GENG >>>>> anyone else
unknown_trash [#8]so TH just doesn't exist anymore?
They got owned by lulquid they don't deserve to qualify if you get destroyed by them
unknown_trash [#8]so TH just doesn't exist anymore?
4-13 4-13 7-13 against shitquid invalidates them
Astar [#11]the only reason GenG lost cus they got outaimed sadly
Isn't that PRX whole gameplan lilbro? JUST OUTAIM EVERYBODY LMAO
vision2k [#13]Isn't that PRX whole gameplan lilbro? JUST OUTAIM EVERYBODY LMAO
cant outaim everybody if they died to util first #WGAMING doesnt work anymore in meta where vyse and tejo exist
phazerk [#20]dude said 100t
Easily. Lost the Americas #2 and NRG, who looked like what NRG SHOULD HAVE actually looked like. Definely wouldn't lose to trace T1 or liquid.
Toph_ [#23]Easily. Lost the Americas #2 and NRG, who looked like what NRG SHOULD HAVE actually looked like. Definely wouldn't lose to trace T1 or liquid.
T1 and Liquid will violate 100 shitcans, that organization is never getting close to an international VCT title EVER lmao
Even EG has better chances than them
BEHEMOTH [#24]T1 and Liquid will violate 100 shitcans, that organization is never getting close to an international VCT title EVER lmao
Even EG has better chances than them
What was the last title T1 and Liquid were close to getting again? Didn't EG lose 13-3 to a team 100T walked over?
BEHEMOTH [#21]Both KC and GX are very good. Sayf literally said the same 2 days ago.
I expect atleast one of them to compete for the title in next 2 events. They get too much validation from rest of EMEA.
I’m a KC believer but be real, right now they are just expectations. Sayf is obviously going to gas his own region up
Toph_ [#23]Easily. Lost the Americas #2 and NRG, who looked like what NRG SHOULD HAVE actually looked like. Definely wouldn't lose to trace T1 or liquid.
Based on what you're saying, shouldn’t the best teams be the ones who beat NRG?
Toph_ [#25]What was the last title T1 and Liquid were close to getting again? Didn't EG lose 13-3 to a team 100T walked over?
All finished above 100 shitcans lmfao and will continue to do so.
Notice how I mentioned 'Organization', 10/10 times their garbage management will drop someone in between stage 1
Also Mibr literally has 4 newcomers, them losing their first game is an non issue, if it was then they wouldn't have made a top 3 run.
DrudaL [#14]only got 15 rounds against liquid in BO5 💔
so if liquid stomps SEN today, and puts up a good fight against 1 of the 1st seeds of G2 or DRX tomorrow, that will not change your mind about whether TH is bad or if TL is very strong?
unknown_trash [#31]so if liquid stomps SEN today, and puts up a good fight against 1 of the 1st seeds of G2 or DRX tomorrow, that will not change your mind about whether TH is bad or if TL is very strong?
dont get me wrong, I love TL(especially nats) and I think they're a solid team, but I just love shitting on EU
orqn [#32]the recency bias on this site disgusts me
fr. TH is still the same 5 and coach who came 2nd twice last year at masters shanghai and champions seoul. but all because they missed bangkok, everyone now ranks them as worst 3rd seed in the world, when they would easily beat any other 3rd seed. i think their problem was they didnt adapt to the tejo meta fast enough to win, which is unlucky but you cant really do much about that. however, they are still a good team!
DrudaL [#33]dont get me wrong, I love TL(especially nats) and I think they're a solid team, but I just love shitting on EU
fair enough i guess
unknown_trash [#31]so if liquid stomps SEN today, and puts up a good fight against 1 of the 1st seeds of G2 or DRX tomorrow, that will not change your mind about whether TH is bad or if TL is very strong?
big if
phazerk [#28]Based on what you're saying, shouldn’t the best teams be the ones who beat NRG?
No better NRG is inconsistent.
BEHEMOTH [#30]All finished above 100 shitcans lmfao and will continue to do so.
Notice how I mentioned 'Organization', 10/10 times their garbage management will drop someone in between stage 1
Also Mibr literally has 4 newcomers, them losing their first game is an non issue, if it was then they wouldn't have made a top 3 run.
Couldn't care less where they finished 100T got little to no off season prac Mibr were no better at any point lol only difference was playing worse teams.
unknown_trash [#34]fr. TH is still the same 5 and coach who came 2nd twice last year at masters shanghai and champions seoul. but all because they missed bangkok, everyone now ranks them as worst 3rd seed in the world, when they would easily beat any other 3rd seed. i think their problem was they didnt adapt to the tejo meta fast enough to win, which is unlucky but you cant really do much about that. however, they are still a good team!
Nope, if they are ranked that low is because EMEA was horrible to watch at every level, every team looked kinda bad. Even VIT where doing weird move and won almost only because firepower (They almost loose against KC that was really shaky too, loosing against GX), the problem here is that a lot of EMEA team where rebuilding and not being good, and they should have rollstomp the kickoff, they didn't and get eliminated in a really humiliating way, while GEN was eliminated in a close BO against T1 that wasnt bad, MIBR shows intresting things, so yeah, they might not be the worst seed 3, but still... (Based on my ELObot they are the best team that didnt qual, but the bot doesnt care about if the win was close or not)
PS : i'm not saying EMEA will be puretrash this year, I think a lot of team have time to improve between Kickoff and Champions, Vitality especially even if they where shaky in Kickoff, will be amazing if they continue to improve during the year
Anguibok [#43]Nope, if they are ranked that low is because EMEA was horrible to watch at every level, every team looked kinda bad. Even VIT where doing weird move and won almost only because firepower (They almost loose against KC that was really shaky too, loosing against GX), the problem here is that a lot of EMEA team where rebuilding and not being good, and they should have rollstomp the kickoff, they didn't and get eliminated in a really humiliating way, while GEN was eliminated in a close BO against T1 that wasnt bad, MIBR shows intresting things, so yeah, they might not be the worst seed 3, but still... (Based on my ELObot they are the best team that didnt qual, but the bot doesnt care about if the win was close or not)
PS : i'm not saying EMEA will be puretrash this year, I think a lot of team have time to improve between Kickoff and Champions, Vitality especially even if they where shaky in Kickoff, will be amazing if they continue to improve during the year
It's the complete opposite. EMEA "looked horrible" - read: had any amount of two-sided games - because there were about 5 serious contenders, unlike other regions that have exactly 1 each. VIT, TL, KC and GX are all legitimately good teams that have a shot at internationals.
VIT is ahead right now because they look more obviously closer to G2 and EDG level. TL is close behind with DRX.
TH could comeback too since they very clearly were underprac'd after all the illness.