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Champions Tour North America Stage 3: Challengers 2

Open Qualifier: Quarterfinals

Saturday, July 24th

6:00 PM EDT

Patch 3.01

DarkZero Esports

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Bo3

TSM

[1794]

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	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	12 14 -2	15 11 +4	8 16 -8	12 7 +5	14 8 +6
Harmon DZ	6 7 -1	6 13 -7	8 12 -4	5 11 -6	8 8 +0
Ange DZ	10 10 +0	12 12 +0	7 8 -1	7 7 +0	9 9 +0
ScrewFace DZ	12 4 +8	8 12 -4	13 7 +6	8 7 +1	7 20 -13
KOLER DZ	7 7 +0	10 14 -4	10 12 -2	7 9 -2	7 12 -5

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	1 3 -2	1 1 +0	2 1 +1	2 0 +2	4 3 +1
Harmon DZ		1 0 +1	1 3 -2	0 2 -2	0 1 -1
Ange DZ	1 0 +1	0 1 -1	0 1 -1	0 1 -1	0 1 -1
ScrewFace DZ	5 2 +3	2 1 +1	2 1 +1	1 1 +0	1 3 -2
KOLER DZ	5 4 +1	4 2 +2	1 0 +1	0 2 -2	1 2 -1

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ					0 2 -2
Harmon DZ					0 6 -6
Ange DZ					0 4 -4
ScrewFace DZ	8 0 +8	3 0 +3	6 0 +6	4 0 +4	1 14 -13
KOLER DZ					0 10 -10

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
KOLER DZ	6		2				39	5	0
Ange DZ	5	4			1	1	41	13	2
LenX DZ	10	3	2	1			51	2	1
ScrewFace DZ	8	3			1		52	0	3
Harmon DZ	4	1		2			42	11	1
WARDELL TSM	12	1	1		1		53	1	1
hazed TSM	4	4					50	9	2
Subroza TSM	10	4	3				53	4	2
bang TSM	10	5					45	9	2
LeviathanAG TSM	8	2			1		55	5	3

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	3 7 -4	9 4 +5	3 2 +1	7 3 +4	7 3 +4
Harmon DZ	4 2 +2	2 7 -5	6 3 +3	3 3 +0	3 1 +2
Ange DZ	2 3 -1	4 6 -2	4 1 +3	3 2 +1	5 3 +2
ScrewFace DZ	6 0 +6	3 4 -1	3 4 -1	3 4 -1	4 6 -2
KOLER DZ	2 5 -3	1 3 -2	2 4 -2	0 5 -5	1 4 -3

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	1 0 +1	1 1 +0	1 0 +1	2 0 +2	1 1 +0
Harmon DZ			1 0 +1	0 1 -1
Ange DZ
ScrewFace DZ	3 0 +3	1 0 +1		1 0 +1	1 0 +1
KOLER DZ	1 3 -2	1 1 +0		0 2 -2

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ
Harmon DZ					0 1 -1
Ange DZ					0 2 -2
ScrewFace DZ	3 0 +3		1 0 +1	1 0 +1	0 5 -5
KOLER DZ					0 3 -3

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
KOLER DZ	1 Round 7 Subroza hazed					21	1	0
Ange DZ	1 Round 24 WARDELL bang	2 Round 1 LeviathanAG bang Subroza Round 13 LeviathanAG WARDELL Subroza			1 Round 1 LeviathanAG bang Subroza	34	3	1
LenX DZ	5 Round 10 Subroza bang Round 12 hazed LeviathanAG Round 14 hazed LeviathanAG Round 15 Subroza WARDELL Round 20 bang WARDELL	3 Round 9 Subroza LeviathanAG WARDELL LenX Round 11 WARDELL Subroza LeviathanAG Round 17 Subroza LeviathanAG WARDELL		1 Round 15 WARDELL		64	0	1
ScrewFace DZ	3 Round 4 hazed bang Round 10 WARDELL LeviathanAG Round 14 Subroza WARDELL					61	0	2
Harmon DZ	2 Round 12 bang WARDELL Round 19 bang Subroza	1 Round 8 Subroza WARDELL hazed		1 Round 11 hazed		55	5	1
WARDELL TSM	4 Round 12 Ange ScrewFace Round 13 LenX KOLER Round 18 Ange ScrewFace Round 20 ScrewFace KOLER					48	0	0
hazed TSM	2 Round 10 KOLER LenX Round 23 KOLER Ange	2 Round 6 Harmon Ange LenX Round 19 Ange Harmon LenX				61	4	1
Subroza TSM	5 Round 8 LenX ScrewFace Round 11 ScrewFace Ange Round 16 KOLER Ange Round 23 ScrewFace Harmon Round 24 Harmon LenX	2 Round 2 Ange KOLER Harmon Round 3 Harmon Ange LenX	1 Round 5 KOLER Harmon Ange ScrewFace			66	2	1
bang TSM	2 Round 21 ScrewFace KOLER Round 22 Harmon Ange	1 Round 18 KOLER LenX Harmon				45	2	0
LeviathanAG TSM	2 Round 9 Harmon ScrewFace Round 20 Ange Harmon	1 Round 4 LenX Ange KOLER				58	3	0

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	3 6 -3	5 3 +2	2 7 -5	2 2 +0	5 2 +3
Harmon DZ	1 3 -2	3 1 +2	2 7 -5	0 5 -5	2 4 -2
Ange DZ	6 2 +4	5 3 +2	3 5 -2	3 2 +1	3 4 -1
ScrewFace DZ	4 2 +2	3 5 -2	6 1 +5	1 2 -1	1 7 -6
KOLER DZ	2 1 +1	3 6 -3	5 4 +1	6 1 +5	3 3 +0

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	0 2 -2		1 1 +0		2 1 +1
Harmon DZ		1 0 +1	0 3 -3	0 1 -1
Ange DZ	1 0 +1		0 1 -1	0 1 -1	0 1 -1
ScrewFace DZ	1 1 +0		1 1 +0	0 1 -1	0 1 -1
KOLER DZ	1 0 +1		1 0 +1		1 1 +0

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ					0 1 -1
Harmon DZ					0 2 -2
Ange DZ					0 1 -1
ScrewFace DZ	3 0 +3	3 0 +3	3 0 +3	1 0 +1	0 4 -4
KOLER DZ					0 2 -2

