I never watched nor played csgo so im curious who is better/more dominanr S1mple in csgo or Tenz in Valorant?
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Salafi_Scholar [#2]Too early to tell in the case of TenZ. S1mple has been a top player for many years now we'd have to have more data to make the comparison.
but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
S1mple is by far the GREATEST fps player to ever live. TenZ is the best player in the world in valorant right now but he is nowhere near what s1mple is in CSGO. it's not just skills , mechanics even the desire to win to be the best in the world , to always work to improve yourself s1mple is ahead of tenZ in every way. but if tenZ keeps winning like this for like 5/6 year then he'll be like s1mple i guess. unless people like s1mple , zywoo , niko and other t1 cs pro comes in valorant then i doubt tenZ can stay as #1 as he is right now. he'll still be easily top 5 or 10 tho
ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
It’s a pretty unfair comparison because they play very different roles, S1mple is an awper through and through, he’s basically like Waddell and tries to get an awp any time he can get it, while TenZ is more of a hyper aggressive rifler/duelist, and also the relative difficulty to pull off a carry job like TenZ does sometimes compared to cs. I’d say because of the way duelists function and thrive off of aim duels in valorant TenZ still isn’t on S1mple’s level due to his straight up talent and ability, but we’ll see in the future.
CrimsonPride [#6]S1mple is by far the GREATEST fps player to ever live. TenZ is the best player in the world in valorant right now but he is nowhere near what s1mple is in CSGO. it's not just skills , mechanics even the desire to win to be the best in the world , to always work to improve yourself s1mple is ahead of tenZ in every way. but if tenZ keeps winning like this for like 5/6 year then he'll be like s1mple i guess. unless people like s1mple , zywoo , niko and other t1 cs pro comes in valorant then i doubt tenZ can stay as #1 as he is right now. he'll still be easily top 5 or 10 tho
Definitely agree if some of these tier 1 EU CS players move to val and learn the agents, I don't think TenZ would be number 1.
Sunot [#10]I feel like he will be like Shox in Valorant. When he's motivated he destroys everyone but when he isn't feeling it just drops the ball. Same with fnx
Prime shox on verygames and early Titan was beautiful to watch. He would be in a 1v3, 1v4 and I would feel bad for the enemy team that he was the last one alive because he would just win every time. An actual monster
Sunot [#10]I feel like he will be like Shox in Valorant. When he's motivated he destroys everyone but when he isn't feeling it just drops the ball. Same with fnx
damn the motivated shox meme made it to vlr
V0sotros [#8]It’s a pretty unfair comparison because they play very different roles, S1mple is an awper through and through, he’s basically like Waddell and tries to get an awp any time he can get it, while TenZ is more of a hyper aggressive rifler/duelist, and also the relative difficulty to pull off a carry job like TenZ does sometimes compared to cs. I’d say because of the way duelists function and thrive off of aim duels in valorant TenZ still isn’t on S1mple’s level due to his straight up talent and ability, but we’ll see in the future.
Yeah and comparing them both is so difficult because cs has a very slow playstyle as compared to valorant. But in my opinion S1mple still is the better player because it's 2022 and I still feel like he is in his prime, I have never seen someone so dominant for so many yrs.
s1mple is the god of cs or maybe even the fps genre for many years and still going, while valorant is still a new game so its hard to tell if tenz will dominate valorant for many years like s1mple did in cs. i dont mean winning all the events cause s1mple didnt, but statistically s1mple was the best or top 2 cs player every year.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#16]s1mple could never be as good as TenZ in val, cause vanguard would catch him pretty fast.
funny
Easy_for_MWZERA [#21]Not a joke though. lol
how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious
Ms [#24]Difference is if Simple played valorant it's very posdible he could be top 1. On the othee hand if Tenz played cs he'd be a tier 2 player.
TenZ was worse than t2
Sentinels wouldn't even be able to crush ESEA MDL teams
They might pick up some wins, but definitely not be as dominant
It's a different game though
Wwpcc [#27]Imagine comparing GOD S1mple with CS failure TenZ.
comparing TenZ with s1mple is just disrespect to s1mple honestly
Same with comparing Sentinels to Astralis, disrespect to Astralis
Tenz has top aiming and reaction talents, and is still young, so it depends on how Tenz progresses to develop his potential. But it's not good enough for now.
