Whats with the G2 glaze?

G2 went against trash teams in trash form
They did nothing all off season and if anything got trounced by a slightly better C9
They still look the same as last year where they had clear issues with their game plans and dealing with teams that can shoot back

but most of all
WEVE SEEN LITERALLY NOTHING IMPRESSIVE FROM THEM, like they look clean yea but they looked that way last year too and received none of this wank???

Just to clarify I dont think theyre bad but the way people are reacting to them beign dominant clean and "perfect" is way too overblown considering who it was they were going against and the plain fact that they didnt remotely get challenged. Tier 2 teams can look like this going against GC teams, doesnt mean theyll win all of Tier 1, you cant look bad if the opponents are jumping off the map

they looked that way last year too and received none of this wank???

they didnt have jawg last year

0/10 ragebait

you dont understand valorant as a tac shooter

Because they looked very dominant against teams

arguably the best americas team last year have made the best and only possible upgrade to their roster

they have yet to drop a map & all of their series have been convincing

they look the most in form of any americas team thus far

they fixed their weakest link.

And i feel like its more the fashion they win imo.
What trent said in the interview, about them not even being pressed so far, thats exactly what its looked like.

Jawg actually just running around like he is in ranked doing funny shit. leaf shaking his head after getting 4 etc.

i mean all that people are saying is that they are clearly the best team in Americas, how is that "glazing"? Its just the truth.

babysasuke [#2]

they looked that way last year too and received none of this wank???

they didnt have jawg last year

Jawg has looked horrible this year compared to ANY of his other years

JustHunter [#9]

Jawg has looked horrible this year compared to ANY of his other years

bro the year just started man and hes levels above icy and leaf

babushka_boii95 [#3]

0/10 ragebait

its not rage bait, im not saying theyre bad but im just saying they dont look so special that warrants all this glaze

babushka_boii95 [#10]

bro the year just started man and hes levels above icy and leaf

AND LEAF???? ARE YOU MENTAL?? well... maybe theres an argument considering leafs chokes but still saying that so confident like that is mental

JustHunter [#11]

its not rage bait, im not saying theyre bad but im just saying they dont look so special that warrants all this glaze

theyre not special, theyre very effective. Imo id take a prx over a g2 but these guys have their fundamentals nailed down

JustHunter [#12]

AND LEAF???? ARE YOU MENTAL?? well... maybe theres an argument considering leafs chokes but still saying that so confident like that is mental

calm down I was referring to him at a duelist role

shrike- [#6]

arguably the best americas team last year have made the best and only possible upgrade to their roster

they have yet to drop a map & all of their series have been convincing

they look the most in form of any americas team thus far

"best americas team"
Made 3rd and bombed out of champs playoffs

Meanwhile SEN: Won Masters and made top 4 in champs

Like I said sure they won their games dominantly but they played against some of the worst in all of Americas, its not all that. G2 always destroy teams that are significantly below them, they only ever really crumble and struggle against teams that are relative to them

JustHunter [#15]

"best americas team"
Made 3rd and bombed out of champs playoffs

Meanwhile SEN: Won Masters and made top 4 in champs

Like I said sure they won their games dominantly but they played against some of the worst in all of Americas, its not all that. G2 always destroy teams that are significantly below them, they only ever really crumble and struggle against teams that are relative to them

4th

babushka_boii95 [#10]

bro the year just started man and hes levels above icy and leaf

It was such a braindead comment I was just gonna ignore it and move on with my life lol

but yes, he looked "horrible" in the 2 series they played with 0 maps lost 😵‍💫😵‍💫

VLR should start putting a captcha when doing replies, might filter some of this garbage out

babysasuke [#17]

It was such a braindead comment I was just gonna ignore it and move on with my life lol

but yes, he looked "horrible" in the 2 series they played with 0 maps lost 😵‍💫😵‍💫

VLR should start putting a captcha when doing replies, might filter some of this garbage out

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

im including their redbull games.