	2K	3K	4K	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
KOLER DZ	4 Round 4 hazed WARDELL Round 6 Subroza bang Round 20 hazed LeviathanAG Round 24 LeviathanAG Subroza		1 Round 18 WARDELL Subroza bang LeviathanAG		57	3	0
Ange DZ	4 Round 10 WARDELL LeviathanAG Round 12 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 13 hazed bang Round 21 hazed hazed	2 Round 3 LeviathanAG hazed Subroza Round 22 bang hazed Subroza		1 Round 19 hazed Subroza	50	0	0
LenX DZ	2 Round 13 Subroza WARDELL Round 19 WARDELL LeviathanAG		1 Round 16 WARDELL hazed LeviathanAG Subroza		40	2	0
ScrewFace DZ	3 Round 8 hazed Subroza Round 21 Subroza LeviathanAG Round 25 hazed Subroza	1 Round 15 hazed WARDELL bang		1 Round 15 WARDELL bang	47	0	0
Harmon DZ	1 Round 9 Subroza bang				28	5	0
WARDELL TSM	4 Round 1 Harmon Ange Round 2 KOLER Ange Round 25 LenX ScrewFace Round 26 ScrewFace Harmon		1 Round 23 LenX ScrewFace KOLER Harmon		47	1	1
hazed TSM	2 Round 19 ScrewFace LenX hazed Round 20 LenX Harmon	1 Round 11 LenX Harmon Ange			40	4	0
Subroza TSM	3 Round 9 ScrewFace KOLER Round 14 Ange ScrewFace Round 22 ScrewFace LenX		1 Round 4 LenX ScrewFace KOLER Ange		36	2	0
bang TSM	2 Round 14 Harmon LenX Round 26 LenX Ange	4 Round 7 Harmon LenX KOLER Round 15 Ange KOLER Harmon Round 17 ScrewFace Ange LenX Round 25 Harmon KOLER Ange			46	1	0
LeviathanAG TSM	2 Round 5 Ange LenX Round 13 LenX Harmon			1 Round 13 Harmon LenX	62	1	1

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	6 1 +5	1 4 -3	3 7 -4	3 2 +1	2 3 -1
Harmon DZ	1 2 -1	1 5 -4	0 2 -2	2 3 -1	3 3 +0
Ange DZ	2 5 -3	3 3 +0	0 2 -2	1 3 -2	1 2 -1
ScrewFace DZ	2 2 +0	2 3 -1	4 2 +2	4 1 +3	2 7 -5
KOLER DZ	3 1 +2	6 5 +1	3 4 -1	1 3 -2	3 5 -2

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ	0 1 -1				1 1 +0
Harmon DZ					0 1 -1
Ange DZ		0 1 -1
ScrewFace DZ	1 1 +0	1 1 +0	1 0 +1		0 2 -2
KOLER DZ	3 1 +2	3 1 +2			0 1 -1

	hazed TSM	Subroza TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	WARDELL TSM
LenX DZ					0 1 -1
Harmon DZ					0 3 -3
Ange DZ					0 1 -1
ScrewFace DZ	2 0 +2		2 0 +2	2 0 +2	1 5 -4
KOLER DZ					0 5 -5

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
KOLER DZ	1 Round 3 Subroza bang		1 Round 21 Subroza bang LeviathanAG WARDELL KOLER			40	1	0
Ange DZ						39	10	1
LenX DZ	3 Round 3 WARDELL hazed Round 6 bang LeviathanAG Round 8 hazed Subroza		1 Round 16 LeviathanAG hazed bang WARDELL			50	0	0
ScrewFace DZ	2 Round 6 WARDELL hazed Round 8 bang LeviathanAG	2 Round 12 LeviathanAG Subroza bang Round 18 Subroza bang WARDELL				48	0	1
Harmon DZ	1 Round 19 WARDELL Subroza			1 Round 12 WARDELL		43	1	0
WARDELL TSM	4 Round 5 LenX Harmon Round 9 ScrewFace KOLER Round 12 KOLER ScrewFace Round 18 KOLER LenX	1 Round 10 KOLER ScrewFace Harmon			1 Round 21 KOLER ScrewFace	63	0	0
hazed TSM		1 Round 20 KOLER Ange ScrewFace				48	1	1
Subroza TSM	2 Round 9 Harmon ScrewFace Round 13 Ange KOLER	2 Round 2 KOLER Harmon LenX Round 14 ScrewFace Harmon LenX	1 Round 17 Harmon KOLER ScrewFace Ange			57	0	1
bang TSM	6 Round 1 LenX Harmon Round 2 ScrewFace Ange Round 5 KOLER ScrewFace Round 9 LenX Ange Round 12 LenX LenX Round 15 KOLER Harmon					44	6	2
LeviathanAG TSM	4 Round 8 KOLER Ange Round 11 KOLER Ange Round 13 Harmon ScrewFace Round 20 LenX Harmon	1 Round 21 Harmon LenX Ange				45	1	2

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kurama3x

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TSM 2-0

Aris

-3

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TSM 2-0

Swiftmal

-10

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ABX 2-0 I was wrong DZ 2-0

HackNaija

-8

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Squirtle Squad 2-0

TSMFTXFAN123

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TSM 2-0 DZ

Hunt

-4

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TSM 2-0 TBD
How is it that TSM faced ABX before DZ or Knights?

FilthyAnimal

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Quick and fast 2-0 for TSM

alum

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TSM have the easiest bracket if they manage to fuck this up im speechless

Zaynio

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TSM 2-0

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Aris

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TSM 2-0 13-5 AND 13-7

#11

CoastalFox

-1

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Lets go TSM

#12

Asphyxia

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DZ 2-1

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CoastalFox

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How do i get the TSM logo next to my name

#14

Aris

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CoastalFox [#13]

How do i get the TSM logo next to my name

go to settings

#15

CoastalFox

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Aris [#14]

go to settings

thank you

#16

Aris

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CoastalFox [#15]

thank you

np bro

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gweees

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And I thought T1 had it easy

#18

ChupappiWardell

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Tsm vs deez nuts 2-0 13-0 top frag Wardell

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SENBobstar

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kurama3x [#1]

TSM 2-0

TSM throw

#20

N0TT0B1AS

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DZ 2-1 TSM

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MontyPython75

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gonna be interesting, DZ are great at upsetting. Screw vs Wardell is gonna be fun

#22

EU_quiet

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Whoever wins this goes to Main quals... should be interesting

#23

pewpew

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alum [#8]

TSM have the easiest bracket if they manage to fuck this up im speechless

T1 has the easiest bracket. Any team in the whole bracket would have a hard time playing against AndBox.

