TALON vs. Nongshim RedForce | Champions Tour 2025: Pacific Kickoff | Main Event | Valorant match

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
TLN	2	2 (2)	2 (0)	6 (3)	12 (4)
NS	0	3 (0)	2 (1)	2 (1)	15 (11)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
TLN	2	3 (2)	2 (1)	4 (3)	14 (7)
NS	0	3 (0)	0 (0)	8 (2)	12 (8)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
TLN	2	2 (2)	1 (1)	4 (3)	11 (7)
NS	0	4 (0)	1 (0)	6 (3)	7 (2)

	Pistol Won	Eco (won)	$ (won)	$$ (won)	$$$ (won)
TLN	6	7 (6)	5 (2)	14 (9)	37 (18)
NS	0	10 (0)	3 (1)	16 (6)	34 (21)

#1

Imsexylexy

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Nongshim RedForce 2-1 Talon
2 Overtimes
Primmie aces

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iGoByAFewNames

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will i win 1 million dollars?

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Fqmane

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if you bet 500k on NSR then yeah

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Naetivatx

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Congrats, bro 🥰

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Jerbungo

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DFM 2-1 TS

DFM continues to shock the world by making it to the top 4.

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NS 2-0 TLN

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PP12123213123

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TLN 2-1 NS

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yehfela

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NS 2-0 TBD

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hibunbun

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NS 2-0 TLN

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hibunbun

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wait TLN isn't here ?

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Thank god Primmie my GOAT

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yehfela

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NS 26-5 tln

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rrq/ns 2-1 geng

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guy_69

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why tf is geng here another pacific moment ?

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Rikkumi

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this is talon spot, not geng

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Prakerja

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💀💀💀 it's gonna happen again doesn't it?

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Brunoo

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Rrq v gen g rematch 😈

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nt

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TMosura

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Fellas, no bracket flip apparently. This remains Talon's match.

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Prakerja

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Ahh sadge

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irishsamingg

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bye bye t0lon

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Luffyo7

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Bro u are jinx plss remove nrg flair

#17

31Raven

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pr0mm00 loses her
ns 2-0 t0l0n

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31Raven

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i didnt know ball apparently

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Solsticez

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Bye talon

#19

BlahoJJJ

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Pls nongshims destroy talon into pieces🙏🙏

#20

jonny05

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NSR 2-1 TLN

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nonchalantasian

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2-1 NS

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GuGengKwaMueng

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Talon 2-1 NS

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Lyze

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Save Us Talon

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Orik

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SEA last hope huh? which is hardly to rely on ones 😔

#25

REDDOG

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sea vs VCT korean

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Amexdxyz

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NS 2-0 TLN

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wanjeab

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SEA last hope 😂

#28

monopoly90

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o7 to talon, for a mid team I admit they did okay for staying in the tourney this long

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Al-Mawsil

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yeah yeah

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makesung

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TLN 2-1
Trust in Fr0st

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bobwoblob

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No trust in pr0m00

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Pakatron

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boom or doom for talon

#31

meanmean

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NS 2-0 TLN
no SEA team in bkk

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Dalbit

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Just realized NS has been against all SEA teams in lower bracket.
It's NS vs SEA and they like those odds.

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Aayan

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I think NS wins this but I really want to see a home team at Bangkok

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Average_VCT_fan

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ns 2-0

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bearmans

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if you guys somehow fumble this talon...

#38

Burgundy

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Strongest SEA team vs weakest Korean team lmao

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TLN likely lose. Hate to say it but can't deny.

