Sunday, February 2nd
3:00 AM EST
Patch 10.01
NS ban Abyss; TLN ban Pearl; NS pick Lotus; TLN pick Bind; NS ban Haven; TLN ban Fracture; Split remains
Betting
$100 on TALON returned $200 at 2.00 pre-match odds
$100 on TALON returned $205 at 2.05 pre-match odds
Maps/Stats
All Maps
1 Lotus
2 Bind
3 Split
All Kills
First Kills
Op Kills
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
11
10
+1
7
11
-4
6
12
-6
7
4
+3
5
10
-5
Crws
TLN
10
7
+3
11
6
+5
8
8
+0
7
14
-7
5
7
-2
primmie
TLN
11
9
+2
11
9
+2
11
5
+6
18
8
+10
13
5
+8
JitBoyS
TLN
15
8
+7
9
9
+0
12
5
+7
7
5
+2
10
7
+3
ban
TLN
4
9
-5
5
6
-1
9
7
+2
8
10
-2
7
13
-6
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
4
3
+1
2
4
-2
2
5
-3
2
0
+2
0
1
-1
Crws
TLN
1
1
+0
1
0
+1
1
2
-1
2
2
+0
1
1
+0
primmie
TLN
0
4
-4
1
1
+0
1
0
+1
JitBoyS
TLN
3
1
+2
2
1
+1
2
0
+2
ban
TLN
1
2
-1
1
0
+1
2
3
-1
0
2
-2
0
1
-1
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
Crws
TLN
primmie
TLN
JitBoyS
TLN
ban
TLN
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
Crws
TLN
9
1
1
42
4
1
Governor
TLN
7
1
1
44
3
2
ban
TLN
5
2
1
35
10
0
JitBoyS
TLN
10
4
1
1
66
3
3
primmie
TLN
16
2
2
2
80
2
3
Persia
NS
7
3
1
1
1
53
8
0
Dambi
NS
4
2
2
1
55
1
0
Francis
NS
8
3
1
55
13
1
Ivy
NS
10
1
2
1
50
3
2
margaret
NS
6
1
48
0
0
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
3
5
-2
2
5
-3
3
2
+1
3
1
+2
1
4
-3
Crws
TLN
2
4
-2
3
1
+2
2
2
+0
2
7
-5
0
3
-3
primmie
TLN
2
3
-1
4
4
+0
7
3
+4
4
3
+1
6
2
+4
JitBoyS
TLN
9
5
+4
3
4
-1
1
3
-2
2
2
+0
0
3
-3
ban
TLN
1
1
+0
3
3
+0
2
3
-1
4
5
-1
4
5
-1
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
1
2
-1
1
1
+0
1
2
-1
0
1
-1
Crws
TLN
0
1
-1
primmie
TLN
0
1
-1
1
1
+0
JitBoyS
TLN
2
1
+1
1
1
+0
1
0
+1
ban
TLN
0
2
-2
0
1
-1
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
Crws
TLN
primmie
TLN
JitBoyS
TLN
ban
TLN
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
Crws
TLN
2
Round 16
Francis
margaret
Round 21
margaret
Persia
37
3
0
Governor
TLN
1
Round 15
Dambi
margaret
44
1
1
ban
TLN
2
Round 1
Ivy
Francis
Round 4
Ivy
Francis
2
Round 8
Francis
margaret
Ivy
Round 22
Ivy
Persia
margaret
1
Round 8
Ivy
margaret
41
2
0
JitBoyS
TLN
2
Round 13
Dambi
Persia
Round 14
Dambi
Francis
1
Round 11
Francis
Dambi
margaret
49
0
1
primmie
TLN
8
Round 2
margaret
Ivy
Round 8
Persia
Dambi
primmie
Round 12
margaret
Francis
Round 13
Ivy
margaret
Round 14
margaret
Ivy
Round 15
Francis
Persia
Round 19
Dambi
margaret
Round 21
Ivy
Francis
1
Round 6
Persia
Ivy
margaret
Francis
1
Round 21
Francis
76
0
1
Persia
NS
4
Round 3
JitBoyS
Governor
Round 5
Governor
JitBoyS
Round 7
JitBoyS
ban
Round 22
Crws
primmie
1
Round 10
ban
primmie
Governor
1
Round 4
JitBoyS
Governor
ban
61
0
0
Dambi
NS
3
Round 5
Crws
primmie
Round 9
primmie
ban
Round 12
Crws
Governor
1
Round 20
Crws
Governor
JitBoyS
56
0
0
Francis
NS
4
Round 3
ban
Crws
Round 4
primmie
Crws
Round 8
primmie
Crws
Round 15
ban
Governor
1
Round 19
Crws
primmie
ban
1
Round 22
ban
71
8
0
Ivy
NS
5
Round 9
Governor
Crws
Round 11
ban
JitBoyS
Round 12
primmie
ban
Round 15
JitBoyS
primmie
Round 16
ban
Crws
1
Round 15
primmie
1
Round 12
primmie
ban
65
0
1
margaret
NS
3
Round 17
Governor
Crws
Round 18
ban
primmie
Round 20
primmie
ban
45
0
0
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
3
2
+1
1
3
-2
1
7
-6
2
2
+0
1
4
-3
Crws
TLN
5
1
+4
7
3
+4
2
5
-3
5
3
+2
5
1
+4
primmie
TLN
3
4
-1
4
2
+2
2
1
+1
3
2
+1
4
3
+1
JitBoyS
TLN
5
1
+4
2
3
-1
5
2
+3
3
3
+0
4
3
+1
ban
TLN
2
5
-3
2
2
+0
6
2
+4
3
4
-1
1
4
-3
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