You're not beating the braindead allegations and I'm not reading any further

Please refrain from replying to me in the future, you're out of your league

babushka_boii95 [#13]

theyre not special, theyre very effective. Imo id take a prx over a g2 but these guys have their fundamentals nailed down

like ive said already, theyre ALWAYS efficient, they crumble though the moment they go against teams that actually know how to shoot back because their entire structure completely crumbles.
Even going against trash teams like C9 and Lev they needed a lot of heroics to win swign rounds and thats worrying considering how horrendous those 2 teams looked

Veri [#8]

i mean all that people are saying is that they are clearly the best team in Americas, how is that "glazing"? Its just the truth.

people are saying theyre the best IN THE WORLD

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

EG 2023. -Bcj +Demon1

alienista1 [#22]

EG 2023. -Bcj +Demon1

thats not 1 to 1 theyre completely different roles

babysasuke [#19]

im including their redbull games.

You're not beating the braindead allegations and I'm not reading any further

Please refrain from replying to me in the future, you're out of your league

bro really said "youre out of your league" 💀

offseason doesn’t mean as much as you think, your other concerns are ok but it’s not a stretch to say they’ve looked the best lol, sen still had shaky starts and also relied on zekken and johnqt’s heroics to bail them out of situations and as for g2 they’ve been in advantageous situations against lev for majority of the game and the only times they’ve lost were when they made small mistakes. c9 also didn’t even play that terribly vs g2, they were just hard anti stratted

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

-nzr +c0m

ionlyHave1Zuni [#26]

-nzr +c0m

I dont think that even ended in an upgrade tho, the team looked abysmal for a lot of the year, if anything keeping nzr wouldve served them better in the long run, also com is trash, nzr is way better

JustHunter [#24]

bro really said "youre out of your league" 💀

and he's completely correct

catNmouse [#25]

offseason doesn’t mean as much as you think, your other concerns are ok but it’s not a stretch to say they’ve looked the best lol, sen still had shaky starts and also relied on zekken and johnqt’s heroics to bail them out of situations and as for g2 they’ve been in advantageous situations against lev for majority of the game and the only times they’ve lost were when they made small mistakes. c9 also didn’t even play that terribly vs g2, they were just hard anti stratted

again im not saying theyre bad but this doomerism around sen v g2 is crazy as if G2 are set to 2-0 13-0 13-0 sen in this next match like... they AINT allat

c4rrotstix [#28]

and he's completely correct

hes correct because Jawg hasnt looked very special at all on this G2 team as everyone was fearing before he joined the team?

JustHunter [#29]

again im not saying theyre bad but this doomerism around sen v g2 is crazy as if G2 are set to 2-0 13-0 13-0 sen in this next match like... they AINT allat

oh yeah THAT i agree, both are great teams

they’ve played each other in scrims alot and both IGLs are familiar with each other for a long time. that game is 100% going to a third map

it’s fair to go off of their recent games but FUT proved that this means nothing

JustHunter [#27]

I dont think that even ended in an upgrade tho, the team looked abysmal for a lot of the year, if anything keeping nzr wouldve served them better in the long run, also com is trash, nzr is way better

We can blame g*ked for that. Once he left shit started picking up

ionlyHave1Zuni [#32]

We can blame g*ked for that. Once he left shit started picking up

yea but then my point stands does it not? The 1 for 1 isnt exactly responsible in providing any improvement in the team at all

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

net for leaf

JustHunter [#33]

yea but then my point stands does it not? The 1 for 1 isnt exactly responsible in providing any improvement in the team at all

The team had a much bigger ceiling with c0m. Nzr and kingg are both igls so that would mean nzr would be purely an iniciator . In which c0m clears by dozens , nzr value is due to him being a great igl

catNmouse [#34]

net for leaf

not a 1 for 1, he started duelist, it ended up being leaf moving over to senti but even then leaf doesnt play senti like neT used to either way

ionlyHave1Zuni [#35]

