They build one of the worst BR roster of all time and i see even NA fans putting them on top 3?
What are you guys on?
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LOUD overrated as fuck
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cloudberry [#2]Nobody is overrating them, but regardless, how in the world is a team with pANcada cauanzin tuyz the worst Brazilian roster of all time?
nah this person on that brazillian coke
cloudberry [#2]Nobody is overrating them, but regardless, how in the world is a team with pANcada cauanzin tuyz the worst Brazilian roster of all time?
By putting them with one of the worst IGL of tier 2 in Brazil, this guy plays since 2020 and he didn't win anything in Brazil.
If one year with saadhak they couldn't win anything what makes you think that signing one of the worst IGLs of tier 2 will bring you a title?
This is just dumb.
aleckin [#8]loud got a easy bracket, they are better than eg and its 50/50 against kru
I can imagine loud getting top 3
EG with icy will be a good team, they are not winning against EG.
cloudberry [#2]Nobody is overrating them, but regardless, how in the world is a team with pANcada cauanzin tuyz the worst Brazilian roster of all time?
It's not the worst but there are still some issues with the team, more specifically the roles and the IGLing issue.
Hyssopus1 [#5]By putting them with one of the worst IGL of tier 2 in Brazil, this guy plays since 2020 and he didn't win anything in Brazil.
If one year with saadhak they couldn't win anything what makes you think that signing one of the worst IGLs of tier 2 will bring you a title?
This is just dumb.
LOUD not winning anything last year had nothing to do with Saadhak's igling. In fact, he wasn't even igling that much in Stage 2, it was cauanzin helping fill that role on the maps where he was on Neon. But that aside, though, it's not like you can carry a team with good igling. LOUD were clearly very dysfunctional last year despite their player quality, and even though I love Saadhak, if you can put in a worse igl but have better team synergy, then that's an upgrade. And v1nny already has that; he's worked with pANcada and dgzin before.
Also, how is v1nny one of the worst igls? It almost feels like you're biased against this new team. v1nny brought RED Canids to 2nd in Split 1 and 5-6th in Split 2—which isn't "winning anything" but let's be real... winning tournaments isn't exactly a measure of how good a player or team is, anyway. His stats aren't spectacular, sure, but his agent pool is very good and flexibility is something LOUD are in need of. Plus, as mentioned earlier, he already has synergy with half the team.
ninjaturtle [#10]It's not the worst but there are still some issues with the team, more specifically the roles and the IGLing issue.
dgzin (duelist)
cauanzin (initiator)
v1nny (flex/igl)
pANcada (controller)
tuyz (sentinel)
cloudberry [#12]LOUD not winning anything last year had nothing to do with Saadhak's igling. In fact, he wasn't even igling that much in Stage 2, it was cauanzin helping fill that role on the maps where he was on Neon. But that aside, though, it's not like you can carry a team with good igling. LOUD were clearly very dysfunctional last year despite their player quality, and even though I love Saadhak, if you can put in a worse igl but have better team synergy, then that's an upgrade. And v1nny already has that; he's worked with pANcada and dgzin before.
Also, how is v1nny one of the worst igls? It almost feels like you're biased against this new team. v1nny brought RED Canids to 2nd in Split 1 and 5-6th in Split 2—which isn't "winning anything" but let's be real... winning tournaments isn't exactly a measure of how good a player or team is, anyway. His stats aren't spectacular, sure, but his agent pool is very good and flexibility is something LOUD are in need of. Plus, as mentioned earlier, he already has synergy with half the team.
4 Years in Tier 2 = 0 titles.
He is only on LOUD because he is pancada Friend.
Hyssopus1 [#14]4 Years in Tier 2 = 0 titles.
He is only on LOUD because he is pancada Friend.
Again, not winning titles ≠ bad player
Also if v1nny is your only problem with LOUD then how are they the worst Brazilian team of all time in your eyes?
cloudberry [#16]Again, not winning titles ≠ bad player
Also if v1nny is your only problem with LOUD then how are they the worst Brazilian team of all time in your eyes?
Never was a TOP 10 Stats player in Tier 2 in all his career, but yes he should be in LOUD and be the IGL of Cauanzin,pancada and tuyz.
Also they will not be worse than MIBR 2023, but they will be the worst LOUD roster all time.
cloudberry [#13]dgzin (duelist)
cauanzin (initiator)
v1nny (flex/igl)
pANcada (controller)
tuyz (sentinel)
tuyz could have a problem shifting to sentinel after going from duelist to controller to duelist to part-initiator, idk just my take
Hyssopus1 [#9]EG with icy will be a good team, they are not winning against EG.
ok this post is bait
uwukitten [#20]aren't you the same guy that thinks MIBR will be good?
hey will be good you will see
bem_te_vi [#23]ok this post is bait
Sim potter com yay e icy no time vai ser "free win" não conhece o basico da cena e quer falar q o post é bait.