#24

pewpew

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gweees [#17]

And I thought T1 had it easy

T1 for sure has it easy lmao. TSM had to beat AndBox to face DZ. They already passed the hard team. The only hard team T1 played against is Renegades lmao. I am not sure if I should even say Renegades is hard to play against.

#25

pewpew

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MontyPython75 [#21]

gonna be interesting, DZ are great at upsetting. Screw vs Wardell is gonna be fun

Nah, not sure about the entire team, but Wardell is beating the shit out of Screw. Even yay had a hard time playing against Wardell.

#26

Neon74

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TSM 2 - 1 DarkZero Esports

13 - 9
7 - 13
14 - 12

#27

ChupappiWardell

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You guys don’t fucking learn lol never put anything on the line against tsm

#28

Aris

-1

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ChupappiWardell [#27]

You guys don’t fucking learn lol never put anything on the line against tsm

ChupappiWardell u the best man ur a real TSM fan all the haters crying rn

#29

ChupappiWardell

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Aris [#28]

ChupappiWardell u the best man ur a real TSM fan all the haters crying rn

Thank you Aris much love

#30

pika_63

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pewpew [#23]

T1 has the easiest bracket. Any team in the whole bracket would have a hard time playing against AndBox.

agreed

#31

dreski

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SENBobstar [#19]

TSM throw

not surprised it’s coming from a sentinels fan

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blicey

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TSM sux but 2-0 TSM

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Netero

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DZ can win if Wardell plays tarkov tonight, that's pretty much their only chance.

#34

Zoxlr

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SENBobstar [#19]

TSM throw

Of course a sen fan lmao

#35

hiyo

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DZ win if:
Wardell is shut down properly
TSM don't play together and revert to ranked match status
DZ play together and don't play comp in officials

#36

bannaer

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Netero [#33]

DZ can win if Wardell plays tarkov tonight, that's pretty much their only chance.

Master chef suppermecy

#37

Asphyxia

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hiyo [#35]

DZ win if:
Wardell is shut down properly
TSM don't play together and revert to ranked match status
DZ play together and don't play comp in officials

I don't even think they need to shut down Wardell. I think they need to shut down leviathan honestly and make sure that Hazed is IGL diffed. Wardell can only do so much. I think if Andersin just pops off though. DZ 2-0 lmao.

#38

Zoxlr

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And your still wrong

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Zoxlr

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Swiftmal [#3]

ABX 2-0 I was wrong DZ 2-0

Tsm 2-0 *

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Zoxlr

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gweees [#17]

And I thought T1 had it easy

T1 has it way easier

#41

Zoxlr

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blicey [#32]

TSM sux but 2-0 TSM

Gen g sux

#42

ihsazal

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cant really predict anything for TSM as they are the most unpredictable team but rooting for Subroza to win

#43

blicey

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Zoxlr [#41]

Gen g sux

lmao they waiting for everyone to catch up while TSM isn't even top 15 in NA, actually shit team

#44

Blazieboy

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TSM 2-1

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SerPneu

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EZ FOR YASSINE TAOFREAK

#46

M4trix

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TSM looking strong NGL

#47

Excaliburn

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Tsm 2-1, probably gonna throw a few rounds that may cost them a map, but should be the better team

#48

Retaliative

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Feels good to see TSM up again

#49

Retaliative

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SENBobstar [#19]

TSM throw

A typical sentinel fan.

#50

zet1wnl

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TSM choke incoming, TSM 1-2

#51

gweees

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pewpew [#24]

T1 for sure has it easy lmao. TSM had to beat AndBox to face DZ. They already passed the hard team. The only hard team T1 played against is Renegades lmao. I am not sure if I should even say Renegades is hard to play against.

Im talking about this match compared to T1 vs BBG not the whole bracket

#52

Frost_

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NGL, Harmon got this in the bag

#53

vern

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blicey [#43]

lmao they waiting for everyone to catch up while TSM isn't even top 15 in NA, actually shit team

imagine losing to a Not even top 15 team every time :)

#54

Karlfrommathclass

-2

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Kooky Koalas 2-1 ☺️

#55

vern

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this man knows shit we dont...

#56

Altaccount

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Lol

#57

ChupappiWardell

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Netero [#33]

DZ can win if Wardell plays tarkov tonight, that's pretty much their only chance.

Wardell hasn’t played tarkov in months

#58

thanatos11

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2-1 TSM

Map 2 and 3 go OT

Map1-TSM
Map2-DZ
Map3-TSM

#59

ChupappiWardell

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Asphyxia [#37]

I don't even think they need to shut down Wardell. I think they need to shut down leviathan honestly and make sure that Hazed is IGL diffed. Wardell can only do so much. I think if Andersin just pops off though. DZ 2-0 lmao.

Some people never learn

#60

zenv

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Team Solo Mid 2 - 0 DZ

#61

SusanVangelder

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TSM 2-0 DarkZero Esports
13-7
13-2

#62

Fire737

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DZ 2-1 tsm

#63

idk

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ez for DN

#64

Demise

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even though i aint a big fan of TSM i still want them to win i want them to compete against sen,envy,xset..etc..etc.. in the playoffs

#65

number_1_bjor_fan

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Hunt [#6]

TSM 2-0 TBD
How is it that TSM faced ABX before DZ or Knights?

because TSM has a shit seed

#66

Fab

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i belive in BANg

#67

EsportUpdate

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Ez for Andersin

#68

Faku

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SENBobstar [#19]

TSM throw

Typical sen fan that put sen in his name lmfao

#69

Aris

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2-0 TSM wardell MVP ez clap

#70

ChupappiWardell

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Aris [#69]

2-0 TSM wardell MVP ez clap

Fr these guys think deez nuts esports have a chance when they got destroyed by nrg

#71

Aris

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ChupappiWardell [#70]

Fr these guys think deez nuts esports have a chance when they got destroyed by nrg

true kekw

#72

Zoxlr

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EsportUpdate [#67]