The team had a much bigger ceiling with c0m. Nzr and kingg are both igls so that would mean nzr would be purely an iniciator . In which c0m clears by dozens , nzr value is due to him being a great igl

I just dont agree tho, nzr was an amazing player by the end of 2023 and Lev looked like a really impressive prospect going into the season, c0m has always been mid asf, people overrate him cause everyone hypes him up from his clutches on EG.
Even within Lev c0m wasnt that great and was constantly holding them back early on. Hes improved now but nzr was definitely the better player back then, a lot of ppl are just NA pilled

JustHunter [#37]

I just dont agree tho, nzr was an amazing player by the end of 2023 and Lev looked like a really impressive prospect going into the season, c0m has always been mid asf, people overrate him cause everyone hypes him up from his clutches on EG.
Even within Lev c0m wasnt that great and was constantly holding them back early on. Hes improved now but nzr was definitely the better player back then, a lot of ppl are just NA pilled

Well it seems like you suffer from severe lack of ball knowledge, its all good tho not everyone can overcome this terrible disease

ionlyHave1Zuni [#38]

Well it seems like you suffer from severe lack of ball knowledge, its all good tho not everyone can overcome this terrible disease

c0m glazers, the bane of VCT

JustHunter [#39]

c0m glazers, the bane of VCT

I feel like there aren't that many c0m glazers, he was like #2 most flamed player in 2024

4so4so4so [#40]

I feel like there aren't that many c0m glazers, he was like #2 most flamed player in 2024

there were A TRILLION c0m glazers in that EG run. The worst clutches yet they somehow worked every single time caused his stocks to skyrocket.
He was the worst player on the original EG roster pre franchising and somehow now hes the one getting spots on teams like Lev. But yea he was flamed because people started realizing hwo trash he really was

JustHunter [#21]

people are saying theyre the best IN THE WORLD

theyre the best team that we have seen currently they look fundamently better than every other team, theyre min maxing every round is perfect, they are playing situations close to perfect thats why people are saying there best in the world or saying they are within that conversation. If you dont think they are one of the best in the world ur welcome to actually give reason and say who you think the best in world rather than listening to no rhyme or reason and shuting everyones opinion down bc it doesnt follow yours

C9 didnt even look that bad against them and g2 looked incredible. For example, g2 won 13 postplants vs c9. The teams may not have been sen or loud but they are still good teams

Ultime [#43]

C9 didnt even look that bad against them and g2 looked incredible. For example, g2 won 13 postplants vs c9. The teams may not have been sen or loud but they are still good teams

are you being serious?

JamesL [#42]

theyre the best team that we have seen currently they look fundamently better than every other team, theyre min maxing every round is perfect, they are playing situations close to perfect thats why people are saying there best in the world or saying they are within that conversation. If you dont think they are one of the best in the world ur welcome to actually give reason and say who you think the best in world rather than listening to no rhyme or reason and shuting everyones opinion down bc it doesnt follow yours

Theyve always looked fundamentally better than everyone, theyre always playing situations "perfectly" and they always look coordinated and put together, thats what most top tier teams look like when they go against teams of the level of C9 and Lev on that day.
If thats what they looked like against Loud Kru 100T or hell even MIBR Id be more readily agreeing to the best in the world statement but the reality is we CANT say anything right now because they havent faced a challenge yet. We dont know how theyre gonna react against a team that can match their calling protocols and fragging. What happens when they fall into another Champions Lev or FNC game?

Im not shutting down peoples opniions of them being a good or great team, im shutting down the irrational glaze that theyre receiving of being gods gift to valorant. Im a TG fan, I remember this happening multiple times before, it never ends well

JustHunter [#45]

Theyve always looked fundamentally better than everyone, theyre always playing situations "perfectly" and they always look coordinated and put together, thats what most top tier teams look like when they go against teams of the level of C9 and Lev on that day.
If thats what they looked like against Loud Kru 100T or hell even MIBR Id be more readily agreeing to the best in the world statement but the reality is we CANT say anything right now because they havent faced a challenge yet. We dont know how theyre gonna react against a team that can match their calling protocols and fragging. What happens when they fall into another Champions Lev or FNC game?