BTW Tenz’s CSGO career has no reference value, CSGO is just a practice game early in his career and he didnt try too hard, who cares about a young player’s previous noob stage (except for CSGO fans LUL)? People knows which game has a better future. Although he is young and can continue to progress, it is not worth to waste time of his important stage in CSGO. This theory applies to all young players move to VALORANT from CSGO.
BTW I think Cned have a greate advantage in aspect of career XD
Neon74 [#25]how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious
they do have a history of calling players that shit on them cheaters
like your flair for example
SETSUZA [#37]they do have a history of calling players that shit on them cheaters
like your flair for example
true, i still remember brazil sent death threats to the Chaos trio LOL
ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
Nah s1mple did it against an established esport, where top teams dispute the title of the best teams in the world, give it time to the scene to evolve, Tenz is like Get_Right where he dominated in the early years.
paperdark [#34]Tenz has top aiming and reaction talents, and is still young, so it depends on how Tenz progresses to develop his potential. But it's not good enough for now.
BTW Tenz’s CSGO career has no reference value, CSGO is just a practice game early in his career and he didnt try too hard, who cares about a young player’s previous noob stage (except for CSGO fans LUL)? People knows which game has a better future. Although he is young and can continue to progress, it is not worth to waste time of his important stage in CSGO. This theory applies to all young players move to VALORANT from CSGO.
BTW I think Cned have a greate advantage in aspect of career XD
So you get paid thousand of dollars and you don't take you job serious? You're so dumb dude.
when i open this thread i understand that maybe 80% of guys here have 0% knowledge - exp. probably switched from a game line minecraft or apex (which is not bad). s1mple is the most consistent mvp - hard carry >all in the top tier fps game who dominate everything. hes fast precise hes styling hes all. everybody knows that eu cs go is better than na cs go. go watch s1mple highlights cologne he destroyed like ranked. tenz is not even close that good in valorant how good s1mple is in cs. for me personally i think RIGHT NOW is NA Valorant better than EU but i think VS is strongest Team. This is a TEAM Game, individuals will not do much. Best example is Supermassive Blaze. Germany is playing best Football, why? In young years we get tought its a TEAM Game.
Remember my words, in this fresh new era will „Regions“ dominate. But i see huge potential for underdogs to make their success. PRX and Vivo Keyd worked so hard.
Lets stop the trashtalk and hate and spread love guys..
Valorant worst community in the world
pashafps [#44]when i open this thread i understand that maybe 80% of guys here have 0% knowledge - exp. probably switched from a game line minecraft or apex (which is not bad). s1mple is the most consistent mvp - hard carry >all in the top tier fps game who dominate everything. hes fast precise hes styling hes all. everybody knows that eu cs go is better than na cs go. go watch s1mple highlights cologne he destroyed like ranked. tenz is not even close that good in valorant how good s1mple is in cs. for me personally i think RIGHT NOW is NA Valorant better than EU but i think VS is strongest Team. This is a TEAM Game, individuals will not do much. Best example is Supermassive Blaze. Germany is playing best Football, why? In young years we get tought its a TEAM Game.
Remember my words, in this fresh new era will „Regions“ dominate. But i see huge potential for underdogs to make their success. PRX and Vivo Keyd worked so hard.
Lets stop the trashtalk and hate and spread love guys..Valorant worst community in the world
i agree with the underdog part
pashafps [#44]when i open this thread i understand that maybe 80% of guys here have 0% knowledge - exp. probably switched from a game line minecraft or apex (which is not bad). s1mple is the most consistent mvp - hard carry >all in the top tier fps game who dominate everything. hes fast precise hes styling hes all. everybody knows that eu cs go is better than na cs go. go watch s1mple highlights cologne he destroyed like ranked. tenz is not even close that good in valorant how good s1mple is in cs. for me personally i think RIGHT NOW is NA Valorant better than EU but i think VS is strongest Team. This is a TEAM Game, individuals will not do much. Best example is Supermassive Blaze. Germany is playing best Football, why? In young years we get tought its a TEAM Game.
Remember my words, in this fresh new era will „Regions“ dominate. But i see huge potential for underdogs to make their success. PRX and Vivo Keyd worked so hard.