Ez for Andersin

who

#73

Zoxlr

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blicey [#43]

lmao they waiting for everyone to catch up while TSM isn't even top 15 in NA, actually shit team

a shit team that shit on gen g last time they played lmao L

#74

Zoxlr

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vern [#53]

imagine losing to a Not even top 15 team every time :)

fr gen g always gets shit on when they play tsm

#75

Zoxlr

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idk [#63]

ez for DN

dz lmao beat nrg before thinking of beating tsm

#76

blicey

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vern [#53]

imagine losing to a Not even top 15 team every time :)

imagine being a fan to a shit team that cant qual and has the worst money eaters NA

#77

Aris

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blicey [#76]

imagine being a fan to a shit team that cant qual and has the worst money eaters NA

bro beat us and talk man u cringelord GEN.G LUL

#78

blicey

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Aris [#77]

bro beat us and talk man u cringelord GEN.G LUL

ur lucky u had an easy quarterfinal to qual or u wouldnt even come up to play us, but who knows TSM is known for choking

#79

Aris

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blicey [#78]

ur lucky u had an easy quarterfinal to qual or u wouldnt even come up to play us, but who knows TSM is known for choking

an easy quarterfinal........

#80

blicey

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Aris [#79]

an easy quarterfinal........

ez for any real t1 team, but i guess TSM isn't that so

#81

greeny_au

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TSM fans PepePains

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ToastByToast

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Hunt [#6]

TSM 2-0 TBD
How is it that TSM faced ABX before DZ or Knights?

TSM didn't show up the whole year so they got a less favorable seed. it makes sense, why would you be rewarded for playing bad?

#83

ChupappiWardell

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greeny_au [#81]

TSM fans PepePains

Aussie pepepains

#84

PP4ND4

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blicey [#80]

ez for any real t1 team, but i guess TSM isn't that so

lmao u mad geng can't even beat TSM lmao get shit on every time

#85

Xupra

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TSM FTX FTW

#86

kneedl3s

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Xupra [#85]

TSM FTX FTW

TSM COPIUM

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alum

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TSM CHAIN?

#88

pewpew

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kneedl3s [#86]

TSM COPIUM

watch 100T not qualify for Berlin even with 3 available spots.

#89

drabr420

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LETS GO DZ

#90

drabr420

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Zoxlr [#75]

dz lmao beat nrg before thinking of beating tsm

why you replying on every post of someone supporting DZ. TSM COPIUM

#91

ChupappiWardell

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drabr420 [#90]

why you replying on every post of someone supporting DZ. TSM COPIUM

It’s not copium when we win AGAIN

#92

Tsrjas

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ToastByToast [#82]

TSM didn't show up the whole year so they got a less favorable seed. it makes sense, why would you be rewarded for playing bad?

Actually I think it would make more sense for the best teams to have shit seed so they really have to prove they're the best + giving the less good teams a better chance to get far.

#93

Asphyxia

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Asphyxia [#12]

DZ 2-1

If yes I'm changing my flair to DZ to join Hiyo in the clearly superior fanbase.

#94

Breezy01

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EZ 2-0 for TSM

#95

blicey

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PP4ND4 [#84]

lmao u mad geng can't even beat TSM lmao get shit on every time

yeah cause we never play them cause they never advance cause they are shit

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ToastByToast

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Tsrjas [#92]

Actually I think it would make more sense for the best teams to have shit seed so they really have to prove they're the best + giving the less good teams a better chance to get far.

why would you give better seeds to people who don't deserve them? the teams that have good seeds have already "proven" themselves which is exactly why they have that seed. i wouldn't give Squirtle Squad a top 5 seed because they struggle to make it out of round of 32. why do they deserve a better seed than NV who consistently makes top 4 placements? i would even argue that giving some t2 teams better seeds wouldn't do shit for them because of how unpredictable the t2 scene is. and you look at teams like Rise and KCP who got brutal seeds and still made it into closed. giving pity seeding is one of the worst things that riot could do for this game.

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ArrowAmnesia

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Tsrjas [#92]

Actually I think it would make more sense for the best teams to have shit seed so they really have to prove they're the best + giving the less good teams a better chance to get far.

If all the good teams had bad seeds and all the decent teams had good seeds it would be the same thing. Sen, 100T, Envy, TSM, FaZe, Abx, XSET, etc. would all still play no name teams. And if you mean to put them up against each other early in the qualifiers then you would have tier 2 teams where they shouldn't be and only a few actual good teams in the main events which is bad for NA because this tournament circuit decides who represents the region in Berlin. Do you follow any sports or competitive events? It works the same way.

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ToastByToast

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ArrowAmnesia [#97]

If all the good teams had bad seeds and all the decent teams had good seeds it would be the same thing. Sen, 100T, Envy, TSM, FaZe, Abx, XSET, etc. would all still play no name teams. And if you mean to put them up against each other early in the qualifiers then you would have tier 2 teams where they shouldn't be and only a few actual good teams in the main events which is bad for NA because this tournament circuit decides who represents the region in Berlin. Do you follow any sports or competitive events? It works the same way.

exactly my thoughts

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ChupappiWardell

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PISTOL THROW

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Tharun

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blicey [#78]

ur lucky u had an easy quarterfinal to qual or u wouldnt even come up to play us, but who knows TSM is known for choking

TSM is known for choking? Aren't GenG the ones who are known for throwing the massive leads they get? I think it was against FaZe where they lost a 10-2 lead.

#101

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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ChupappiWardell [#99]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PISTOL THROW

u should be tsm's coach with this energy

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blicey

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Tharun [#100]

TSM is known for choking? Aren't GenG the ones who are known for throwing the massive leads they get? I think it was against FaZe where they lost a 10-2 lead.

lmao xset is know for choking cause they are actual trash

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ArrowAmnesia

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pewpew [#24]

T1 for sure has it easy lmao. TSM had to beat AndBox to face DZ. They already passed the hard team. The only hard team T1 played against is Renegades lmao. I am not sure if I should even say Renegades is hard to play against.

Renegades is probably the most decorated Tier 2 team, winning 6 of the 9 NSG summer tourneys that they have entered, beating the likes of Soniqs, Ghost, BBG, and absolutely dominating the scene. They haven't been able to get themselves into VCT main events yet, but it's only a matter of time tbh, and they are never going to be an easy opponent.