Im not shutting down peoples opniions of them being a good or great team, im shutting down the irrational glaze that theyre receiving of being gods gift to valorant. Im a TG fan, I remember this happening multiple times before, it never ends well

the glaze is a bit too much i agree and this is also coming from a tgrd fan, but this time i have alot more faith in them performing better than 2022 and 2024 because of how much experience they’ve gained through out the years. even they themselves know that expectations don’t mean shit because you have to actually work for it. same goes for every other team

catNmouse [#46]

the glaze is a bit too much i agree and this is also coming from a tgrd fan, but this time i have alot more faith in them performing better than 2022 and 2024 because of how much experience they’ve gained through out the years. even they themselves know that expectations don’t mean shit because you have to actually work for it. same goes for every other team

Im ready to see them win something but until I see the clear capability to do so im not gonna give them unwarranted hype, theres enough premature hype for valorant teams already

It’s called watching the games Ana analyzing their gameplay, looking at their take on the meta and how they look like the best at utilizing tejo so far and they have insane player qual which we know from last year and they had a firepower upgrade with jawg

backslider [#48]

It’s called watching the games Ana analyzing their gameplay, looking at their take on the meta and how they look like the best at utilizing tejo so far and they have insane player qual which we know from last year and they had a firepower upgrade with jawg

sen and drx mastered tejo better imo

backslider [#48]

It’s called watching the games Ana analyzing their gameplay, looking at their take on the meta and how they look like the best at utilizing tejo so far and they have insane player qual which we know from last year and they had a firepower upgrade with jawg

I have, just the same as i dont like the premature glaze, i wouldnt be bringing them down if i wasnt aware of what it was people saw in them. Frankly everything everyones been saying as to why theyre good has been the reason theyve always had high expectations. Everything people are saying will be different this year havent proven themselves to be different yet and frankly going against Lev and C9 cant prove those statements either.

If they can look just as dominant as they did against C9 and Lev in this coming SEN match (as long as sen doesnt shit the bed) then ill be aboard the hype train and hyping them up to start a dynasty

catNmouse [#49]

sen and drx mastered tejo better imo

I didnt even get into it in my comment but yea yorue completely right, even taking into account this current meta i dont see anything that special out of G2 that doesnt exist in other teams

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

mibr 25
-palla +aspas (although palla was great)

foythvlr [#52]

mibr 25
-palla +aspas (although palla was great)

that one mightve been the one truly goated 1 for 1 switch in the history of vct

they are good

JustHunter [#18]

im including their redbull games.
Either way tho 1 for 1 replacements have never worked out well in valorant almost ever. I cant think of a single 1 for 1 upgrade that ever turned out to be an "upgrade"

benkai- Something+ (2023)

JustHunter [#51]

I didnt even get into it in my comment but yea yorue completely right, even taking into account this current meta i dont see anything that special out of G2 that doesnt exist in other teams

they’ve had more games on tejo and both of those teams utilized him pretty well

Let it pass. They're about to get 2-0 by sen and people will wake up to the truth of this team. Same with NRG. Patience

JustHunter [#53]

that one mightve been the one truly goated 1 for 1 switch in the history of vct

palla himself was like "yeah cant really fight with that tbh"

catNmouse [#49]

sen and drx mastered tejo better imo

Freeing and johnqt are just better at tejo than Trent, g2 has the correct game plan around it

Rodu [#55]

benkai- Something+ (2023)

not a 1 for 1, completely different roles and something isnt even an igl

backslider [#59]

Freeing and johnqt are just better at tejo than Trent, g2 has the correct game plan around it

that makes no sense at all, a massive portion of tejo usage comes from the playbook not on the fly use. G2 just dont have a great idea yet as to how they wanna use him, G2 has never really innovated the quickest out of any team in the past and it doesnt seem any different rn.