Lets stop the trashtalk and hate and spread love guys..Valorant worst community in the world
I agree with valorant is a team game part
Is your question like "Is TenZ as successful and dominant in Valorant as s1mple in CSGO"? If it is, then I don't think so just because the game has only been out for a little over a year. S1mple has been dominant and at the top for like 5 years now. If Sentinels and TenZ stay the best for maybe 3 or more years then maybe the answer to this question wouldn't be so clear-cut. Give TenZ some time. The scariest part about him is he's already the best player in the world but is still young and can improve.
The Valorant scene would be different in three years though especially with more T1 pros switching over to Valorant, especially the NA ones (EliGE, NAF, Twistzz). Those three can make a big impact in the NA scene and might challenge TenZ and Asuna at the top of NA.
paperdark [#34]Tenz has top aiming and reaction talents, and is still young, so it depends on how Tenz progresses to develop his potential. But it's not good enough for now.
BTW Tenz’s CSGO career has no reference value, CSGO is just a practice game early in his career and he didnt try too hard, who cares about a young player’s previous noob stage (except for CSGO fans LUL)? People knows which game has a better future. Although he is young and can continue to progress, it is not worth to waste time of his important stage in CSGO. This theory applies to all young players move to VALORANT from CSGO.
BTW I think Cned have a greate advantage in aspect of career XD
Saying Tenz didnt take cs seriously is just disrespectful as fuck to him, kid constantly grinded for hours a day perfecting his aim and playing fpl
To be honest it's not even close. s1mple is one of the greatest fps players as for now.
Most likely if t1 orgs from CS with all the stuff will switch. It won't take more than 6-8 months to dominate the scene at least in EU region. It's much harder to be t1 team in CS than in Valorant right now. From what I know most of t1 players are playing like 8-12h a day so that's the reason why most of them never stream on twitch. The game became their job so all the free time they have they prefer to spend outside of the computer. Same with most of the e-sport disciplines with that much events and tournaments
Now or later the same will happen with Valorant
primum [#49]Saying Tenz didnt take cs seriously is just disrespectful as fuck to him, kid constantly grinded for hours a day perfecting his aim and playing fpl
+1
Fortunately or unfortunately he just failed in CS and that's the main reason why he was benched from C9 and then switch to Valorant as soon as the game was released. He had great aim but his decision-making ability was like really bad
Excalibur5 [#53]guys pls dont compare CS:GO to Valorant. It is an insult to CS:GO
Kids play Valorant
Legends play CS:GO
washed play Valorant, gud ones play CS KKonaW
Neon74 [#40]true, i still remember brazil sent death threats to the Chaos trio LOL
Hiko had to hire bodyguards lol. Br fans xD
Newb1eweaK [#32]no need for comparison, they both best in their own way. we didnt know what will happen if tenz have a head-to-head match on s1mple on CS Game .. or S1mple head-to-head match on Tenz in Valorant Game . stop Comparing Players :D just appreciate both of them :)
Head to head s1mple will dominate Tenz in CS 100%, in Val Tenz will dominate.
Neon74 [#25]how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious
He is just kidding men, lol
SETSUZA [#37]they do have a history of calling players that shit on them cheaters
like your flair for example
We actually destroyed s1mple lots of times between 2015 and 2017. And people are generalizing, I don't call anyone else cheater, only s1mple. You guys are just too naive, banned twice for hacking, has the stats no other player in history had, never has a bad game.
pashafps [#44]when i open this thread i understand that maybe 80% of guys here have 0% knowledge - exp. probably switched from a game line minecraft or apex (which is not bad). s1mple is the most consistent mvp - hard carry >all in the top tier fps game who dominate everything. hes fast precise hes styling hes all. everybody knows that eu cs go is better than na cs go. go watch s1mple highlights cologne he destroyed like ranked. tenz is not even close that good in valorant how good s1mple is in cs. for me personally i think RIGHT NOW is NA Valorant better than EU but i think VS is strongest Team. This is a TEAM Game, individuals will not do much. Best example is Supermassive Blaze. Germany is playing best Football, why? In young years we get tought its a TEAM Game.
Remember my words, in this fresh new era will „Regions“ dominate. But i see huge potential for underdogs to make their success. PRX and Vivo Keyd worked so hard.