Vai lá e depois diz q o cenario é imprevisível quando a EG por algum "milagre" for boa.
Hyssopus1 [#25]Sim potter com yay e icy no time vai ser "free win" não conhece o basico da cena e quer falar q o post é bait.
Vai lá e depois diz q o cenario é imprevisível quando a EG por algum "milagre" for boa.
ce que sabe pai
Hyssopus1 [#25]Sim potter com yay e icy no time vai ser "free win" não conhece o basico da cena e quer falar q o post é bait.
Vai lá e depois diz q o cenario é imprevisível quando a EG por algum "milagre" for boa.
eg em 2024 nao chegou a um playoff, salvo o kickoff que jogaram um jogo
manteve o mesmo core, perdeu o melhor jogador do time, e o substituto não chega nem perto dele. icy? tá de sacanagem?
trocou tambem o pior jogador do time, substituiu por um acima, mas que também não compensa a perda do jawgemo
no MÁXIMO esse time tá no mesmo nível do desse ano. potter não faz milagre nenhum. já não é 2023
bem_te_vi [#23]ok this post is bait
essa fé na eg de 2025 é bizarra pq esse ano eles só ganharam na sorte de time que tava fudido na época e eles mantiveram o msm core
era pra eles terem ficado 0-12 na temporada, sempre que pegavam um time que tava minimamente arrumado tomavam um sapeco
foythvlr [#28]essa fé na eg de 2025 é bizarra pq esse ano eles só ganharam na sorte de time que tava fudido na época e eles mantiveram o msm core
era pra eles terem ficado 0-12 na temporada, sempre que pegavam um time que tava minimamente arrumado tomavam um sapeco
Essa EG vai ser igual a C9 foi esse ano, ainda é um time meio de tabela perigoso.
Hyssopus1 [#29]Essa EG vai ser igual a C9 foi esse ano, ainda é um time meio de tabela perigoso.
C9 esse ano foi a mesma coisa, tiveram uma lucky run e pegaram time que tava na merda sucessivamente (LEV do começo do ano, EG, loud do qck, Furia do kon4n e MIBR pré-palla, perderam justamente pro time mais arrumado que era a 100t campeã). so tu ver que no split 2 saíram de um 5-1 pra um 6-5, quase não classificaram pros playoffs de bobeira. sempre que pegaram um time minimamente arrumado, tomaram pica, só ganharam daquela nrg capenga. 2025 ngm vai dar esse mole
Hyssopus1 [#19]Never was a TOP 10 Stats player in Tier 2 in all his career, but yes he should be in LOUD and be the IGL of Cauanzin,pancada and tuyz.
Also they will not be worse than MIBR 2023, but they will be the worst LOUD roster all time.
so what you're saying is you don't think they will top 4 at an international event, because that's what the worst loud roster did...
LOUD got rid of their 2 best players: arguably the best IGL all time, and one of if not the best sentinels of 2023, if you thought they were going to be as good as any of the LOUD rosters before them then that's an insane bar to set
I would be happy with seeing this LOUD roster compete against good teams, and hopefully next year or at the end of this year once v1nny gets the hang of igling and pancada is back to form, and with a t2 brazilian duelist prospect they can start trying to reach for the title of the best in the world again
Yistyy [#31]i say because tuyz is a top tier player. he taught me how to play harbor.
tuyz cauanzin and pancada are excellent players, the unknown is the rest of the players and the coaching staff
Syr0m [#33]tuyz cauanzin and pancada are excellent players, the unknown is the rest of the players and the coaching staff
dgzin erasure is crazy
pancada and dgzin were insane at the same time, and both were thrown into shit situations and had to deal with random bullshit, took time off, and are now coming back, but we don't care about dgzin because reasons?
2022 dgzin awp made his enemies fear his site, that furia team was pretty freaking good (dont talk about drx)
Hyssopus1 [#19]Never was a TOP 10 Stats player in Tier 2 in all his career, but yes he should be in LOUD and be the IGL of Cauanzin,pancada and tuyz.
Also they will not be worse than MIBR 2023, but they will be the worst LOUD roster all time.
bro if zap didn't qualify through ascension and loud picked him you would say the same thing "ahhh but he's playing since 2020 and didn't win nothing!!" even though he's a good igl, so wait for v1nny to play and then you can say something
ninjaturtle [#22]tuyz could have a problem shifting to sentinel after going from duelist to controller to duelist to part-initiator, idk just my take
I said the same thing until I saw his tracker
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