Also trent is a really creative initiator, he used to be that guy to look at when you wanted to see creative usage of certain util or perfect individual usage, if anything Trent should be expected to be the best on an agent like Tejo if it was up to the players to do whatever they wanted to with the utility

Toph_ [#57]

Let it pass. They're about to get 2-0 by sen and people will wake up to the truth of this team. Same with NRG. Patience

yea i mean if it wasnt multiple working weeks per SEN or G2 game I wouldnt even be talking about this rn but weve been living with this glaze for AAAGEESS now and frankly if they beat SEN AT ALL its gonna be a lot longer

JustHunter [#53]

that one mightve been the one truly goated 1 for 1 switch in the history of vct

taco for aspas as well 🗿

JustHunter [#61]

that makes no sense at all, a massive portion of tejo usage comes from the playbook not on the fly use. G2 just dont have a great idea yet as to how they wanna use him, G2 has never really innovated the quickest out of any team in the past and it doesnt seem any different rn.

Also trent is a really creative initiator, he used to be that guy to look at when you wanted to see creative usage of certain util or perfect individual usage, if anything Trent should be expected to be the best on an agent like Tejo if it was up to the players to do whatever they wanted to with the utility

You literally just proved my point LMFAOOO

That’s literally my point, G2 have better by the playbook strats and game plans for tejo and know how they want to play the comp with the breach combos, etc.

I was saying freeing and johnqt are individually better tejo players, which means that their on the fly until usage is better

Dk how you got the opposite from what I said

idk, they all look at their peak performance, have good execs, reclears, defaults, contacts, team comps, team synergy, energy, they haven't lost a map, they adapt to different playstyles and teams, they can rely on their teammates, and not to mention, all the players are insanely good at the game

yeah idk maybe they are overrated

0/8

shrike- [#6]

arguably the best americas team last year have made the best and only possible upgrade to their roster

they have yet to drop a map & all of their series have been convincing

they look the most in form of any americas team thus far

There is no argument that G2 was the best americas team last year. Sen and Lev were undeniably better and achieved more

x_knowitall39_x [#67]

There is no argument that G2 was the best americas team last year. Sen and Lev were undeniably better and achieved more

i wouldn’t say “undeniable”
i think sentinels were the overall best amer team but g2 did have two domestic final appearances and a top 3 finish at lan, that still puts them in the conversation

shrike- [#68]

i wouldn’t say “undeniable”
i think sentinels were the overall best amer team but g2 did have two domestic final appearances and a top 3 finish at lan, that still puts them in the conversation

So 1 top 3 lan finish last year puts then above winning and a 4th place finish

There is no conversation to be made above g2 being better than sen last year. Take the hate glasses off

JustHunter [#9]

Jawg has looked horrible this year compared to ANY of his other years

Just because his stats are worse than his previous years, that does not he is doing his job as duelist any worse.

NA teams are transitioning their star players off of duelist onto controller or sentinel because duelists tend to need to entry first into bomb sites and end up dying early into the round. Hence, Jaw isnt meant to be the star player (player with the best stats) he is meant to create space for his team, whereas you have Trent and Leaf who are in star roles and when the team is winning, those two players will usually have the best stats.

Anyways, Jaw was a huge upgrade to an already solid core, and they are one bo3 away from making it to the first international lan of the year so why complain bro

KRATOSmimir21 [#69]

So 1 top 3 lan finish last year puts then above winning and a 4th place finish

There is no conversation to be made above g2 being better than sen last year. Take the hate glasses off

What about this says i hate sen brother

i still think sen was the best team in americas but to put g2 out of that conversation given how they looked last year is braindead

backslider [#64]

You literally just proved my point LMFAOOO

That’s literally my point, G2 have better by the playbook strats and game plans for tejo and know how they want to play the comp with the breach combos, etc.

