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#1
foythvlr

Furia reportedly will play with NA players on the first match of kickoff. The main roster is having visa problems and likely won't get on LA on time to play the match, so they're working with subs for at least the first match. The names haven't been announced but will probably be for the next few days. Any predictions?

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cloudberry
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PA1NT ShahZaM +3

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Galactc
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Wait the entire roster can't make it???

#5
awaky
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yeah

#6
Galactc
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Riot seriously won't delay either there's no way the match counts if nobody can make it

#8
gamergirl
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theyre playing with OG sen theyre literally better rn lol

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Galactc
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Yeah but still

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foythvlr
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From what i understood, yeah. According to the manager of the team, the immigration agent was very ignorant regarding e-sports and didn't even know what Valorant was. Lol

They already have their visas but still have some legal procedures to do and probably aren't going to make it

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gamergirl
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shahzam dapr sick sinatraa zombs is what theyve been scrimming with

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Mkael_J_Kabo0s3
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is this confirmed?

#27
foythvlr
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a close source to me said is yay - marved - victor - crashies - fns

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Shadow_Monarch
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Thanks for the update. Need to modify the pickems now.

#19
number1_Demon1_fan
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any sane people would not have to change their pick'ems

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foythvlr
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me too. feel like furia is likely losing to 2G now even if they do make it with their main roster

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Shadow_Monarch
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Who else do they have besides Shahzam? If they dont have signed players for FUR dont they have to forfeit the match?

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foythvlr
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they have a sub roster lined up, they're just waiting to confirm if the main one will make it or not to announce it

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Mkael_J_Kabo0s3
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do we know who the subs are gonna be?

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foythvlr
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they're waiting to be sure if the players can make it (likely can't but not confirmed) to announce it but they already reportedly have a lineup

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shzuo
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Fuck that shit fuck riot

#13
Prancer
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What'd riot do?

#22
shzuo
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Choose USA when brazilians and other LATAM people always have rough time to get their visas.

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Mkael_J_Kabo0s3
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pretty sure it would be the same the otherway if they chose to do it somewhere in LATAM. Also LA is where Riot Games is based in so it makes sense

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Navegazz
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I get that but it's Americas region, not the USA region - it would actually be more fair if instead of LATAM and BR teams always getting fucked that sometimes teams the US also got fucked too for a change - I get it, RIOT can't rotate locations to LATAM but the players already have to leave their families and sacrifice way more than any team from US - this takes up scrimming time, jet lag is envolved and the VISA process is extremely annoying.

At the very very least RIOT should be a little bit more flexible and help the teams that they clearly put at disadvantage.

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1243
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good solution, brazil and latam get fucked so we should fuck us too

#48
wigglx
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this problem wouldn't happen in other regions tho

#49
Navegazz
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"I get it, RIOT can't rotate locations to LATAM" if you can't interpret basic text just say that

#53
1243
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no you literally said the US should get fucked for a change
that's a lovely solution, please never take decisions for a big company

#56
Navegazz
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I'm saying that it would only be fair - if the location of the VCT changes - since it is the Americas region - so that the US teams are on leveled playing failed with the teams from other regions - so instead of SA getting fucked consistently everyone would get fucked the exact same - do you understand now darling?

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"only fair" this country experienced adversity let's make it fair by inflicting the same pain on others. yeah you might be braindead.

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smthlikeyou11
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no cuz why is it only fair that the Brazilians r the ones that suffers year after year?
ur mentality is just "oh they get fucked so we should also get fucked"
"inflicting the pain on others"
cuz explain to me why are americans entitled to the prime best locations for them for years straight when the other half of vct americas has to travel halfway around the globe and apply for work visas year after year after year and travel away from their families and friends?
why is it always the bottom half of the americas that has to compensate for the teams in the US?

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1243
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have you ever thought about no one suffering? great that ends our debate

#84
smthlikeyou11
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propose me a actual solution that no one suffers instead of js saying oh the best solution is no one suffers
well no shit
but thats not possible
talk to me, i would love to hear

#85
1243
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is that my job? i don't care about what you ask of me

#23
alienista1
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Can't the schedules be made more flexible? If things stay like this, every year SA teams will face visa issues, and that will directly impact their results.

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1243
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why would they change schedule for one team's incompetence when all the others made it?

#32
alienista1
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It is not an isolated incident. Visa issues happen every year, in all regions. There must be a way to solve this.

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1243
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this, i agree. although you have to understand the costs of infrastructure needed to switch up a city.

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Navegazz
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Yes, that's why he was arguing for more flexibility in the first - it's called the Americas region if you're gonna put anyone from outside the US in a tough spot at least be more flexible and help them out

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1243
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nothing, they just need someone to blame.
LOUD, MIBR AND 2G all made it, this is not riots fault at all.

