TSM 2-0
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
12
14
-2
|
15
11
+4
|
8
16
-8
|
12
7
+5
|
14
8
+6
|
Harmon
DZ
|
6
7
-1
|
6
13
-7
|
8
12
-4
|
5
11
-6
|
8
8
+0
|
Ange
DZ
|
10
10
+0
|
12
12
+0
|
7
8
-1
|
7
7
+0
|
9
9
+0
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
12
4
+8
|
8
12
-4
|
13
7
+6
|
8
7
+1
|
7
20
-13
|
KOLER
DZ
|
7
7
+0
|
10
14
-4
|
10
12
-2
|
7
9
-2
|
7
12
-5
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
1
3
-2
|
1
1
+0
|
2
1
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
4
3
+1
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
3
-2
|
0
2
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
Ange
DZ
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
5
2
+3
|
2
1
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
1
3
-2
|
KOLER
DZ
|
5
4
+1
|
4
2
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
0
2
-2
|
1
2
-1
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
6
-6
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
4
-4
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
8
0
+8
|
3
0
+3
|
6
0
+6
|
4
0
+4
|
1
14
-13
|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
10
-10
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
6
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
39
|
5
|
0
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
5
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
41
|
13
|
2
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
10
|
3
|
2
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
2
|
1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
|
8
|
3
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
52
|
0
|
3
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
4
|
1
|
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
42
|
11
|
1
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
12
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
53
|
1
|
1
|
hazed
TSM
|
|
4
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
9
|
2
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
10
|
4
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
4
|
2
|
bang
TSM
|
|
10
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
9
|
2
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
8
|
2
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
55
|
5
|
3
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
3
7
-4
|
9
4
+5
|
3
2
+1
|
7
3
+4
|
7
3
+4
|
Harmon
DZ
|
4
2
+2
|
2
7
-5
|
6
3
+3
|
3
3
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
Ange
DZ
|
2
3
-1
|
4
6
-2
|
4
1
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
5
3
+2
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
6
0
+6
|
3
4
-1
|
3
4
-1
|
3
4
-1
|
4
6
-2
|
KOLER
DZ
|
2
5
-3
|
1
3
-2
|
2
4
-2
|
0
5
-5
|
1
4
-3
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
KOLER
DZ
|
1
3
-2
|
1
1
+0
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
3
0
+3
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
0
5
-5
|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
3
-3
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
1
Round 7
Subroza
hazed
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
21
|
1
|
0
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
1
Round 24
WARDELL
bang
|
2
Round 1
LeviathanAG
bang
Subroza
Round 13
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 1
LeviathanAG
bang
Subroza
|
|
|
34
|
3
|
1
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
5
Round 10
Subroza
bang
Round 12
hazed
LeviathanAG
Round 14
hazed
LeviathanAG
Round 15
Subroza
WARDELL
Round 20
bang
WARDELL
|
3
Round 9
Subroza
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
LenX
Round 11
WARDELL
Subroza
LeviathanAG
Round 17
Subroza
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
|
|
|
1
Round 15
WARDELL
|
|
|
|
|
64
|
0
|
1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
|
3
Round 4
hazed
bang
Round 10
WARDELL
LeviathanAG
Round 14
Subroza
WARDELL
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
0
|
2
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
2
Round 12
bang
WARDELL
Round 19
bang
Subroza
|
1
Round 8
Subroza
WARDELL
hazed
|
|
|
1
Round 11
hazed
|
|
|
|
|
55
|
5
|
1
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
4
Round 12
Ange
ScrewFace
Round 13
LenX
KOLER
Round 18
Ange
ScrewFace
Round 20
ScrewFace
KOLER
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
48
|
0
|
0
|
hazed
TSM
|
|
2
Round 10
KOLER
LenX
Round 23
KOLER
Ange
|
2
Round 6
Harmon
Ange
LenX
Round 19
Ange
Harmon
LenX
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
4
|
1
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
5
Round 8
LenX
ScrewFace
Round 11
ScrewFace
Ange
Round 16
KOLER
Ange
Round 23
ScrewFace
Harmon
Round 24
Harmon
LenX
|
2
Round 2
Ange
KOLER
Harmon
Round 3
Harmon
Ange
LenX
|
1
Round 5
KOLER
Harmon
Ange
ScrewFace
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
66
|
2
|
1
|
bang
TSM
|
|
2
Round 21
ScrewFace
KOLER
Round 22
Harmon
Ange
|
1
Round 18
KOLER
LenX
Harmon
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
2
|
0
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
2
Round 9
Harmon
ScrewFace
Round 20
Ange
Harmon
|
1
Round 4
LenX
Ange
KOLER
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
58