Lets stop the trashtalk and hate and spread love guys..Valorant worst community in the world
Valorant worst community in the world
what will you do if you see LOL community kekw
Excalibur5 [#53]guys pls dont compare CS:GO to Valorant. It is an insult to CS:GO
Kids play Valorant
Legends play CS:GO
Go support GAMBOT chokerss
Easy_for_MWZERA [#16]s1mple could never be as good as TenZ in val, cause vanguard would catch him pretty fast.
so you're saying s1mple in val will be as good as someone who's using cheaters? it's just explaining that s1mple would be better than tenz in val
thanatos111 [#56]The only person that can be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is faker in LoL, not fucking tenz
totally agree
deadSQUAD [#68]totally agree
but tenz is expensive american player so would probably be better than s1mple at valorant!!!
Excalibur5 [#53]guys pls dont compare CS:GO to Valorant. It is an insult to CS:GO
Kids play Valorant
Legends play CS:GO
when me and my friends play CS we either get hackers on our team or the other team. I guess they truly are legends.
deadSQUAD [#67]so you're saying s1mple in val will be as good as someone who's using cheaters? it's just explaining that s1mple would be better than tenz in val
No, I'm actually saying that he hacks and Vanguard would catch him, since CS anti-cheats are trash.
Neon74 [#25]how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious
So Brazil is like 1 person that everyone thinks the same and acts the same and the rest of the world is like another person who thinks different than Brazil? Very good statement, makes a lot of sense.
Puget [#69]I hate s1mple but even I can tell that you can't even compare these two, tenz is nowhere close to him. Nobody in Valorant is
why'd you hate simple?
i dont ex TL player so yeah
thanatos111 [#56]The only person that can be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is faker in LoL, not fucking tenz
The hardest agree, Faker and S1mple are players who you hear about without even playing the games they dominate in because of dominant they are.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#73]No, I'm actually saying that he hacks and Vanguard would catch him, since CS anti-cheats are trash.
s1mple hacking is that new religion in brazil?
fisherman [#76]were brazilians just kidding about leaf and chaos?
Stop putting every brazilian in one single box as if everyone in the country thinks the same. We are 200 milion people, not everyone acused Chaos, not everyone acuses s1mple.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#82]Stop putting every brazilian in one single box as if everyone in the country thinks the same. We are 200 milion people, not everyone acused Chaos, not everyone acuses s1mple.
LMAO tell me why no other country besides turkey has a reputation as shit as yours then
Easy_for_MWZERA [#82]Stop putting every brazilian in one single box as if everyone in the country thinks the same. We are 200 milion people, not everyone acused Chaos, not everyone acuses s1mple.
he never said 'every brazilian' , he meant brazilians watching csgo in general
If we want to draw comparisons between CS and Valorant Tenz is probably the Get_Right of Valorant. GTR played in the best team in the world back then and was the best player, but it was the early days of CS:GO, we did not know what is possible yet. And even still, there are players like cNed that could be better, if they had the right pieces around them.
S1mple on the other hand always played with really disfunctional teams that were really flawed, but still managed to perform like nobody else ever had. Even his current NaVi team still has a mediocre IGL for my money, even though they are Nr.1 in the world.
Having a bad team drags your potential down. People think that you can frag out a lot more, but in a bad team you will have to eco a lot more, will be forced in really disadvantages situations like retakes, and you get less support.
Here a analogy for you: Imagine TenZ and S1mple are NBA players.
While Tenz has players that are good at passing and needs to do his shots from there, s1mple literally has to dribble around 5 players that stand in his way and needs to make his shot.
S1mple probably is the single best FPS player of all time for my money.
paperdark [#34]Tenz has top aiming and reaction talents, and is still young, so it depends on how Tenz progresses to develop his potential. But it's not good enough for now.
BTW Tenz’s CSGO career has no reference value, CSGO is just a practice game early in his career and he didnt try too hard, who cares about a young player’s previous noob stage (except for CSGO fans LUL)? People knows which game has a better future. Although he is young and can continue to progress, it is not worth to waste time of his important stage in CSGO. This theory applies to all young players move to VALORANT from CSGO.
BTW I think Cned have a greate advantage in aspect of career XD
S1mple already proved himself in CS, and certainly would dominate in Valorant.
TenZ is already a failure in CS, and is yet to be seen as the GOAT of Valorant.