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wigglx
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mibr got their visa's this weekend, they almost face the same problem

#29
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they got it, didn't they? they did something right and furia should learn from them

#33
shzuo
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You don't speak portuguese. All teams used the same agents/lawyers to get the visa in Brazil but the idiotic agent that went with Furia didn't know shit about esports and delayed them

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1243
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seems like a problem on their end to me, could be wrong idk

#43
sklein
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go find god, i don't think anything else will save you

#45
1243
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did I say anything wrong, they chose the wrong agent who was incompetent? how is this riots fault
god doesn't exist btw.

#54
Navegazz
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brother either you're rage baiting or you're actually very very stupid

maybe both tho you never know

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foythvlr
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according to furia they made the application late november and went through the same legal procedures, the immigration agent that seemed very unprepared and didn't know what vct, valorant, or furia itself were, even though they proved to already been there two years in a row

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shzuo
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KRU have problems with Adverso;
Koy wasn't with his team on the first matches for Furia last year;
Carlão wasn't with his team on the first matches for Furia 2023;
MIBR had 2 players that couldn't play for split 2 for 2 matches last year;

#31
foythvlr
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i think we do need to have a discussion about making valorant an international league way too early when the game isn't established yet. every year of franchising we had problems with org estructure and immigration. i feel like franchising isn't a bad idea by itself but it was made way too early to be fair between regions

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H3ENnZ
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Lowkey im excited EVEN THOUGH this is terrible for the players

#15
xineFso
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infinite money glitch

#17
xineFso
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just let them play online or postpone it atp not a whole fucking subs roster

#18
Two_Percent
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godbless vct

#103
tserc
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god bless the fastest growing tactical FPS esport itw

#20
shadowvlr
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for anyone who is reading this thread,

no, there's no idea rn as to who will play for furia. like op said they have a roster, but they aren't going to reveal it prob until wednesday-ish. i assume they'll get whoever but there are some br or latam players who they could get that probably have visas bc they previously were in la

#38
bees
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Bruh this is shit like they're just fully out of a third of the season now?

#39
foythvlr
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they'il likely be there for match 2
problem is likely they will lose match 1 and start at lower bracket

#41
bees
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Oh, well that's better then. Imagine the run if they start in lower bracket and go all the way

#94
JimmytheMick334
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I know who’s playing and they will win the match. They have nothing to lose!

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foythvlr
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i believe in you, random vlr user

#40
Cabo_
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I bet 2G still loses against T2 americas talent

#42
foythvlr
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they might but i don't think so

#51
alienista1
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They beat the best tier 2 team in NA, I doubt they'll lose to this one.

#52
Cabo_
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they only beat them because they had tons of vods on m80 and they couldn't adapt to their playstyle ngl

#92
Liwus
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Its not like M80 didnt know who they were playing lol

#50
Tosspoa
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North America VCT, really sad we can't have our tournament without all this BS.

#57
31Raven
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they sign yfp trust

#67
x_knowitall39_x
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classic fuckria

an entire roster having visa problems? what is but a management fuck up

#71
tatubolinha
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theyre trying it since october 9th its not orgs fault

#76
loapoarg
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nah 3 months and still no visa is insane

#69
cioccolat
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its easier to get a canadian visa than an usa one, riot needs to change the league placement cuz this shit is unbelievable

#74
valorantfan1
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I'm from the future. YFP will play for furia

#95
JimmytheMick334
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I believe you!!! They will also WIN!

#75
dort
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Furia reportedly will play with NA players

i've seen enough, FURIA is minimum top 5 americas

#78
tatubolinha
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for everyone saying its ORGs fault, surely you never had to pass through all VISA process to fly from South America. Even KRU manager said they sent 120 emails about them VISA and adverso will not make it to KRU first match.
The process is completely random without clear protocols between consulate agents

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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That doesn't explain how mibr 2g and loud managed to arrive in US tho while not 1 2 but 5 of FURIA hasn't arrived in US yet. I'm sorry if kru had to sent 120 messages about visa, but it seems that furia only sent 10...

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Liwus
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"The process is completely random" "That doesnt explain"

#98
IonlywatchvcjXD
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Furia had to be incredibly unlucky if 5 of them aren't able to get into US.

#81
TM06Nick
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Wait thats actually insane

#99
BLuko
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LATAM seems like a great place to host Americas. Think it will give the region more of an identity regarding promotional material and we did have a solid ascensions finals at Monterrey. Relatively safe city for foreigners and is a great compromise for location. Issue is they need to announce a move like this really early to make sure these teams find housing and the legal paperwork for this.

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foythvlr
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i think it will be rough everywhere. too different cultures and timezones for all the players to be satisfied. USA is probably the better place because its very diverse, but then we have visa issues. i think the main problem is having an international league when your main product isn't very widely spread yet. would probably be safer to separate into 2 conference leagues like LoL esports rn

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BLuko
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Thats true. I think its cool Americas happens in the Riot arena (similar to LCS). It's just sucks to see LATAM and Brazil not getting some of the glory yk

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