|
3
|
0
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
3
6
-3
|
5
3
+2
|
2
7
-5
|
2
2
+0
|
5
2
+3
|
Harmon
DZ
|
1
3
-2
|
3
1
+2
|
2
7
-5
|
0
5
-5
|
2
4
-2
|
Ange
DZ
|
6
2
+4
|
5
3
+2
|
3
5
-2
|
3
2
+1
|
3
4
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
4
2
+2
|
3
5
-2
|
6
1
+5
|
1
2
-1
|
1
7
-6
|
KOLER
DZ
|
2
1
+1
|
3
6
-3
|
5
4
+1
|
6
1
+5
|
3
3
+0
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
0
2
-2
|
|
1
1
+0
|
|
2
1
+1
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
3
-3
|
0
1
-1
|
|
Ange
DZ
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
1
1
+0
|
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
KOLER
DZ
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
1
+0
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
3
0
+3
|
3
0
+3
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
0
4
-4
|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
2
-2
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
4
Round 4
hazed
WARDELL
Round 6
Subroza
bang
Round 20
hazed
LeviathanAG
Round 24
LeviathanAG
Subroza
|
|
1
Round 18
WARDELL
Subroza
bang
LeviathanAG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
3
|
0
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
4
Round 10
WARDELL
LeviathanAG
Round 12
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
Round 13
hazed
bang
Round 21
hazed
hazed
|
2
Round 3
LeviathanAG
hazed
Subroza
Round 22
bang
hazed
Subroza
|
|
|
|
1
Round 19
hazed
Subroza
|
|
|
|
50
|
0
|
0
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
2
Round 13
Subroza
WARDELL
Round 19
WARDELL
LeviathanAG
|
|
1
Round 16
WARDELL
hazed
LeviathanAG
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
2
|
0
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
|
3
Round 8
hazed
Subroza
Round 21
Subroza
LeviathanAG
Round 25
hazed
Subroza
|
1
Round 15
hazed
WARDELL
bang
|
|
|
|
1
Round 15
WARDELL
bang
|
|
|
|
47
|
0
|
0
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
1
Round 9
Subroza
bang
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
28
|
5
|
0
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
4
Round 1
Harmon
Ange
Round 2
KOLER
Ange
Round 25
LenX
ScrewFace
Round 26
ScrewFace
Harmon
|
|
1
Round 23
LenX
ScrewFace
KOLER
Harmon
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
1
|
1
|
hazed
TSM
|
|
2
Round 19
ScrewFace
LenX
hazed
Round 20
LenX
Harmon
|
1
Round 11
LenX
Harmon
Ange
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
4
|
0
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
3
Round 9
ScrewFace
KOLER
Round 14
Ange
ScrewFace
Round 22
ScrewFace
LenX
|
|
1
Round 4
LenX
ScrewFace
KOLER
Ange
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
36
|
2
|
0
|
bang
TSM
|
|
2
Round 14
Harmon
LenX
Round 26
LenX
Ange
|
4
Round 7
Harmon
LenX
KOLER
Round 15
Ange
KOLER
Harmon
Round 17
ScrewFace
Ange
LenX
Round 25
Harmon
KOLER
Ange
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
1
|
0
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
2
Round 5
Ange
LenX
Round 13
LenX
Harmon
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 13
Harmon
LenX
|
|
|
|
62
|
1
|
1
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
6
1
+5
|
1
4
-3
|
3
7
-4
|
3
2
+1
|
2
3
-1
|
Harmon
DZ
|
1
2
-1
|
1
5
-4
|
0
2
-2
|
2
3
-1
|
3
3
+0
|
Ange
DZ
|
2
5
-3
|
3
3
+0
|
0
2
-2
|
1
3
-2
|
1
2
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
2
2
+0
|
2
3
-1
|
4
2
+2
|
4
1
+3
|
2
7
-5
|
KOLER
DZ
|
3
1
+2
|
6
5
+1
|
3
4
-1
|
1
3
-2
|
3
5
-2
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
1
1
+0
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
1
1
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
2
-2
|
KOLER
DZ
|
3
1
+2
|
3
1
+2
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
hazed
TSM
|
Subroza
TSM
|
bang
TSM
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Harmon
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
3
-3
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
ScrewFace
DZ
|
2
0
+2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
1
5
-4
|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
0
5
-5
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
KOLER
DZ
|
|
1
Round 3
Subroza
bang
|
|
1
Round 21
Subroza
bang
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
KOLER
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
1
|
0
|
Ange
DZ
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
39
|
10
|
1
|
LenX
DZ
|
|
3
Round 3
WARDELL
hazed
Round 6
bang
LeviathanAG
Round 8
hazed
Subroza
|
|
1
Round 16
LeviathanAG
hazed
bang
WARDELL
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
0
|
0
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ScrewFace
DZ
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2
Round 6
WARDELL
hazed
Round 8
bang
LeviathanAG
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2
Round 12
LeviathanAG
Subroza
bang
Round 18
Subroza
bang
WARDELL
|
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|
|
|
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48
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0
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1
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Harmon
DZ
|
|
1
Round 19
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
