM REGION WHO WON KICK OFF BRAZIL) in masters 2023

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nice

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PRLV

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10 team masters, especially after a 30 team tournament is a major L from rito. Hope they reconsider and make it 5 from each region and winner gets an extra slot so 5+5+5+1 = 16 teams

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SnooTangerines

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It literally says it in the name - "kickoff".

They just want to start off the premiere with a bang and showcase all the 30 teams on an international stage.

But seeing how ass some franchise teams are looking they definitely should not make it to every international tournament else there would be no incentive to play and be better.

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PRLV

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IMO 5 teams is perfect, looking at EMEA for example top 5 would probably be NaVi Fnatic Liquid KOI Giants. Thats all your top teams, and still one or 2 underdogs who can make a run if the stars align

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SnooTangerines

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If all the decent teams make it, and no one gets rejected, there is no fun. There is no competition without heartbreaks and failures.

If Riot could, they could just ask all VCT teams to come to Berlin and play tournaments there, that is not how it works.

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SnooTangerines

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3 regions, divide those slots amongs them.

To make a good tournament bracket you need 8, 10, 12 or 16 teams.

If they get 3 top teams from all the 3 regions, that makes 9 teams + the extra slot.

It wont work out with 11+1 = 12 teams since 11 cannot be divided by 3.

It will work with the 15+1 = 16 teams format as then there will be 5 teams from all the regions.

So masters will either be 10 teams or 16 teams if Riot follows this math.

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JiangLi

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Masters will likely be 10 and champions will be 16

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JsT

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champs will be 12 - 9 circuit + 3 lcq as the 1 bonus slot is for masters only

#13

jimjam789

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probably china for that 1 extra to make 16 teams

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JsT

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nope , china will not have a path to champs and champs will have 12 slots with 9 being circuit and 3 lcq