So,
S1mple: GOAT in CS, can be the GOAT of Valorant
TenZ: Failure in CS, can be the GOAT of Valorant
So, S1mple > TenZ.
fisherman [#83]LMAO tell me why no other country besides turkey has a reputation as shit as yours then
Because you are elitists 1st world country that will always diminish people from underdeveloped countries.
deadSQUAD [#81]s1mple hacking is that new religion in brazil?
Who else did u see from Brazil saying what I'm saying?
Easy_for_MWZERA [#87]Because you are elitists 1st world country that will always diminish people from underdeveloped countries.
5/8
fisherman [#89]5/8
But it's true isn't it? When middle east people migrate to northern EU countries or US they are treated like trash, but when an Italian or an english person migrates they are treated even better than other americans or europeans. Or am I wrong?
Sebsbg [#41]Nah s1mple did it against an established esport, where top teams dispute the title of the best teams in the world, give it time to the scene to evolve, Tenz is like Get_Right where he dominated in the early years.
yeah I'd say get_right would be a better comparison, if tenz still dominated in the scene in a year or two
Na1my [#85]If we want to draw comparisons between CS and Valorant Tenz is probably the Get_Right of Valorant. GTR played in the best team in the world back then and was the best player, but it was the early days of CS:GO, we did not know what is possible yet. And even still, there are players like cNed that could be better, if they had the right pieces around them.
S1mple on the other hand always played with really disfunctional teams that were really flawed, but still managed to perform like nobody else ever had. Even his current NaVi team still has a mediocre IGL for my money, even though they are Nr.1 in the world.
Having a bad team drags your potential down. People think that you can frag out a lot more, but in a bad team you will have to eco a lot more, will be forced in really disadvantages situations like retakes, and you get less support.
Here a analogy for you: Imagine TenZ and S1mple are NBA players.
While Tenz has players that are good at passing and needs to do his shots from there, s1mple literally has to dribble around 5 players that stand in his way and needs to make his shot.
S1mple probably is the single best FPS player of all time for my money.
Imo the only person than can ever be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is Faker
thanatos111 [#93]Imo the only person than can ever be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is Faker
Idk did have have a bad team and still managed to win something?
Na1my [#94]Idk did have have a bad team and still managed to win something?
No faker was just the best itw
The level in valorant is not even close to what we saw in top CSGO. When we had device, coldzera, s1mple, guardian, kennys, shox, fallen, olof... Its like people that were mediocre in CSGO are superstars in Valorant. Dapr is a great example of this... He wasnt even in the discussion of being a tier 1 player and in valorant he is a major winner...
I think it is only unfair to compare them, s1mple has proven himself in a tougher esports that have been existing for over 20 years already, tenz played a game that has an esports scene since this year.
In sum, s1mple > most of csgo top players > tenz
Easy_for_MWZERA [#88]Who else did u see from Brazil saying what I'm saying?
no one, just from you. that's why i asked you whether it's kinda new beliefs or what
deadSQUAD [#99]no one, just from you. that's why i asked you whether it's kinda new beliefs or what
No, it's not. Nobody thinks that here. It's only me. He always had a toxic personality, was banned for hacking twice, has the best stats the game has ever seen for years, all of the other best players have fallen off some point in their carrer, shox, cold, get_right, oloffmeister, NEO. He never has bad games and his aim shakes suspiciously after shots.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#62]We actually destroyed s1mple lots of times between 2015 and 2017. And people are generalizing, I don't call anyone else cheater, only s1mple. You guys are just too naive, banned twice for hacking, has the stats no other player in history had, never has a bad game.
never has a bad game? Except every time he made it to a major final and choked his ass off LOL
kapteN [#101]never has a bad game? Except every time he made it to a major final and choked his ass off LOL
Choked? Show me a match of him with less then 1.15 rating. Not winning doesn't mean he played bad. The guy only puts up 1.30+ rating that now you guys think 1.15 rating is a bad game, but for the majority of the players would be considered a great game.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#100]No, it's not. Nobody thinks that here. It's only me. He always had a toxic personality, was banned for hacking twice, has the best stats the game has ever seen for years, all of the other best players have fallen off some point in their carrer, shox, cold, get_right, oloffmeister, NEO. He never has bad games and his aim shakes suspiciously after shots.
just bcs someone so consistent on game doesnt mean he is cheating.
deadSQUAD [#104]just bcs someone so consistent on game doesnt mean he is cheating.