0
2
-2
2
0
+2
Crws
TLN
1
0
+1
0
2
-2
2
1
+1
1
0
+1
primmie
TLN
0
2
-2
JitBoyS
TLN
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
ban
TLN
1
1
+0
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
0
1
-1
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
Crws
TLN
primmie
TLN
JitBoyS
TLN
ban
TLN
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
Crws
TLN
6
Round 2
Ivy
Dambi
Round 8
Ivy
Persia
Round 11
margaret
Dambi
Round 13
Francis
Persia
Round 14
Persia
Ivy
Round 19
Francis
Ivy
1
Round 3
Dambi
margaret
Persia
1
Round 8
margaret
Francis
Persia
62
1
1
Governor
TLN
2
Round 13
margaret
Ivy
Round 19
Dambi
Persia
33
1
1
ban
TLN
2
Round 2
margaret
Francis
Round 9
margaret
Francis
40
8
0
JitBoyS
TLN
2
Round 7
margaret
Dambi
Round 21
Francis
margaret
2
Round 4
Dambi
Persia
margaret
Round 6
Dambi
Ivy
Francis
1
Round 11
Persia
1
Round 6
Ivy
Francis
68
1
1
primmie
TLN
4
Round 1
Francis
Persia
Round 7
Francis
Ivy
Round 20
Persia
Dambi
Round 23
Francis
margaret
54
0
1
Persia
NS
2
Round 5
Governor
JitBoyS
Round 11
Crws
primmie
1
Round 9
Crws
JitBoyS
ban
Governor
50
8
0
Dambi
NS
1
Round 22
primmie
Governor
ban
1
Round 14
ban
JitBoyS
Crws
Governor
1
Round 14
Governor
Crws
48
0
0
Francis
NS
1
Round 8
primmie
Governor
Francis
2
Round 15
Crws
JitBoyS
ban
Round 17
primmie
JitBoyS
Crws
44
2
1
Ivy
NS
2
Round 4
JitBoyS
ban
Round 6
Governor
primmie
1
Round 3
ban
Governor
Crws
1
Round 3
Crws
47
1
1
margaret
NS
3
Round 5
Crws
ban
Round 18
Governor
JitBoyS
Round 21
Crws
Governor
1
Round 8
ban
JitBoyS
Crws
62
0
0
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
5
3
+2
4
3
+1
2
3
-1
2
1
+1
3
2
+1
Crws
TLN
3
2
+1
1
2
-1
4
1
+3
0
4
-4
0
3
-3
primmie
TLN
6
2
+4
3
3
+0
2
1
+1
11
3
+8
3
0
+3
JitBoyS
TLN
1
2
-1
4
2
+2
6
0
+6
2
0
+2
6
1
+5
ban
TLN
1
3
-2
0
1
-1
1
2
-1
1
1
+0
2
4
-2
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
2
1
+1
1
2
-1
1
1
+0
Crws
TLN
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
primmie
TLN
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
JitBoyS
TLN
1
0
+1
ban
TLN
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
Dambi
NS
Persia
NS
margaret
NS
Francis
NS
Ivy
NS
Governor
TLN
Crws
TLN
primmie
TLN
JitBoyS
TLN
ban
TLN
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
Crws
TLN
1
Round 10
margaret
Dambi
28
0
0
Governor
TLN
4
Round 5
margaret
Persia
Round 8
Dambi
margaret
Round 11
Dambi
Ivy
Round 15
Persia
Dambi
1
Round 14
Dambi
Ivy
Persia
Francis
1
Round 1
Persia
56
1
0
ban
TLN
1
Round 6
Francis
Ivy
23
0
0
JitBoyS
TLN
6
Round 2
margaret
Francis
Round 3
margaret
Ivy
JitBoyS
Round 4
Persia
Ivy
Round 9
Dambi
margaret
Round 11
margaret
Persia
Round 18
Persia
Ivy
1
Round 13
margaret
Francis
Ivy
80
2
1
primmie
TLN
4
Round 10
Francis
Persia
Round 15
Ivy
Francis
Round 17
Francis
Persia
Round 18
Dambi
Francis
2
Round 1
Francis
margaret
Dambi
Round 2
Ivy
Dambi
Persia
1
Round 12
margaret
Dambi
Francis
Ivy
1
Round 15
Francis
110
2
1
Persia
NS
1
Round 3
Crws
primmie
Persia
2
Round 1
primmie
JitBoyS
Governor
Round 12
Governor
primmie
ban
1
Round 3
primmie
JitBoyS
47
0
0
Dambi
NS
1
Round 16
primmie
Governor
1
Round 6
Crws
primmie
ban
JitBoyS
62
1
0
Francis
NS
3
Round 4
Crws
primmie
Round 13
primmie
ban
Round 15
Crws
primmie
49
3
0
Ivy
NS
3
Round 9
ban
Governor
Round 10
Crws
ban
Round 16
JitBoyS
ban
39
2
0
margaret
NS
38
0
0
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Past Matches
Comments:
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#1
Imsexylexy
16
Frags
+

