who can realistically challenge Fnatic next year

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queueK

the 2023 roster (assuming Chronicle gets in) looks absolutely untouchable. Every player other than Boaster is top 3 firepower in their role minimum and they have historically good support staff.

From the Americas region, I would say LOUD or Optic are close but they no longer exist and don't have any proven replacement. SEN seems to be the second best, or C9 if they pick up a few more players aside from Yay but I think Dephh is half the igl that FNS was and also that none of C9 match Fnatic outside Yay and Leaf.

In APAC, PRX and DRX are the only real competition currently.

In EMEA, I don't think there's a single team that is able to beat Fnatic.

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If thats the only competition, I might have to step in.

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me too

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me five
roster done

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Vampli

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And I'm CEO....Tfys

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I have your clips (kappa moment)

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meepooh

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C9, NRG, SEN, 100T

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TL,Navi exist.

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tl has a weak link in soulcas, and navi will be a true competitor, for me they have honestly upgraded with cned

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JsT

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cant wait for soulcas to surprise you , fnatic wont win anything . Boaster fire power is laughable compared to redgar's so in terms of fire power liquid is better + redgar calls are top tier

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boaster fire power is better(statistically) then fns angel dephh benkai and other igls. he had almost the same acs as the "best controller in the world" marved while igling. sure soulcas can surprise. (i do believe he has a vry cracked aim, but i think he'll do better in a smoke role instead of a flasher role). and i respect redgar and agree with all you said about him.

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Saadhak and Redgar are the most proven fragging igls worldwide, but I agree boaster isn’t a massive drag bc of his mechanics. I do think his tendency to micromanage harms them sometimes tho.

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totally agree, he still isnt a perfect igl. but atleast he isnt dragging his team down in terms of fragging. like mini said on twitter, they are trying to work on boaster's midrounding and other stuff igl related

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I don't think cned is an upgrade nor is he a downgrade. Ardiis is literally the 2nd best chamber in the world

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that was his peak. he honestly wasnt the same in emea, if he can continue his form sure. bbut what we saw in both lans was him performing his best ever.

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GreyDaze

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His peak is his most recent performances. So acc to recent performances,ardiis>cned

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yup, but honestly cned can do better and that is why i said what i did

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Obviously he's got the most potential among every other player in the world especially in a team with Shao,suygetsu and zyppan who can set him up nicely

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so yea, ardiis achieved that with this squad, now cned will hopefully do even better with this squad

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I’m the 2 years soulcas has been in Liquid he hasn’t been the weak link even once

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lol, ok, this season watch with your eyes open

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you forget about RRQ and EG

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*MIBR + Giants

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SEN, SEN, and SEN

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u mean SENt home

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Everyone is sent home eventually tho

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*SENt home first

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copium

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Dont get me wrong theyre good but i think your way over estimating them.

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Navi

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Zenithh

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i swear this thread gets posted everytime a fnatic roster change happens and it never ages well

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queueK

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I will post this thread everytime a fnatic roster change happens until it ages well

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:D

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well given their trend it's looking like they will be very beatable until either boaster or mini (or both) get axed
maybe this will be the roster to prove otherwise

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but why

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Germanium

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Y'all fnatic fans always be on copium talking how fnatic is the best team in the world but in reality they couldn't do shit

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2nd
4th
5th-6th
+multiple domestic tourney wins

your so right bro

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Not exactly the best team in the world tho, right?

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Sushi_

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but in reality they couldn't do shit

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not every team is the best in the world forever. fnc's record is better than a sentinels one who realistically only performed well in one tournament

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Dude they literally won 1 domestic tourney and that was before Copenhagen this year. Somehow they are always cursed to come 2nd.

