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you literally told him that he should "attempt to dismantle the systems"....? suggesting that it's an action that an invidual (he) can carry out. 1 line in and you already contradict what you said ?XD
nah that's just your intentionally unfavorable misinterpretation of my words whatever though.
i don't think he ever said that activism is "limited" to making vlr posts, perhaps that is all he does but so what? as long as he is making some consequential positive change, where is the issue?
He isn't making any change hes whining on vlr. This does not push the needle even a fraction of a micro meter.
i never said he was "stopping", but increasing the amount of people who can be wary of racist influencers clearly has a positive impact on them
"prevent those people from creating pipelines through which to influence their younger fans" https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/prevent
Get a thesaurus. You misunderstood my point regardless.
what makes someone "susceptible" to racism? it's exposure to it. decreasing their exposure thereby means they will be less likely to be racist. pretty basic stuff man.
Overly simplistic reduction of a complex topic and my point to try and make your point more credible. If keznit doesn't exist those who you say are "radicalized" by him would still be racist. Are you gonna stop being disingenuous?
liberal also doesn't mean left wing lmao, political liberalism is an ideology founded by John Locke who supported slavery and prescribed property as a "natural right". being socially liberal can be selective towards certain groups, it doesn't make you automatically left wing.
yah no shit. I forgot to reply when i said right wing i mean to say alt right. regardless classical Liberalism and "liberal" dont exactly line up in terms of ideology nowadays (you can thank america for that) hence why i didnt capitalize the word. Right and left will always be relative terms regardless and are less useful than the actual beliefs espoused by those who are being discussed. Regardless this is just another distraction since you have no actual discussion on my words just disingenuous misinterpretations to attempt to skew the discussion.
This is why i dont fuck with talking politics online anymore. You write an incredibly detailed and clear sentence and fuckers like you will just say something completely different and act like its what you said. Good luck in life hope you grow out of this phase.
okay then, rephrase your words, how should he be attempting to dismantle the systems? what else did you mean than an individual? it's not a misinterpretation if you don't actually correct yourself.
"incredibly detailed" LMAO your entire paragraph was yapping. you provided barely any logical or empirical points, and instead just said cynically that everything that i claimed was untrue without giving sufficient explanation as to why. this current point which you made actually did address some of what i said. also, you say this after replying to half my points? lol.
tldr for your paragraph: people gonna be racist regardless of this post because they are already racist
i ask you, "what makes them racist?", you don't even give a response. if this post didn't exist, yes quite evidently racist people watching him would be racist still lol. thx for the tautology, but not my point. i'm drawing a distinction with those who are susceptible to racism - people like me aged 14, actually. i knew racism was bad, but if i didn't know people were racist, then i would buy into what they had to say. i used to say the n-word in class and things like that. my personal story aside - spreading awareness about such a figure of the community undoubtedly punishes the subject and makes at least the littlest amount of positive change by influencing whoever reads this article. the fact that you're denying this is bizarre to me.
he's not wining on vlr, as i said, he's spreading awareness. i wouldn't know about this on keznit if i hadn't read the thread, so i can say that he has at least helped me.
yes, prevent people from creating pipelines through which to worsen racism. that doesn't mean stopping racism altogether. if people know someone has done racist things in the past, but their fanbase don''t know about them, then i would argue that's a pipeline through which the fanbase can be radicalised. pretty basic stuff man.
as for the liberal point, you seemed to be suggesting that he wasn't radical enough, making him a liberal, or that there wasn't enough 'praxis' in what he was doing, despite the clear epistemic value of making this post which you are conveniently ignoring.
as for your strange critique of my point about being socially liberal. you will find that there are socially liberal feminists who don't believe in liberation of trans people and (less often) vice-versa.