Nongshim RedForce 2-1 Talon
2 Overtimes
Primmie aces

#32
iGoByAFewNames
2
Frags
+

will i win 1 million dollars?

#50
Fqmane
3
Frags
+

if you bet 500k on NSR then yeah

#110
Naetivatx
3
Frags
+

Congrats, bro 🥰

#2
Jerbungo
-6
Frags
+

DFM 2-1 TS

DFM continues to shock the world by making it to the top 4.

#3
D3veloper
1
Frags
+

NS 2-0 TLN

#4
PP12123213123
10
Frags
+

TLN 2-1 NS

#5
yehfela
0
Frags
+

NS 2-0 TBD

#6
hibunbun
1
Frags
+

NS 2-0 TLN

#8
hibunbun
-1
Frags
+

wait TLN isn't here ?

#109
hibunbun
0
Frags
+

Thank god Primmie my GOAT

#7
yehfela
-2
Frags
+

NS 26-5 tln

#9
Monsteiur
0
Frags
+

rrq/ns 2-1 geng

#10
guy_69
0
Frags
+

why tf is geng here another pacific moment ?

#11
Rikkumi
2
Frags
+

this is talon spot, not geng

#12
Prakerja
0
Frags
+

💀💀💀 it's gonna happen again doesn't it?

#13
Brunoo
0
Frags
+

Rrq v gen g rematch 😈

#35
pitchfork
1
Frags
+

nt

#14
TMosura
0
Frags
+

Fellas, no bracket flip apparently. This remains Talon's match.

#16
Prakerja
0
Frags
+

Ahh sadge

#15
irishsamingg
0
Frags
+

bye bye t0lon

#66
Luffyo7
-1
Frags
+

Bro u are jinx plss remove nrg flair

#17
31Raven
-3
Frags
+

pr0mm00 loses her
ns 2-0 t0l0n

#146
31Raven
0
Frags
+

i didnt know ball apparently

#18
Solsticez
1
Frags
+

Bye talon

#19
BlahoJJJ
-7
Frags
+

Pls nongshims destroy talon into pieces🙏🙏

#20
jonny05
1
Frags
+

NSR 2-1 TLN

#21
nonchalantasian
1
Frags
+

2-1 NS

#22
GuGengKwaMueng
3
Frags
+

Talon 2-1 NS

#23
Lyze
2
Frags
+

Save Us Talon

#24
Orik
0
Frags
+

SEA last hope huh? which is hardly to rely on ones 😔

#25
REDDOG
3
Frags
+

sea vs VCT korean

#26
Amexdxyz
1
Frags
+

NS 2-0 TLN

#27
wanjeab
1
Frags
+

SEA last hope 😂

#28
monopoly90
0
Frags
+

o7 to talon, for a mid team I admit they did okay for staying in the tourney this long