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Sushi_

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waiting for fnatic to go out somewhere between 6th and 4th. Istg there cursed to flop every lan
Fr though, prx and drx are definitely contenders. I have a feeling either Gen.G, or Detonation are going to make a world class korean/japanese superteam and with the talent depth of both of those regions they could absolutely be an international contender

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Prx got grouped lmao, they're finished, fpx exposed them

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Vianx11

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loud comes second in iceland
get grouped in copen
wins istanbul

prx comes second
gets grouped
its prx time baby

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Valgod

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Fnatic comes second in Iceland
Don't qualify to masters Berlin
Barely reach top 6 at champs
Its Prx time to repeat them

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gonfreacks

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Wll....you made a really wrong comparison. right comparison for you
Fnatic come 2nd, DID NOT QUALIFY to Berlin
PRX come 2nd, QUALIFY TO Champs

Tried to make a equivalent comparison
ENVY/OPTIC (2nd Master Berlin - GET GROUPED in Champs 2021 - Won Reykjavík 2022)
LOUD (2nd Reykjavík - GET GROUPED in Copenhagen - Won the Champs 2022)

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ye

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Sprouts

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KOI, KC, NAVI, VIT, TL, TH, BBL, GIA, FUT
C9, NRG, LEV, FUR, MIBR, SEN, KRU, LOUD, 100T, EG
GENG, DNG, TLN, GE, TS, ZETA, T1, DRX, PRX

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Chirby

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can only beat argh argh queue 💀

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SnooTangerines

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Where is ARGH ARGH QUE?

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damn fnatic fans really have faith in their team

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TL, NAVI, LOUD, NRG

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Fluke team wont do shit, will get clapped domestically

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Overestimating them way too early, they look solid tho

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EMEA: Navi ,TL
Americas: LOUD, C9, 100T, SEN (possibly)
Pacific: PRX, DRX
so more teams than you guys might expect

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c9 probably, 100t no, sen is more likely then any other america team you mentioned. pacific is good, but prx needs to highly evolve they cant expect to do the same aggressive only gameplay like they did in 2022. it got countered in 6 months, enough so that they got grouped

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lev,drx,c9(if they dont choke), nrg, NAVI,TL
able to win 1 map or put up a fight: zeta,t1,Loud,100T,sen,KOi,VIT

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Vianx11

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prx?

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Here we come with the Fnatic fans overhyping their team to the moon only for them to disappoint once again

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GE, RRQ

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GE

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NASR Esports ^_^

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Lenny Time might take them to OT and defeat

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i am a big FNC fan but i definitely wouldn't say that nobody can beat them
last year they looked insane online and then kinda disappointed on lan

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This

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makoidk

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RRQ KEKW

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Vampli

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Skrossi clears

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spookmeister

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FNC fans literally every single time they make a roster change:
"We are the best team in the world."
loses
next roster change
"We are the best team in the world."
loses
next roster change
"We are the best team in the world."
loses
next roster change
"We are the best team in the world."
lo

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FUT, EG, MIBR, FURIA, BBL, RRQ Ezzzzzzzz

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Perma

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RRQ Clears

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Every season we have this discussion and they always bottle lmao

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Noyn

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Leviatan clears easily

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we are tired

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Derke is not top 3 chamber

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Yay>ardiis>derke=cryo

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ardiis was carried by shao and suygetsu

cryo=yay>TenZ>Wardell>bdog>>>>>>>>>>>>ardiis>derke

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IMO cryo is better than Derke

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Look at Champs stats. Derke had better stats than cryo but since xset made it farther than fnc,I put them both on same level

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True, everyone else is already playing for second placd

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Average "We look untouchable after a roster change" stage in the life of an average fnatic fan which runs in a perpetual loop.

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Fnatic will never be a threat until they get a real IGL

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agreed rare W from you

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Lenny Time aka mocking esports clears

But serious answer: NAVI, TL, C9, NRG, 100T, SEN, LOUD, LEV, DRX, PRX, maybe T1/GenG depending

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Fnatic is a bit overrated. I will admit, they are looking good. But with teams like NRG, DRX and Sentinels in the game, hard to say what adding Leo and Chronicle will do to boost their performance.

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NRG?
Wake up dude

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they are gonna struggle internally like always

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Provided they fail this time, who is going to be kicked next?

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Navi is tier 1, fnatic, liqiud, kcorp tier 1,5 others are irrelevant

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NAVI will surprise everyone

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aged well

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Kekw the Fnatic doubters in this thread can cry now🗿

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THE GUARD