I was saying freeing and johnqt are individually better tejo players, which means that their on the fly until usage is better

Dk how you got the opposite from what I said

dude im genuinely getting tired of ppl misreading my shit, go read it again, slower this time

Two_Percent [#65]

idk, they all look at their peak performance, have good execs, reclears, defaults, contacts, team comps, team synergy, energy, they haven't lost a map, they adapt to different playstyles and teams, they can rely on their teammates, and not to mention, all the players are insanely good at the game

yeah idk maybe they are overrated

• we havent seen them in peak performance at all, leaf popping off and trent finally aiming after 2 years of mid isnt "peak performance"
• they do have great execs reclears defaults and contacts but like ive mentioned a billion times already, they did last year (even when they had net) as well and clearly that isnt enough when youre in Tier 1 in the hardest league
• yea sure they have good team comps but so do literally every other major team across the globe, idk why this is a talking point. All the successful teams are currently running the meta aside from 1 or 2 (maybe more in china)
• they havent lost a map to 2 of the bottom half of the league, what an achievement
• we havent seen them adapt to any playstyle or team, both C9 and Lev are heavily reliant on taking duels together and they couldnt even do that right against G2
• idk why relying on teammates is anything special, like any team that makes internationals or are good theyll have a very reliable roster of 5. Most teams that are around top 3 or 4 in their respective leagues have "insanely good" players

There were others that made far better arguments as to why G2 is potentially the best in the world than you have here. Like i said, they MIGHT be but 2 games against Lev and C9 tell us not even a tenth of the full story

idk12367 [#70]

Just because his stats are worse than his previous years, that does not he is doing his job as duelist any worse.

NA teams are transitioning their star players off of duelist onto controller or sentinel because duelists tend to need to entry first into bomb sites and end up dying early into the round. Hence, Jaw isnt meant to be the star player (player with the best stats) he is meant to create space for his team, whereas you have Trent and Leaf who are in star roles and when the team is winning, those two players will usually have the best stats.

Anyways, Jaw was a huge upgrade to an already solid core, and they are one bo3 away from making it to the first international lan of the year so why complain bro

Implying that jawgemo has become a role player is exactly the reason people were skeptical of if G2 would be able to bring out the most in Jawg. This man is one of the most aggressive and confident duelists in VCT right now, if hes become a role player like Icy was then theres barely any actual upgrade being had here.

This is just sad man, like I personally dont think weve seen enough to say that Jawg has become a role player but if he really has then my argument is completely valid in saying this team isnt much better than last years team, if on top of being a role player he also isnt fragging out as much as other duelists on the exact same role then its a waste of arguably the best entrys talents.

Upgrading a role player to another role player that MIGHT shoot a bit better isnt much of an upgrade if at all, what everyone was hoping for was that G2 would loosen up their super rigid structure in order to get the most out of Jawgemos unbelievable fragging power when hes let loose.
Theres a reason Leaf wasnt working on the duelist role when they first picked him up and then moved him to the senti role

JustHunter [#9]

Jawg has looked horrible this year compared to ANY of his other years

why getting downvoted for this its fax

JustHunter [#72]

dude im genuinely getting tired of ppl misreading my shit, go read it again, slower this time

How the fuck did I possibly misread, you said verbatim “a large portion of tejo usage comes from the playbook not from on the fly use” which is exactly I said g2 is better at than DRX and SEN. I said the exact same thing that they have a good game plan around it (e.g. straight out the playbook)

You’re saying Trent should theoretically be better individually but that’s in theory, he hasn’t been so far and I was countering the original post about DRX and SEN

honestly, as a g2 fan, I dont really like the glaze people get for them, yes they performance is like at their best but seeing all of valorant these years, there hasn't been a team that has been consistent enough after a specific run, even for Tokyo FNC. They just got to prove tho. Even in 2022, tgrd bumped out of the internationals despite their run in americas.