#114
Al-Mawsil
0
Frags
+

yeah yeah

#29
makesung
1
Frags
+

TLN 2-1
Trust in Fr0st

#39
bobwoblob
-1
Frags
+

No trust in pr0m00

#30
Pakatron
0
Frags
+

boom or doom for talon

#31
meanmean
1
Frags
+

NS 2-0 TLN
no SEA team in bkk

#33
Dalbit
3
Frags
+

Just realized NS has been against all SEA teams in lower bracket.
It's NS vs SEA and they like those odds.

#34
Aayan
0
Frags
+

I think NS wins this but I really want to see a home team at Bangkok

#36
Average_VCT_fan
0
Frags
+

ns 2-0

#37
bearmans
0
Frags
+

if you guys somehow fumble this talon...

#38
Burgundy
7
Frags
+

Strongest SEA team vs weakest Korean team lmao

#40
PkBTH
2
Frags
+

TLN likely lose. Hate to say it but can't deny.

#41
irishsamingg
-7
Frags
+

pr0000000m00000000 most overrated player in valorant history alongside j00000000ngggggggg and s000mth0000nggggggg

#100
fr0ster0p
0
Frags
+

hmm

#42
9NEPAL
0
Frags
+

TLN STILL WIN BUT SO CLOSE

#43
YGLightning
0
Frags
+

TLN 2-0 NON

#44
cheesus
0
Frags
+

NS 2-0 they have more consistent aim

#45
1One1
1
Frags
+

Talon is weaker than RRQ, should be easier for NS

#46
Coolkas
0
Frags
+

Memekla harusnya RRQ disini kalo ga nge throw ke b mulu di overtime map 2. Udah tau dapid lg sakit idungnya sampe ngeluarin darah

#47
swEEsh2M
0
Frags
+

Frost is not a good coach

#48
Jajajajajajjah
2
Frags
+

ns 2-0 talon
frost and gov need to pack their bag

#49
nhizao
1
Frags
+

sea last hope will win it all for you dont worry

#51
eMby
0
Frags
+

EASY 2-0 FOR NS

#52
Teeratada_kub
0
Frags
+

TLN 2-1 close match

#53
pluemranger
0
Frags
+

Talon 2-1

#54
meanmean
-1
Frags
+

NS 2-0 ez ngl

#55
cheQm8__
0
Frags
+

I don't think so this match would be that easy to be honest. Depends on the mental health of NS. They must be tired of yesterday's match but yeah hope they got enough rest and prep

#56
dapada
0
Frags
+

SEA last hope

#57
pitchfork
0
Frags
+

NSWIN

Margaret Persia Ivy drop 30 each map

#58
Coolkas
2
Frags
+

NS 2-1
PRIMMIE +20
GOVERNOR -20

#59
Eev
0
Frags
+

my goats nongshim 2-0

#60
LLoopinear
0
Frags
+

nice b0n

#61
Feardarkness
-1
Frags
+

Governor so fucking dumb

#62
yehfela
-3
Frags
+

Goodbye talnoob

#115
vexdia
0
Frags
+

ok

#63
KitsuneVLR
0
Frags
+

korean diff

#64
zdw
0
Frags
+

TALUL auto lose map1

#65
Fruitless
0
Frags
+

SEA OVER 😔

#67
Prontera
0
Frags
+

2-0 nongshim.

SEA is just that Bad. Might as well let apac fill by Japan & ke teams only.