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1
Round 12
WARDELL
|
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|
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43
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1
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0
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WARDELL
TSM
|
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4
Round 5
LenX
Harmon
Round 9
ScrewFace
KOLER
Round 12
KOLER
ScrewFace
Round 18
KOLER
LenX
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1
Round 10
KOLER
ScrewFace
Harmon
|
|
|
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1
Round 21
KOLER
ScrewFace
|
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|
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63
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0
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0
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hazed
TSM
|
|
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1
Round 20
KOLER
Ange
ScrewFace
|
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48
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1
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1
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
2
Round 9
Harmon
ScrewFace
Round 13
Ange
KOLER
|
2
Round 2
KOLER
Harmon
LenX
Round 14
ScrewFace
Harmon
LenX
|
1
Round 17
Harmon
KOLER
ScrewFace
Ange
|
|
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|
|
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57
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0
|
1
|
bang
TSM
|
|
6
Round 1
LenX
Harmon
Round 2
ScrewFace
Ange
Round 5
KOLER
ScrewFace
Round 9
LenX
Ange
Round 12
LenX
LenX
Round 15
KOLER
Harmon
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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44
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6
|
2
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
4
Round 8
KOLER
Ange
Round 11
KOLER
Ange
Round 13
Harmon
ScrewFace
Round 20
LenX
Harmon
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1
Round 21
Harmon
LenX
Ange
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45
|
1
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2
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why would you give better seeds to people who don't deserve them? the teams that have good seeds have already "proven" themselves which is exactly why they have that seed. i wouldn't give Squirtle Squad a top 5 seed because they struggle to make it out of round of 32. why do they deserve a better seed than NV who consistently makes top 4 placements? i would even argue that giving some t2 teams better seeds wouldn't do shit for them because of how unpredictable the t2 scene is. and you look at teams like Rise and KCP who got brutal seeds and still made it into closed. giving pity seeding is one of the worst things that riot could do for this game.
If all the good teams had bad seeds and all the decent teams had good seeds it would be the same thing. Sen, 100T, Envy, TSM, FaZe, Abx, XSET, etc. would all still play no name teams. And if you mean to put them up against each other early in the qualifiers then you would have tier 2 teams where they shouldn't be and only a few actual good teams in the main events which is bad for NA because this tournament circuit decides who represents the region in Berlin. Do you follow any sports or competitive events? It works the same way.
Renegades is probably the most decorated Tier 2 team, winning 6 of the 9 NSG summer tourneys that they have entered, beating the likes of Soniqs, Ghost, BBG, and absolutely dominating the scene. They haven't been able to get themselves into VCT main events yet, but it's only a matter of time tbh, and they are never going to be an easy opponent.
I think they are rlly cocky, especially subroza. Dont get me wrong there good players and theres a chance that they get good agian(this game was sloppy af from them), but i think there just too cocky. In subrozas stream ik its a joke alot of the time but he kinda comes off as arrogant and anytime someone donos asking about tsm and shit hes like we dont have any problems. And then theres a clip somewhere of someone askign him if he thinks tsm have a identity problem(which they do) and other team problems he got defensive and arrogant.
I don't know what the coach is doing because DZ's lineups on Haven are exactly the same from their previous matches. Coach Chet clearly didn't prepare well enough. It's either that or the players just don't adapt to it. They looked so lost on Haven which is why they couldn't make the comeback after DZ got 12 rounds.
TSM (Throw So Many) is a Tier 2.69420 professional team that has thrown multiple games across all VCT NA Stages. Their star players include Whiffdell and Superroza who are experts in bringing value to their team’s objective by throwing numerous rounds every game. It must be said, they are the hottest upcoming thrower-talent in NA.
they still have to go through the main event.. lets see if tsm are hungrier than those teams
https://www.vlr.gg/event/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2/main-event