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ChupappiWardell

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Slow start for Wardell

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EsportUpdate

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Zoxlr [#72]

who

The guy who TSM should have signed 4 months ago but they were too dumb

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EsportUpdate

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Andersin is top 5 team worthy. Consistent as hell.

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Tsrjas

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Don't throw this tsm

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Tsrjas

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My gosh it's gonna be DZ 2-1 TSM I can feel it. Frick.

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M4trix

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Tsrjas [#108]

My gosh it's gonna be DZ 2-1 TSM I can feel it. Frick.

why not 2-0

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HaSanity

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koler <3

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Tsrjas

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M4trix [#109]

why not 2-0

Ascent. TSM is good on ascent.

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NithProYT_TSMLOSE

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TSM IS LOSING AGAINST A NO NAME TEAM KEKW EVEN WITH THEIR 50M FACILITY KEKEKKEKEKEKEKE TSM 0-2

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ChupappiWardell

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Fuck….

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Tsrjas

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COMEBACK TIME

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M4trix

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Tsrjas [#111]

Ascent. TSM is good on ascent.

2-13 vs noble

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leleuu

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ChupappiWardell [#113]

Fuck….

Willa suck my balls fucking moron

#117

Rush112

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NithProYT_TSMLOSE [#112]

TSM IS LOSING AGAINST A NO NAME TEAM KEKW EVEN WITH THEIR 50M FACILITY KEKEKKEKEKEKEKE TSM 0-2

imagine having tsmlose in your name XDDDDDD

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mAko

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M4trix [#115]

2-13 vs noble

yeah the guy that did that to them is now on their team,,,

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Acount123

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koler...

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blicey

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Zoxlr [#73]

a shit team that shit on gen g last time they played lmao L

tsm shit for losing a map

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Tsrjas

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Tsrjas [#114]

COMEBACK TIME

NOOOOO SO CLOSE WTF ASTRA WALL OP

#122

snippsville

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SENBobstar [#19]

TSM throw

tsm fans mad that we spitting facts

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blicey

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PP4ND4 [#84]

lmao u mad geng can't even beat TSM lmao get shit on every time

TSM IS SO FUCKING ASS LMAO

#124

ChupappiWardell

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My day is fucking ruined

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EsportUpdate

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Ez for andersin. Tsm signs players without even scouting

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Sheharwa

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snippsville [#122]

tsm fans mad that we spitting facts

welp...CoX YEP

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blicey

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vern [#53]

imagine losing to a Not even top 15 team every time :)

TSM IS SO FUCKING TRASH

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Flamephoenix11

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koler didn't get a kill for an entire half tsm lost a 4v5 kek

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ChupappiWardell

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leleuu [#116]

Willa suck my balls fucking moron

Ok Brazilian

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LouBag

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Andbox died for this.

Sadge

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FriedScrew

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Berlin without the s.

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TinglyPiano

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remember when ppl say TSM is now a top 3 team, right after they ditch Cutler and got Bang?? KEKW KEKW

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redlight

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Acount123 [#119]

koler...

i don't wanna see you showing fake sympathy after saying that shit

#134

blicey

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Aris [#77]

bro beat us and talk man u cringelord GEN.G LUL

TSM = LANDFILL

#135

QUOTE_IF_WARDELL_MISS

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Zoxlr [#39]

Tsm 2-0 *

Good call kapp

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redlight

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FriedScrew [#131]

Berlin without the s.

so berlin?

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M4trix

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I feel like TSM never watch their vods Ever
they keep making the same mistakes

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QUOTE_IF_WARDELL_MISS

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So many TSM fans yet they cant get a map OMEGALUL

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Sprouts

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TSM suck at this meta. They can't play or beat post-plant setups and Wardell's awp continues to find a lack of value against skye + astra + viper comps

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yana-banana

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ChupappiWardell [#124]

My day is fucking ruined

Hang on Chupappi, it's not over yet.

#141

EsportUpdate

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M4trix [#137]

I feel like TSM never watch their vods Ever
they keep making the same mistakes

Bro DZ is literally doing the same retake A strats from two days ago. TSM has to be the laziest and least prepared team in NA

#142

hiyo

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Acount123 [#119]

koler...

Shut the fuck up you don’t deserve to comment on this match or on this site

#143

Acount123

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redlight [#133]

i don't wanna see you showing fake sympathy after saying that shit

he must have been so tired he started randomly swinging angles and whiffing

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vern

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blicey [#127]

TSM IS SO FUCKING TRASH

who hurt my man? Definition of Rent-free :)

#145

TinglyPiano

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Bro DZ is literally doing the same retake A strats from two days ago. TSM has to be the laziest and least prepared team in NA

their coach is Chet, who failed to achieve anything with a NRG roster which is stacked

#146

unz

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Acount123 [#119]

koler...

Please delete your account after what you said earlier

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EsportUpdate

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TinglyPiano [#145]

their coach is Chet, who failed to achieve anything with a NRG roster which is stacked

I literally just watched two matches from DZ and I knew exactly where not to stand in the post plant. I don't even get paid for this, embarrassing from chet. Would have taken one hour of prep work, instead his team is dying from post plant Viper mollies.

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Psion

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For a few rounds there was TSM Hopium. now there is only TSM Copium. TSM fans come at me

#149

Acount123

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hiyo [#142]

Shut the fuck up you don’t deserve to comment on this match or on this site

bro take it easy... just trying to lighten the mood...

#150

M4trix

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I literally just watched two matches from DZ and I knew exactly where not to stand in the post plant. I don't even get paid for this, embarrassing from chet. Would have taken one hour of prep work, instead his team is dying from post plant Viper mollies.

two possibilities either TSM are too lazy to they think they are better than everyone
so they don't care abt their strats
#TSMWIN

#151

yans0n

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Flamephoenix11 [#128]

koler didn't get a kill for an entire half tsm lost a 4v5 kek

cut him some slack, he's been stressed all day and his mom's in the hospital...

#152

M4trix

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your Time to carry us home @wardell

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Tsrjas

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redlight [#136]

so berlin?

o berlin?