backslider [#76]

How the fuck did I possibly misread, you said verbatim “a large portion of tejo usage comes from the playbook not from on the fly use” which is exactly I said g2 is better at than DRX and SEN. I said the exact same thing that they have a good game plan around it (e.g. straight out the playbook)

You’re saying Trent should theoretically be better individually but that’s in theory, he hasn’t been so far and I was countering the original post about DRX and SEN

the entire point of the conversation was that we were saying sen and drx had better use of tejo utility. How did you flip my entire message like that my guy.
Not one person thats ever credited SEN and DRX for their tejo use has ever credited the individual player but their entire team, the combos, and the plans that they had going into the match.
Like I said it isnt a free style agent, none of freeing trent or john qt freestyle the agent so saying theyre better tejos is either based on no evidence or based on their gameplan being better than G2s. In YOUR context it would only make sense that if anything Trent was the one that was just individually good on the agent and that SEN and DRX just have better Tejos because they have better gameplans around the agent

bros gold and doesn't understand the game

babushka_boii95 [#10]

bro the year just started man and hes levels above icy and leaf

I'd have to disagree with leaf, for not being on a duelist role he is consistently carrying their main duelist all the time. And even when he was their main duelist before Icy he was cracked. Don't get me wrong Jawgemo is really good but for the time being I would have to say leaf is overall better

thenutoriousPRO [#75]

why getting downvoted for this its fax

because people are biased towards the G2 glaze, everyone loves watching pretty valorant. Also people cant handle the truth. I love jawg and ik hes one of the best players in teh world but to say hes been doing well on this G2 roster or saying that G2 are guaranteed to be better after the jawg pickup is something no one currently can know. Saya was the only truly dominant duelist on this core and thats because hes actually just an insane player when he gets put into strict conditions

JustHunter [#78]

the entire point of the conversation was that we were saying sen and drx had better use of tejo utility. How did you flip my entire message like that my guy.
Not one person thats ever credited SEN and DRX for their tejo use has ever credited the individual player but their entire team, the combos, and the plans that they had going into the match.
Like I said it isnt a free style agent, none of freeing trent or john qt freestyle the agent so saying theyre better tejos is either based on no evidence or based on their gameplan being better than G2s. In YOUR context it would only make sense that if anything Trent was the one that was just individually good on the agent and that SEN and DRX just have better Tejos because they have better gameplans around the agent

Bro…………..

MY POINT was that SEN and DRX have the better individual players and not the better from the playbook util than G2.

I am DISAGREEING with you in saying SEN and DRX have better plans around the util and I’m saying they just have the better individual tejos, which you cannot deny is true (the stats are literally there to prove it for both teams)

backslider [#82]

Bro…………..

MY POINT was that SEN and DRX have the better individual players and not the better from the playbook util than G2.

I am DISAGREEING with you in saying SEN and DRX have better plans around the util and I’m saying they just have the better individual tejos, which you cannot deny is true (the stats are literally there to prove it for both teams)

yea but youre the one that completely misunderstood what i said brother 😂
How are you gonna skew the conversation to make it seem like your misunderstanding was me agreeing with your point at all??
Yea they do have better individual tejos but that isnt mutually exclusive with the teams having better gameplans around tejo than G2. You can be both my guy...

JustHunter [#83]

yea but youre the one that completely misunderstood what i said brother 😂
How are you gonna skew the conversation to make it seem like your misunderstanding was me agreeing with your point at all??
Yea they do have better individual tejos but that isnt mutually exclusive with the teams having better gameplans around tejo than G2. You can be both my guy...

Bro… I didn’t misread your point. I disagree with your point. I’m saying something completely different I’m not repeating what you’re saying lmaoo

I said you proved my point because you said whoever has the better by the playbook strats is the better one, and I said that’s g2 in my previous post, so that just confirms my thought about g2 being the best with tejo. You’re disagreeing because you think SEN and DRX have better tejo plans and util but I disagree