#68
Himmelgoat
2
Frags
+

Ez reverse sweep for TLN

#69
Stormyv8
1
Frags
+

How shit must rrq bind be lol NS is struggling rn

#70
LLoopinear
0
Frags
+
  • g0v pls Fuck is xxxx
#71
1ucid
7
Frags
+

tln need a good duelist

#72
gayboi
8
Frags
+

Gov pls bro how do u miss that

#73
Wts_mesole
1
Frags
+

Change governor you guy will beat everyone please
I CANT MY EYES HURT

#74
RatLoverOK69
0
Frags
+

why is gov trolling on purpose?????

#88
cheQm8__
0
Frags
+

on purpose? i feel like it's his usual playstyle

#75
donkie
-2
Frags
+

-dambi +sayaplayer

#85
wearesocookedchat
0
Frags
+

avg NA brain

#131
Melloaw
0
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Does saya speak korean or nah

#76
Melloaw
2
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talon pistol 4-0
Edit 6-0 lmao

#77
zdw
0
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talon god of choke

#78
Amadeus11
0
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fake comeback. lul

#79
Orik
0
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crws' life game

#80
Wts_mesole
2
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Man everyone is good except governor not gonna lie his skill make this team tier lower

#81
Vulneb
14
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OK. THIS GOVERNER GUY IS PURE TRASH MAN.

#87
cheQm8__
0
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Fr

#82
MeowLondon
-9
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Just kick Crws , Tal0n wll win

#83
Wts_mesole
10
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U watching the same game as me?
GOVERNOR need to GET OUT🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥🗣🔥🔥

#92
Jajajajajajjah
3
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มึงดูเกมเดียวกับกูป่าววะเหมียว

#125
retreaters
0
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you really want to kick talon's igt? (in game translator)

#134
Rigrig
0
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nah TLN can't kick him because he's do everythings in talon

#84
gayboi
0
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GOVORNOR THIS IS YOUR MAP TO PROVE US WRONG I CANT KEEP DEFENDING YOU ANY LONGER LOCK THE FUCK IN

#104
donkie
0
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yea he prove it

#117
gayboi
0
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True

#86
cheQm8__
0
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-15 after two maps just shows how bad your performance is and bringing your team down. They can't make it to Bangkok with governor on team since he is the duelist.

#89
milkywayyyyy
-5
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crws idiot nice throw at 6 round

#90
Anzaldinho
0
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why pick neon on split brah

#91
1ucid
6
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jitboy and primmie really wanna make bangkok.

#96
cheQm8__
0
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Bangkok is little bit a stretch atm imo

#93
hinahinaa
5
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dambi really need to learn how to play on other agents

#94
milkywayyyyy
3
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primmie goat

#95
donkie
0
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gov is the best korean duelist rn???????????????????????????????

#102
hinahinaa
1
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hyunmin and buzz stil exists bro

#111
koromast
1
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omfg what did i just read

#136
MNFRKK
1
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Wtf is this donkey

#97
meteor1214
-2
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if talon quals for bangkok Im gonna crash out

#98
Seo_w
1
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glad they're still smiling at a 4-11 <3

#101
loapoarg
1
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they are very positive

#99
Drakath
1
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D4MBI or DUMBI WHAT WILL DAMBI DO NEXT

#103
RENDANG_ISNT_CRISPY
2
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THANK YOU TALON ESPORTS FOR BODIED THAT NEON MERCHANT. PLEASE EAT YOUR NONGSHIM RAMYUN IN TEARS AND LEARN OTHER AGENT D000MBI!!!!

#105
Amadeus11
1
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EZ TALON EZ TALON EZ TALON TY TALON!

#106
yehfela
-2
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My Ns...

#107
Das2teEnde
1
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Gg nt my goat ivy (questions do yall think ns>guard as ascention Team or no?)

#120
Ductorian
0
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i love NS, but nah guard/current g2 is insane

#108
jersey339
7
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Talon as SEA last hope is insane

#112
Kowloon1st
-4
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seandainya rrq ban lotus dan pick split.... emg goblog ewok

#113
_Nonsense
6
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Primmie diff

#116
LLoopinear
7
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Primmie +27

#118
newbiezz
-19
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Primmie got lucky again, but he’ll be exposed in the next game

#122
Papichulo07
15
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nah fake thai ahh comment

#126
samcapybaraaaa
-6
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Real

#137
meepo567
4
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jealous khmer spot here

#127
hibunbun
9
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+

ลัคกี้พ่อมึงอะ

#119
afreespirit
15
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"primmie overrated" 😹

#124
Dhrom49
-23
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+27 vs tier 2 team

#128
Wts_mesole
17
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Hope to see nrg in bangkok soon!