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Tsrjas

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M4trix [#152]

your Time to carry us home @wardell

I'd say it's subroza time

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Roguearz

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dreski [#31]

not surprised it’s coming from a sentinels fan

copium

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Mbappe

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Sprouts [#139]

TSM suck at this meta. They can't play or beat post-plant setups and Wardell's awp continues to find a lack of value against skye + astra + viper comps

Didnt he literally get 40+ OP kills yesterday

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Sprouts

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Mbappe [#156]

Didnt he literally get 40+ OP kills yesterday

Andbox didn't use a skye or an astra yesterday

#158

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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darkzero deserve to lose after that throw.. tf was that 0 awareness/comms?

Edit: How tf is TSM managing to throw even harder?

#159

ChupappiWardell

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I have heart disease from watching this

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vollizie

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That was quite horrible to watch. Wtf was that TSM retake?

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BenjiZ___

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Holy shit I hope TSM win The OT

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BenjiZ___

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GL BOTH OF EM

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Sprouts

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I don't understand how this is close
It's like watching an actually organized team play a pug team
I want TSM to win but this is painful to watch

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EU_quiet

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Sprouts [#163]

I don't understand how this is close
It's like watching an actually organized team play a pug team
I want TSM to win but this is painful to watch

TSM got a new player like 2 weeks ago... DZ have been together for 2 months...

#165

M4trix

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lesgoooo

#166

BenjiZ___

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LETS FUCKING GOOO TSM

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BenjiZ___

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Good job :D

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SignificantDot

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This would be a clear 2-0 for DZ if they didn’t have one person below double digit kills both games.

#169

Rush112

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SignificantDot [#168]

This would be a clear 2-0 for DZ if they didn’t have one person below double digit kills both games.

hindsight is fun huh?

#170

sampenn1

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SignificantDot [#168]

This would be a clear 2-0 for DZ if they didn’t have one person below double digit kills both games.

lol its not that simple.

#171

Sprouts

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EU_quiet [#164]

TSM got a new player like 2 weeks ago... DZ have been together for 2 months...

I'm not saying TSM are showing bad results, they obviously need to acclimate their new players. I'm just surprised how they can keep it so close with questionable/ a lack of strategies

#172

pewpew

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SignificantDot [#168]

This would be a clear 2-0 for DZ if they didn’t have one person below double digit kills both games.

According to your logic, TSM would clearly be World Champions if they didn't lose.

#173

pewpew

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Sprouts [#171]

I'm not saying TSM are showing bad results, they obviously need to acclimate their new players. I'm just surprised how they can keep it so close with questionable/ a lack of strategies

I don't know what the coach is doing because DZ's lineups on Haven are exactly the same from their previous matches. Coach Chet clearly didn't prepare well enough. It's either that or the players just don't adapt to it. They looked so lost on Haven which is why they couldn't make the comeback after DZ got 12 rounds.

#174

Shadow_cold

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TSM (Throw So Many) is a Tier 2.69420 professional team that has thrown multiple games across all VCT NA Stages. Their star players include Whiffdell and Superroza who are experts in bringing value to their team’s objective by throwing numerous rounds every game. It must be said, they are the hottest upcoming thrower-talent in NA.

#175

pewpew

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vollizie [#160]

That was quite horrible to watch. Wtf was that TSM retake?

They were not decisive. The reason why Hazed didn't put down his ult is because Kayo used his ult and silenced all of them. But on the other hand, they should've reacted and pushed immediately and not waste the ult last second.

#176

pewpew

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Mbappe [#156]

Didnt he literally get 40+ OP kills yesterday

Cuz AndBox is a pure aim team. DZ is a pure utility team. Jett is fully countered and thats why Wardell sucked ass on the first map..

#177

pewpew

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Levi played horribly on defense. The dude got 10 kills on offense and got 2 kills on defense. At least he had darts and shock darts to do chip damages.

#178

pewpew

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TSM is not gonna lose to DZ, they are gonna lose to line ups. Mark my words.

#179

BenjiZ___

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TSM takes this one

#180

Chaicow

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dreski [#31]

not surprised it’s coming from a sentinels fan

surprised there's still tsm fans

#181

BenjiZ___

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Come on TSM I know this is our win :D

#182

Netero

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Koler is walking into their crosshair lol

#183

pewpew

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I know I shouldn't use the word "if". But man, if Roza didn't throw 2 eco rounds, would've been 13-6 already.

#184

Rush112

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letsssd fuckinggg ggooooooooooooo

#185

M4trix

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We are coming BERLIIIN

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Rush112

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tsm tsm tsm tsmmmmmmmm!!!!

#187

mAko

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BERLIN LETS GOOOO

#188

NightMonkey

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lets gooooooooooooo bois

#189

k1ng1namo

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Sheeeeshhhhhhh big upset from TSM! Tier 3 team beats tier 2 team

#190

pewpew

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M4trix [#185]

We are coming BERLIIIN

ok buddy. Let's be real and no way they winning over NV/100T/SEN/XSET lol.

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Vitiare

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WE"RE GOING TO BERLIN

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isashoow

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WE'RE GOING TO BERLIN

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crunchers

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LETS FUCKING GOOOO BERLIN NEXT

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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pewpew [#190]

ok buddy. Let's be real and no way they winning over NV/100T/SEN/XSET lol.

they still have to go through the main event.. lets see if tsm are hungrier than those teams

https://www.vlr.gg/event/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2/main-event

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pewpew

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#194]

they still have to go through the main event.. lets see if tsm are hungrier than those teams

https://www.vlr.gg/event/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2/main-event

yeah, they still need to win against V1/GenG/Rise/Pioneers/C9/Faze/T1. Chances are even lower lol.

#196

pewpew

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k1ng1namo [#189]

Sheeeeshhhhhhh big upset from TSM! Tier 3 team beats tier 2 team

I don't mind haters but you are a hater and a 1head dumb ass lmao.

#197

pewpew

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blicey [#120]

tsm shit for losing a map

rent free

#198

FsuJordan

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Vitiare [#191]

WE"RE GOING TO BERLIN

Lol

#199

pewpew

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zet1wnl [#50]

TSM choke incoming, TSM 1-2

almost true. fans sweating hard

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pewpew

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Tsrjas [#154]

I'd say it's subroza time

Yes and No. We lost 2 eco rounds cuz Roza dived in without any help and died...Almost lost the round 12-8 because he decided to jump on heaven and die to Kayo leaving a 3-5, luckily Levi had 3 kills. But Roza was playing well nonetheless

#201

k1ng1namo

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I don't mind haters but you are a hater and a 1head dumb ass lmao.