Ok. Tell me about another player that did something similar. Because in every single e-sport or acual sport if there's a player who is considered the best, there's always someone close enough to him to be compared. Messi, Ronaldo Pelé, TenZ, cNed, ScreaM, Asuna, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Roger Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, but CS there's no one near s1mple and the dude was already banned twice for cheating.
It's like being buffed and ripped af and destroying everybody in a sport, then failing the anti-doping exam twice, then getting back to the sport bigger than ever and more ripped than ever and destroy everyone even more and no one suspecting of anything. It's pure nayvety.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#103]Choked? Show me a match of him with less then 1.15 rating. Not winning doesn't mean he played bad. The guy only puts up 1.30+ rating that now you guys think 1.15 rating is a bad game, but for the majority of the players would be considered a great game.
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-vs-astralis-faceit-major-2018 major final in london
big choke
CrimsonPride [#6]S1mple is by far the GREATEST fps player to ever live. TenZ is the best player in the world in valorant right now but he is nowhere near what s1mple is in CSGO. it's not just skills , mechanics even the desire to win to be the best in the world , to always work to improve yourself s1mple is ahead of tenZ in every way. but if tenZ keeps winning like this for like 5/6 year then he'll be like s1mple i guess. unless people like s1mple , zywoo , niko and other t1 cs pro comes in valorant then i doubt tenZ can stay as #1 as he is right now. he'll still be easily top 5 or 10 tho
He is not the greatest he is just the best in current years, the only player who we can give the title of best cs player of all time is f0rest, f0rest in his prime is like s1mple before s1mple became s1mple like Zet was f0rest before f0rest became f0rest. idk why younger generation don't know just how insane f0rest was in 1.6 people say they weren't as skilled back then compare to now are you kidding, f0rest doesn't even put much time in as others lol not even half of it, and still so consistent, if he wanted to play in a top tier team he would, as for TenZ, TenZ is nowhere near their level.
ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
Fuck no S1mple is quite possibly the greatest player in all of esports EVER or atleast in th debate, tenz is in more of a Get_Right/ Coldzera place at the moment
most_mens_guy [#50]To be honest it's not even close. s1mple is one of the greatest fps players as for now.
Most likely if t1 orgs from CS with all the stuff will switch. It won't take more than 6-8 months to dominate the scene at least in EU region. It's much harder to be t1 team in CS than in Valorant right now. From what I know most of t1 players are playing like 8-12h a day so that's the reason why most of them never stream on twitch. The game became their job so all the free time they have they prefer to spend outside of the computer. Same with most of the e-sport disciplines with that much events and tournaments
Now or later the same will happen with Valorant
one of? No . He is the greatest
blinkedr159 [#97]The level in valorant is not even close to what we saw in top CSGO. When we had device, coldzera, s1mple, guardian, kennys, shox, fallen, olof... Its like people that were mediocre in CSGO are superstars in Valorant. Dapr is a great example of this... He wasnt even in the discussion of being a tier 1 player and in valorant he is a major winner...
I think it is only unfair to compare them, s1mple has proven himself in a tougher esports that have been existing for over 20 years already, tenz played a game that has an esports scene since this year.
In sum, s1mple > most of csgo top players > tenz
HAVE*
IznoGOUD [#108]He is not the greatest he is just the best in current years, the only player who we can give the title of best cs player of all time is f0rest, f0rest in his prime is like s1mple before s1mple became s1mple like Zet was f0rest before f0rest became f0rest. idk why younger generation don't know just how insane f0rest was in 1.6 people say they weren't as skilled back then compare to now are you kidding, f0rest doesn't even put much time in as others lol not even half of it, and still so consistent, if he wanted to play in a top tier team he would, as for TenZ, TenZ is nowhere near their level.
you clearly dont watch cs
LMAO
ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
I'll tell you some facts about s1mple, and let you judge s1mple vs TenZ yourself.
Facts about s1mple:
1) 4 times Top-1/Top-2 player in the world, IN A ROW (World Record)
2) 8 MVPs in 1 year (World Record)
3) 20 MVPs in total (World Record)
4) 17 Trophies
5) 1 Major + 1 Major MVP
6) 1 Grand Slam
7) 2 times Esports PC Player of the year
8) 1 time Esports Player of the year
9) Legendary CSGO Graffiti
10) Highest Rating in a Major, in all of CSGO history.
11) Highest Rated Player in all of Tier-1 CSGO history.