#140
Razib_Khan
-3
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nrg played against 100t & kru & all of them made internationals where as talon played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team who never made any international so next game will decide if talon is actually good or not

#143
Wts_mesole
1
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If you dont know talon make international too
I mean bro they almost beat t1

#121
2NaCl
5
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Ig primmie can play anything then

#123
Sapparot
4
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Nice Talon

#129
Bhrubby
2
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Yo what in the primmie

#130
D3veloper
1
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NT NS

You guys have showed us what u guys had

#132
qwer348
2
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primmie best player in the world rn?

#133
Rigrig
4
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he's always good but best in the world he must approve more

#135
Sonatine
6
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Hard to say who is "the best". By statistics when you take the last 4 years of VCT it's Fnatic Leo (numbers of disconnected duels, impact, KAST% / survivability and winning duels in low chance situations).

When you take Duelists and these kind of entrying players who are also anchoring etc., I'd say Derke, aspas, primmie, MiniBoo, zekken, something, Jemkin, KangKang, xeus and kaajak are the best at the moment. Like of all the players in VCT. Hard to tell who's the best - by mechanics probably Derke, aspas, primmie and xeus. That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.

Fact is also primmie would play even better stats at a better team. So I'd say he is def. one of the top 3 Duelist style players when it comes to pure talent. Interesting though, that he did almost no entry kills in this match. It were much more anchor kills.

#139
Razib_Khan
0
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the issue is talon didnt play against any good team only played against global embarrassment & tier 2 team so next match will decide if they are actually good & primme is top 3 duelist !!

#142
monopoly90
0
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true but they did put up numbers against T1 tho, so for a mid team they are not too shabby i guess

#145
1243
-2
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"miniboo, something, jemkin, xeus, kaajak, primmie"
what are you saying
they are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO being the best
3 of them are fucking rookies
y'all are clueless
also drop the fnatic bias
"primmie one of the top 3 duelists when it comes to talent" LMAOAKA
leo hasn't played in a year move on

#147
Sonatine
2
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I said overall by their talent they def. belong to the best and showed it already.

I also said this: That's why it's better to compare after a full season everyone who played that season incl. 2-3 majors and compare all important numbers. Compare for that specific year and then maybe make a long term comparison every 3 years.

When we talk about primmie we can talk about MiniBoo easily - and also about the others, since primmie didn't play majors yet. But people can acknowledge TALENT and mechanical abilities, skill to roam, to anchor... you can see that at players without seeing them on majors, even though they need to prove it of course that they can show it under pressure on big stages.

So I guess we agree there. Many talents need to show it on a long term.

I'm not FNC biased. I'm just into statistics because numbers don't lie.

Most deadly players in 2024 by duels (Leo by far on #1):
https://i.ibb.co/yBN74mGW/Unbenannt.png

Best players 2024 (Leo played almost 900 rounds; by far the best KAST% and best disconnected duel wins as always):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=61&event_id=all&region=all&min_rounds=500&min_rating=1550&agent=all&map_id=all&timespan=all

Best players OF ALL TIME in VCT (min. OPP raiting of 2000 and min. 750 rounds against top rated players / Leo is the #1):
https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all&region=all&min_rounds=750&min_rating=2000&agent=all&map_id=all&timespan=all

  • Leo also was rated 1x official major MVP by Riot and 2x unofficially by one of the big websites (VLR, SPIKE.GG etc.)
  • Leo is #1 by VLR and THESPIKE.GG rating for 2023, #2 for 2022 and #2 for 2021 (no other player has such a crazy top 3 stats)

So... it's just numbers. No bias there.

And primmies stats also don't lie. He is a menace. I'm 99% sure players like MiniBoo, primmie and xeus will show great performances on big stages.

#138
snowconedeity
1
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Primmie glaze is justified he deadass has carried his team to top 4 (Jitboys doing work too guy is hella underrated)

#141
videte
3
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guys i think ban and governor is the weakest link

#144
gordonramsay
0
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primmie is too good. NS decent showing and 5 weeks left to adapt to non neon now.

#148
yuriito
0
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Sad for NS 😭

#149
love_trial
0
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i will never stop glazing you primmie i’m pouring honey on you goat

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