Stating facts is 1head now? LMAO fucking weirdo

#202

pewpew

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k1ng1namo [#201]

Stating facts is 1head now? LMAO fucking weirdo

Nah you ain't stating facts, you spitting shit out of your mouth LMAO CRY BABY

#203

k1ng1namo

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pewpew [#202]

Nah you ain't stating facts, you spitting shit out of your mouth LMAO CRY BABY

Whatever floats your boat retard

#204

CherryCoke

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Wp TSM

#205

pewpew

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k1ng1namo [#203]

Whatever floats your boat retard

Of course, you do be spitting so much shit out of your mouth that it's making my boat float. LMAO RETARD

#206

k1ng1namo

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pewpew [#205]

Of course, you do be spitting so much shit out of your mouth that it's making my boat float. LMAO RETARD

You like mentioning shit maybe you like eating it lmao braindead

#207

pewpew

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k1ng1namo [#206]

You like mentioning shit maybe you like eating it lmao braindead

How can I see all the shit coming from you and not talk about it? I mean, you shitty ass won't stop shitting yourself.

#209

Zoxlr

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k1ng1namo [#189]

Sheeeeshhhhhhh big upset from TSM! Tier 3 team beats tier 2 team

stay mad kid ez win for tsm L

#210

Zoxlr

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TSM (Throw So Many) is a Tier 2.69420 professional team that has thrown multiple games across all VCT NA Stages. Their star players include Whiffdell and Superroza who are experts in bringing value to their team’s objective by throwing numerous rounds every game. It must be said, they are the hottest upcoming thrower-talent in NA.

cry some more

#211

Zoxlr

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snippsville [#122]

tsm fans mad that we spitting facts

what facts LMAOOO L

#212

Zoxlr

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Swiftmal [#3]

ABX 2-0 I was wrong DZ 2-0

you forgot to edit "i was wrong again and a dumbass"

#213

Zoxlr

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blicey [#76]

imagine being a fan to a shit team that cant qual and has the worst money eaters NA

beat tsm before talking until then Shhh gen g is garbage

#214

Zoxlr

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drabr420 [#90]

why you replying on every post of someone supporting DZ. TSM COPIUM

what copium LMAOO L

#215

Vardhan

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wp TSM

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Zoxlr

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kneedl3s [#86]

TSM COPIUM

100t FANS COPIUM LMAO

#217

Zoxlr

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NithProYT_TSMLOSE [#112]

TSM IS LOSING AGAINST A NO NAME TEAM KEKW EVEN WITH THEIR 50M FACILITY KEKEKKEKEKEKEKE TSM 0-2

who losing? sure as fuck not tsm LMAOO

#218

Zoxlr

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leleuu [#116]

Willa suck my balls fucking moron

shut brazilian

#219

Zoxlr

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EsportUpdate [#125]

Ez for andersin. Tsm signs players without even scouting

#220

Zoxlr

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Flamephoenix11 [#128]

koler didn't get a kill for an entire half tsm lost a 4v5 kek

who lost

#221

Zoxlr

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TinglyPiano [#132]

remember when ppl say TSM is now a top 3 team, right after they ditch Cutler and got Bang?? KEKW KEKW

and those people are right

#222

Zoxlr

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So many TSM fans yet they cant get a map OMEGALUL

yup they cant get 1 map they can get 2 OMEGALUL

#223

Zoxlr

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Psion [#148]

For a few rounds there was TSM Hopium. now there is only TSM Copium. TSM fans come at me

#224

CrimsonPrid3

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Asphyxia [#93]

If yes I'm changing my flair to DZ to join Hiyo in the clearly superior fanbase.

L again

#225

CrimsonPrid3

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blicey [#123]

TSM IS SO FUCKING ASS LMAO

Bruh take a chill pill. GenG is fkind dogshit. Tsm can lose to 100th team in NA but can still beat genG that's how bad genG is.

#226

beefcakermaker

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M4trix [#150]

two possibilities either TSM are too lazy to they think they are better than everyone
so they don't care abt their strats
#TSMWIN

I think they are rlly cocky, especially subroza. Dont get me wrong there good players and theres a chance that they get good agian(this game was sloppy af from them), but i think there just too cocky. In subrozas stream ik its a joke alot of the time but he kinda comes off as arrogant and anytime someone donos asking about tsm and shit hes like we dont have any problems. And then theres a clip somewhere of someone askign him if he thinks tsm have a identity problem(which they do) and other team problems he got defensive and arrogant.

#227

beefcakermaker

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pewpew [#200]

Yes and No. We lost 2 eco rounds cuz Roza dived in without any help and died...Almost lost the round 12-8 because he decided to jump on heaven and die to Kayo leaving a 3-5, luckily Levi had 3 kills. But Roza was playing well nonetheless

roza was playing well but I also think hes the weak part of tsm. Idt he understands what and if his team has problems and he idt his lurks are ever impactfull and from tsm videos his coms seem a little hectic

#228

beefcakermaker

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EU_quiet [#164]

TSM got a new player like 2 weeks ago... DZ have been together for 2 months...

your joking. That new player is part of the reason why this wasnt a clean 2-0, hes rlly good. he saved there asses mutliple times on icebox. and the other maps

#229

AllAimNoBrain

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blicey [#102]

lmao xset is know for choking cause they are actual trash

Wdym? Xset made it into top 4 in challengers stage 3 like a week ago and qualified to playoffs, not only that in challengers finals qualifiers to Iceland Xset made it into playoffs when Gen.G didn’t. And you’re saying that Xset is trash? Lmao

#230

AllAimNoBrain

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M4trix [#150]

two possibilities either TSM are too lazy to they think they are better than everyone
so they don't care abt their strats
#TSMWIN

Imo TSM is heavily reliant on Wardell’s skill, if Wardell plays bad then TSM have a tough game to win. Correct me if I am wrong.

#231

alum

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love this team

#232

snippsville

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Zoxlr [#211]

what facts LMAOOO L

idgaf what happens to tsm. my team alr made it. congrats on makin it to the closed qualifiers for what, ur first time?

#233

kapalrevolution

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just when i thought i saw everything, lord wortle playing sage!!! At last he didn't instalock jett for once!