12) Highest Rated Player in "Big Events", in all of CSGO history.
13) Highest Rated Player in Tier-1 LAN Events, in all of CSGO History.
14) 2nd Highest Rated Player across MAJORS, in all of CSGO history.
15) Tons of statistical world records (too many to list, so just putting a few notable ones here):
• First player in CSGO history to win an MVP/EVP award in literally every event attended in the year, with green stats (+5% above average) in every single stat component/category, in every event.
• Most Aces at a big event in CSGO history.
• Most clutches at a big event in CSGO history.
• In Tier-1 CSGO: Highest Annual Big events rating in CSGO history, Highest playoffs rating in CSGO history, highest annual Impact Rating in CSGO history, Highest annual Damage per round in CSGO history, highest annual LAN Rating in CSGO history.
• Nearly 100 tournaments (almost 6 years in a row) without any negative-rated/below-average event (World Record).
• 1.30+ Annual Rating for 3 years in Tier-1. Nobody else has done it even 2 times. And just 1 other guy has done it 1 time.
Source - HLTV
s1mple is the ONLY player in CSGO history, who has achieved literally everything that can possibly be achieved in CSGO. My Conclusion - GOAT OF CSGO
Now, you compare that to TenZ. And let me know what you think xD :)
DDot [#7]Even though I believe TenZ is the best Val player ATM by quite a margin I don't think there's any player I've seen do the things s1mple has done on such a consistent basis but TenZ is still young and could definitely reach that level.
he isnt the best at val though
Excalibur5 [#53]guys pls dont compare CS:GO to Valorant. It is an insult to CS:GO
Kids play Valorant
Legends play CS:GO
Kids who cant aim in cs play val
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#84]he never said 'every brazilian' , he meant brazilians watching csgo in general
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ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
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ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
well s1mple is in his prime right now and is dominating cs. He won 3 events back to back including the first major since covid started.
most_mens_guy [#50]To be honest it's not even close. s1mple is one of the greatest fps players as for now.
Most likely if t1 orgs from CS with all the stuff will switch. It won't take more than 6-8 months to dominate the scene at least in EU region. It's much harder to be t1 team in CS than in Valorant right now. From what I know most of t1 players are playing like 8-12h a day so that's the reason why most of them never stream on twitch. The game became their job so all the free time they have they prefer to spend outside of the computer. Same with most of the e-sport disciplines with that much events and tournaments
Now or later the same will happen with Valorant
s1mple maybe the best CSGO player in the world but not the best in fps overall, put him in COD and he'll get shit on, put him in valorant and he'll only make it a little far but still gets shit on, he may have the aim to back him up, but aim will only get you so far, but i do believe that s1mple has the knowledge to come far in these games, but for now, to people who say hes the best fps players in the world, rephrase it to "Best CSGO player" instead of making him one of the best in a genre thats vast and wide
looklook [#123]lol imagine comparing tenz to s1mple
tenz just lost sentinels two biggest tourneys with his split gameplay
s1mple doesnt lose navi any maps
S1mple loses
Faceit London Major 2018
ELEAGUE Boston Major 2018
PGL Major Krakow Major 2017
whilst in his prime
Tenz
Masters Berlin
Valorant Champions
S1mple choked more majors with his team than most teams in the CS scene 2nd to NA
TenZ is still new same with valorant, so you can compare these two in terms of loss, both were needed the most and they choked in big matches against the best teams in the world (Astralis for CS and Envy for Valo, also adding KRU due to brazilian esports being goated)
ciro [#130]Both washed now kkkkkk
im sorry, washed? Valo is new so there'll be chances for tenz to get better and win, s1mple dominated for the past year and a half, both are goats in their respective games, they aint washed kiddo
Easy_for_MWZERA [#87]Because you are elitists 1st world country that will always diminish people from underdeveloped countries.
lol
electr1cCSGO [#132]im sorry, washed? Valo is new so there'll be chances for tenz to get better and win, s1mple dominated for the past year and a half, both are goats in their respective games, they aint washed kiddo
How the f is tenz the goat? How? Cned is obviously better. In terms of stats. In terms of achievements. Also acend as a team is much more promising than the entirety of the NA scene. It will only get worse for tenz btw. He is a very flawed player especially when you do more than one eye test to judge him.