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irishsamingg

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pr0000000m00000000 most overrated player in valorant history alongside j00000000ngggggggg and s000mth0000nggggggg

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fr0ster0p

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hmm

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9NEPAL

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TLN STILL WIN BUT SO CLOSE

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YGLightning

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TLN 2-0 NON

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cheesus

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NS 2-0 they have more consistent aim

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1One1

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Talon is weaker than RRQ, should be easier for NS

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Coolkas

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Memekla harusnya RRQ disini kalo ga nge throw ke b mulu di overtime map 2. Udah tau dapid lg sakit idungnya sampe ngeluarin darah

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swEEsh2M

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Frost is not a good coach

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Jajajajajajjah

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ns 2-0 talon
frost and gov need to pack their bag

#49

nhizao

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sea last hope will win it all for you dont worry

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eMby

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EASY 2-0 FOR NS

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TLN 2-1 close match

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pluemranger

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Talon 2-1

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meanmean

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NS 2-0 ez ngl

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I don't think so this match would be that easy to be honest. Depends on the mental health of NS. They must be tired of yesterday's match but yeah hope they got enough rest and prep

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SEA last hope

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NSWIN

Margaret Persia Ivy drop 30 each map

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Coolkas

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NS 2-1
PRIMMIE +20
GOVERNOR -20

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Eev

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my goats nongshim 2-0

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nice b0n

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Feardarkness

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Governor so fucking dumb

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yehfela

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Goodbye talnoob

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vexdia

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ok

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korean diff

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zdw

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TALUL auto lose map1

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SEA OVER 😔

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2-0 nongshim.

SEA is just that Bad. Might as well let apac fill by Japan & ke teams only.

#68

Himmelgoat

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Ez reverse sweep for TLN

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Stormyv8

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How shit must rrq bind be lol NS is struggling rn

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LLoopinear

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g0v pls Fuck is xxxx

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1ucid

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tln need a good duelist

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gayboi

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Gov pls bro how do u miss that

#73

Wts_mesole

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Change governor you guy will beat everyone please
I CANT MY EYES HURT

#74

RatLoverOK69

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why is gov trolling on purpose?????

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cheQm8__

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on purpose? i feel like it's his usual playstyle

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donkie

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-dambi +sayaplayer

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avg NA brain

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Melloaw

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Does saya speak korean or nah

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talon pistol 4-0
Edit 6-0 lmao

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talon god of choke

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fake comeback. lul

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Orik

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crws' life game

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Wts_mesole

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Man everyone is good except governor not gonna lie his skill make this team tier lower

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Vulneb

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OK. THIS GOVERNER GUY IS PURE TRASH MAN.

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Fr

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Just kick Crws , Tal0n wll win

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Wts_mesole

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U watching the same game as me?
GOVERNOR need to GET OUT🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥

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Jajajajajajjah

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มึงดูเกมเดียวกับกูป่าววะเหมียว

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retreaters

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you really want to kick talon's igt? (in game translator)

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Rigrig

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nah TLN can't kick him because he's do everythings in talon

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gayboi

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GOVORNOR THIS IS YOUR MAP TO PROVE US WRONG I CANT KEEP DEFENDING YOU ANY LONGER LOCK THE FUCK IN

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donkie

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yea he prove it

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gayboi

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True

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cheQm8__

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-15 after two maps just shows how bad your performance is and bringing your team down. They can't make it to Bangkok with governor on team since he is the duelist.

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crws idiot nice throw at 6 round

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Anzaldinho

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why pick neon on split brah

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1ucid

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jitboy and primmie really wanna make bangkok.

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cheQm8__

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Bangkok is little bit a stretch atm imo

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hinahinaa

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dambi really need to learn how to play on other agents

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primmie goat

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donkie

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gov is the best korean duelist rn???????????????????????????????

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hinahinaa

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hyunmin and buzz stil exists bro

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koromast

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omfg what did i just read

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Wtf is this donkey

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if talon quals for bangkok Im gonna crash out

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glad they're still smiling at a 4-11 <3

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they are very positive

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Drakath

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D4MBI or DUMBI WHAT WILL DAMBI DO NEXT

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THANK YOU TALON ESPORTS FOR BODIED THAT NEON MERCHANT. PLEASE EAT YOUR NONGSHIM RAMYUN IN TEARS AND LEARN OTHER AGENT D000MBI!!!!

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EZ TALON EZ TALON EZ TALON TY TALON!

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yehfela

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My Ns...

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Das2teEnde

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Gg nt my goat ivy (questions do yall think ns>guard as ascention Team or no?)