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idkmate99

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EsportUpdate [#147]

I literally just watched two matches from DZ and I knew exactly where not to stand in the post plant. I don't even get paid for this, embarrassing from chet. Would have taken one hour of prep work, instead his team is dying from post plant Viper mollies.

I'm pretty sure Chet is a terrible coach. The dude has joined 2 top tier orgs with amazing lineups and not a single improvement has been seen. I feel like he hops from team to team for money while doing nothing.

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snippsville [#122]

tsm fans mad that we spitting facts

Nah im not tsm fan...but still its a wholesome team

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phenomen

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TSM fanboys are in full COPIUM mode right now

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kapalrevolution [#233]

just when i thought i saw everything, lord wortle playing sage!!! At last he didn't instalock jett for once!

hes been playing sage on ascent all tourney

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braXton

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Acount123 [#143]

he must have been so tired he started randomly swinging angles and whiffing

he tweeted that he got woken up at 8am last morning and had to call ambulance for his mom, and said that he hasnt gotten enough sleep. probably thats why

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Golem

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dreski [#31]

not surprised it’s coming from a sentinels fan

Yeah, I like SEN but damn our fans are toxic

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blicey

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Zoxlr [#213]

beat tsm before talking until then Shhh gen g is garbage

tsm is actually fucking dogshit almost lost to a t2 org

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blicey

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CrimsonPrid3 [#225]

Bruh take a chill pill. GenG is fkind dogshit. Tsm can lose to 100th team in NA but can still beat genG that's how bad genG is.

vision strikers is literall ass choked quals and tsm is fucking shit for almost losing to a t2 team

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blicey

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AllAimNoBrain [#229]

Wdym? Xset made it into top 4 in challengers stage 3 like a week ago and qualified to playoffs, not only that in challengers finals qualifiers to Iceland Xset made it into playoffs when Gen.G didn’t. And you’re saying that Xset is trash? Lmao

xset is fucking shit even shazam said they only do well in quals and choke in main events

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Yo what did TSM even qual for i dont see them in any bracket

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Crayzid

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Itsye06ontwitch [#243]

Yo what did TSM even qual for i dont see them in any bracket

main event

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Shady420

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Golem [#239]

Yeah, I like SEN but damn our fans are toxic

60% gotta be bandwagon kids the way they be talkin

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Shady420

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snippsville [#232]

idgaf what happens to tsm. my team alr made it. congrats on makin it to the closed qualifiers for what, ur first time?

Lol y u salty pussy

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Shady420

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ToastByToast [#96]

why would you give better seeds to people who don't deserve them? the teams that have good seeds have already "proven" themselves which is exactly why they have that seed. i wouldn't give Squirtle Squad a top 5 seed because they struggle to make it out of round of 32. why do they deserve a better seed than NV who consistently makes top 4 placements? i would even argue that giving some t2 teams better seeds wouldn't do shit for them because of how unpredictable the t2 scene is. and you look at teams like Rise and KCP who got brutal seeds and still made it into closed. giving pity seeding is one of the worst things that riot could do for this game.

The brackets wernt right , their seeding is more than knights and dz but anyway

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Shady420

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PP4ND4 [#84]

lmao u mad geng can't even beat TSM lmao get shit on every time

GenG isnt shit against TSM , always gets shit on by roza and wardell

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NithProYT_TSMLOSE [#112]

TSM IS LOSING AGAINST A NO NAME TEAM KEKW EVEN WITH THEIR 50M FACILITY KEKEKKEKEKEKEKE TSM 0-2

Hows ur YT doing ? Mayb suck roza's cock to get some subs

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Shady420

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phenomen [#236]

TSM fanboys are in full COPIUM mode right now

U braindead?

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Shady420

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SignificantDot [#168]

This would be a clear 2-0 for DZ if they didn’t have one person below double digit kills both games.

1head

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Shady420 [#246]

Lol y u salty pussy

yep, im salty lol. im so sad my team is the best in the world :(

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Chaicow [#180]

surprised there's still tsm fans

tsm got more fans than any other valorant team everyone else irelevant

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snippsville [#232]

idgaf what happens to tsm. my team alr made it. congrats on makin it to the closed qualifiers for what, ur first time?

"idgaf" dudes mad af LMAOOOO

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blicey [#95]

yeah cause we never play them cause they never advance cause they are shit

you do play them and lose everytime cus they are shit

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Zoxlr

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blicey [#241]

vision strikers is literall ass choked quals and tsm is fucking shit for almost losing to a t2 team

lmao even people from other regions know gen g is ass kekw

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snippsville

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Zoxlr [#254]

"idgaf" dudes mad af LMAOOOO

yep, im so mad my team is the best team in the world. ima cry to sleep so sad..

edit: reading ur post history, ur just a delusional toxic tsm fan. no wonder everyone hates tsm fans. have fun defending ur "awesome" t2 team :)

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M4trix

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yeah, they still need to win against V1/GenG/Rise/Pioneers/C9/Faze/T1. Chances are even lower lol.

Berlin is still very far 3 qualies left as I heard in shroud's stream the one in the link and two more
I was being sarcastic
but I hope they pop off and make it through

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Zoxlr [#256]

lmao even people from other regions know gen g is ass kekw

TSM IS FUCKING GARBAGE LMAO IMAGINE ALMSOT LOSING TO A T20 ORG

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blicey [#95]

yeah cause we never play them cause they never advance cause they are shit

u sure bro? check the last matches lmao

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PP4ND4

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Zoxlr

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snippsville [#257]

yep, im so mad my team is the best team in the world. ima cry to sleep so sad..

edit: reading ur post history, ur just a delusional toxic tsm fan. no wonder everyone hates tsm fans. have fun defending ur "awesome" t2 team :)

Sen overated outdated team no one cares L

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blicey

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PP4ND4 [#260]

u sure bro? check the last matches lmao

all i see is GenG wins

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snippsville

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Zoxlr [#262]

Sen overated outdated team no one cares L

YEP

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blicey [#263]

all i see is GenG wins

well then ur blind lmao. TSM beat them the last two times they played

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blicey [#242]

xset is fucking shit even shazam said they only do well in quals and choke in main events

With the old roster they didn't do well, and won qualifiers cuz envy was smoking crack with Victor on Skye. They beat the world champions SEN and 100 Thieves in qualifiers with their new roster and unlike gen.g actually qualified.