electr1cCSGO [#132]im sorry, washed? Valo is new so there'll be chances for tenz to get better and win, s1mple dominated for the past year and a half, both are goats in their respective games, they aint washed kiddo
im joking chill
electr1cCSGO [#129]s1mple maybe the best CSGO player in the world but not the best in fps overall, put him in COD and he'll get shit on, put him in valorant and he'll only make it a little far but still gets shit on, he may have the aim to back him up, but aim will only get you so far, but i do believe that s1mple has the knowledge to come far in these games, but for now, to people who say hes the best fps players in the world, rephrase it to "Best CSGO player" instead of making him one of the best in a genre thats vast and wide
there are no players in fps games who are dominating the scene for such a long time so you obviously can call s1mple the best fps player. that's not only about the aim it's all about the mentality, hard work and being passionate about what you do. but i have another question. how tf did you find this thread and this message after 4 months? :D
CrimsonPride [#6]S1mple is by far the GREATEST fps player to ever live. TenZ is the best player in the world in valorant right now but he is nowhere near what s1mple is in CSGO. it's not just skills , mechanics even the desire to win to be the best in the world , to always work to improve yourself s1mple is ahead of tenZ in every way. but if tenZ keeps winning like this for like 5/6 year then he'll be like s1mple i guess. unless people like s1mple , zywoo , niko and other t1 cs pro comes in valorant then i doubt tenZ can stay as #1 as he is right now. he'll still be easily top 5 or 10 tho
tenz isnt even number 1, cned is
Neon74 [#25]how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious
Did you really got caught in the bait tho or are u just trolling?
TenZ and s1mple are both highly skilled players in their respective games, with TenZ being a top player in Valorant and s1mple being a top player in CS:GO. TenZ valorant settings
Comparing the two players is difficult since they play different games, but both are known for their exceptional aiming abilities and game sense.
TenZ is considered one of the best players in the North American Valorant scene, and he is known for his impressive mechanical skill, especially his aim and movement. He has consistently been a top performer in tournaments and is highly respected by his peers.
S1mple, on the other hand, is widely regarded as one of the best CS:GO players of all time. He has won numerous awards and accolades for his exceptional skills, including the title of the best player in the world in 2018, 2019, and 2020. He is known for his incredible aim, game sense, and clutch performances.
Both players have different playstyles and strengths, but they are both incredibly skilled in their respective games. It's difficult to compare the two directly, as they play different games with different mechanics, but they are both highly respected and admired by fans and players alike.
ChrisGG [#4]but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?
s1mple owns that fraud
ESPORTSLOAD [#144]TenZ and s1mple are both highly skilled players in their respective games, with TenZ being a top player in Valorant and s1mple being a top player in CS:GO. TenZ valorant settings
Comparing the two players is difficult since they play different games, but both are known for their exceptional aiming abilities and game sense.
TenZ is considered one of the best players in the North American Valorant scene, and he is known for his impressive mechanical skill, especially his aim and movement. He has consistently been a top performer in tournaments and is highly respected by his peers.
S1mple, on the other hand, is widely regarded as one of the best CS:GO players of all time. He has won numerous awards and accolades for his exceptional skills, including the title of the best player in the world in 2018, 2019, and 2020. He is known for his incredible aim, game sense, and clutch performances.
Both players have different playstyles and strengths, but they are both incredibly skilled in their respective games. It's difficult to compare the two directly, as they play different games with different mechanics, but they are both highly respected and admired by fans and players alike.
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ESPORTSLOAD [#144]TenZ and s1mple are both highly skilled players in their respective games, with TenZ being a top player in Valorant and s1mple being a top player in CS:GO. TenZ valorant settings
Comparing the two players is difficult since they play different games, but both are known for their exceptional aiming abilities and game sense.
TenZ is considered one of the best players in the North American Valorant scene, and he is known for his impressive mechanical skill, especially his aim and movement. He has consistently been a top performer in tournaments and is highly respected by his peers.
S1mple, on the other hand, is widely regarded as one of the best CS:GO players of all time. He has won numerous awards and accolades for his exceptional skills, including the title of the best player in the world in 2018, 2019, and 2020. He is known for his incredible aim, game sense, and clutch performances.
Both players have different playstyles and strengths, but they are both incredibly skilled in their respective games. It's difficult to compare the two directly, as they play different games with different mechanics, but they are both highly respected and admired by fans and players alike.
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