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i love NS, but nah guard/current g2 is insane

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Talon as SEA last hope is insane

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Kowloon1st

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seandainya rrq ban lotus dan pick split.... emg goblog ewok

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Primmie diff

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Primmie +27

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Primmie got lucky again, but he’ll be exposed in the next game

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nah fake thai ahh comment

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samcapybaraaaa

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Real

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jealous khmer spot here

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hibunbun

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ลัคกี้พ่อมึงอะ

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"primmie overrated" 😹

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+27 vs tier 2 team

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Wts_mesole

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Hope to see nrg in bangkok soon!

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Razib_Khan

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nrg played against 100t & kru & all of them made internationals where as talon played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team who never made any international so next game will decide if talon is actually good or not

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Wts_mesole

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If you dont know talon make international too
I mean bro they almost beat t1

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2NaCl

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Ig primmie can play anything then

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Nice Talon

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Bhrubby

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Yo what in the primmie

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D3veloper

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NT NS

You guys have showed us what u guys had

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primmie best player in the world rn?

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he's always good but best in the world he must approve more

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Sonatine

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Hard to say who is "the best". By statistics when you take the last 4 years of VCT it's Fnatic Leo (numbers of disconnected duels, impact, KAST% / survivability and winning duels in low chance situations).

When you take Duelists and these kind of entrying players who are also anchoring etc., I'd say Derke, aspas, primmie, MiniBoo, zekken, something, Jemkin, KangKang, xeus and kaajak are the best at the moment. Like of all the players in VCT. Hard to tell who's the best - by mechanics probably Derke, aspas, primmie and xeus. That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.

Fact is also primmie would play even better stats at a better team. So I'd say he is def. one of the top 3 Duelist style players when it comes to pure talent. Interesting though, that he did almost no entry kills in this match. It were much more anchor kills.

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the issue is talon didnt play against any good team only played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team so next match will decide if they are actually good & primme is top 3 duelist !!

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monopoly90

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true but they did put up numbers against T1 tho, so for a mid team they are not too shabby i guess

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"miniboo, something, jemkin, xeus, kaajak, primmie"
what are you saying
they are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO being the best
3 of them are fucking rookies
y'all are clueless
also drop the fnatic bias
"primmie one of the top 3 duelists when it comes to talent" LMAOAKA
leo hasn't played in a year move on

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Sonatine

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I said overall by their talent they def. belong to the best and showed it already.

I also said this: That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.

When we talk about primmie we can talk about MiniBoo easily - and also about the others, since primmie didn't play majors yet. But people can acknowledge TALENT and mechanical abilities, skill to roam, to anchor... you can see that at players without seeing them on majors, even though they need to prove it of course that they can show it under pressure on big stages.

So I guess we agree there. Many talents need to show it on a long term.

I'm not FNC biased. I'm just into statistics because numbers don't lie.

Most deadly players in 2024 by duels (Leo by far on #1):
https://i.ibb.co/yBN74mGW/Unbenannt.png

Best players 2024 (Leo played almost 900 rounds; by far the best KAST% and best disconnected duel wins as always):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=61&event_id=all&region=all&min_rounds=500&min_rating=1550&agent=all&map_id=all&timespan=all

Best players OF ALL TIME in VCT (min. OPP raiting of 2000 and min. 750 rounds against top rated players / Leo is the #1):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all&region=all&min_rounds=750&min_rating=2000&agent=all&map_id=all&timespan=all

Leo also was rated 1x official major MVP by Riot and 2x unofficially by one of the big websites (VLR, SPIKE.GG etc.)
Leo is #1 by VLR and THESPIKE.GG rating for 2023, #2 for 2022 and #2 for 2021 (no other player has such a crazy top 3 stats)

So... it's just numbers. No bias there.

And primmies stats also don't lie. He is a menace. I'm 99% sure players like MiniBoo, primmie and xeus will show great performances on big stages.

#138

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Primmie glaze is justified he deadass has carried his team to top 4 (Jitboys doing work too guy is hella underrated)

#141

videte

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guys i think ban and governor is the weakest link

#144

gordonramsay

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primmie is too good. NS decent showing and 5 weeks left to adapt to non neon now.

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yuriito

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Sad for NS 😭

#149

love_trial

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i will never stop glazing you primmie i’m pouring honey on you goat