~~FENNEL 3-2 SCARZ~~
FENNEL 3-2 JADEITE
JADEITE 3-2 SCARZ
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
0
|
4 (0)
|
1 (0)
|
5 (2)
|
10 (5)
|
SZ
|
2
|
2 (2)
|
0 (0)
|
5 (3)
|
13 (8)
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
1
0.3k
0.4k
|
2
9.2k
$$
4.3k
|
3
1.5k
$$$
$$
13.7k
|
4
8.5k
$$$
$$
5.7k
|
5
10.4k
$$
$$$
15.7k
|
6
4.0k
$$$
$$$
25.3k
|
7
13.8k
$$$
$$$
16.4k
|
8
13.2k
$$$
$$$
7.6k
|
9
7.1k
$$
$$$
8.0k
|
10
3.3k
$$
$$$
11.7k
|
11
9.7k
$$$
$$$
6.6k
|
12
3.2k
$$$
$$$
6.7k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
13
0.2k
0.5k
|
14
7.8k
$$
4.2k
|
15
1.8k
$$
$$$
14.3k
|
16
10.4k
$
$$$
23.7k
|
17
4.9k
$$$
$$$
21.8k
|
18
15.1k
$$
$$
13.6k
|
19
21.8k
$$$
$$$
5.4k
|
20
7.8k
$$$
$$$
14.8k
|
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
1
|
2 (1)
|
2 (1)
|
7 (2)
|
11 (5)
|
SZ
|
1
|
4 (2)
|
0 (0)
|
3 (1)
|
15 (10)
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
1
0.4k
0.3k
|
2
0.7k
$$
8.6k
|
3
13.1k
$$
$$$
0.7k
|
4
9.5k
$$$
$$
7.4k
|
5
22.0k
$$$
$$$
1.7k
|
6
10.8k
$$$
$$$
15.2k
|
7
6.1k
$$
$$$
25.1k
|
8
3.5k
$$
$$$
25.6k
|
9
1.3k
$$
$$$
22.6k
|
10
9.2k
$
$$$
22.9k
|
11
4.3k
$$$
$$$
30.3k
|
12
2.6k
$$$
$$$
17.1k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
13
0.4k
0.2k
|
14
8.3k
$
$$
0.5k
|
15
7.8k
$$$
7.7k
|
16
9.4k
$$
$$$
7.8k
|
17
2.4k
$$$
$$$
15.6k
|
18
10.8k
$$$
$$$
4.7k
|
19
5.9k
$$$
$$
5.9k
|
20
9.2k
$$
$$$
5.8k
|
21
3.5k
$$$
$$$
9.4k
|
22
13.8k
$$$
$$$
4.2k
|
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
1
|
4 (2)
|
0 (0)
|
3 (2)
|
12 (9)
|
SZ
|
1
|
2 (1)
|
1 (0)
|
8 (1)
|
8 (4)
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
1
0.5k
0.2k
|
2
8.1k
$$
4.3k
|
3
10.2k
$$$
$
8.5k
|
4
12.5k
$$$
$$$
0.9k
|
5
4.7k
$$$
$$
4.8k
|
6
8.6k
$$$
$$
7.9k
|
7
19.0k
$$$
$$$
2.1k
|
8
17.1k
$$$
$$
5.7k
|
9
16.8k
$$$
$$$
2.0k
|
10
16.4k
$$$
$$
5.4k
|
11
27.8k
$$$
$$
2.6k
|
12
33.0k
$$$
$$$
1.8k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
13
0.0k
0.3k
|
14
0.6k
$$
$$
0.4k
|
15
11.2k
$$
$$
0.3k
|
16
2.7k
$$$
$$$
2.9k
|
17
13.1k
$$$
4.2k
|
18
6.4k
$$$
$$$
11.5k
|
19
7.5k
$$
$$$
22.0k
|
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
0
|
4 (0)
|
0 (0)
|
8 (5)
|
14 (9)
|
SZ
|
2
|
2 (2)
|
3 (2)
|
6 (4)
|
15 (4)
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
1
0.3k
0.3k
|
2
8.2k
$$
4.2k
|
3
1.4k
$$
$$
11.4k
|
4
6.3k
$$
$$$
21.6k
|
5
3.2k
$$
$$$
20.5k
|
6
4.7k
$$
$$$
11.3k
|
7
14.0k
$$$
$$$
5.0k
|
8
5.6k
$$
$$$
13.6k
|
9
6.9k
$$
$$$
15.5k
|
10
14.4k
$$$
$$$
5.2k
|
11
3.8k
$$$
$$$
6.6k
|
12
4.1k
$$$
$$
1.4k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
13
0.3k
0.2k
|
14
7.2k
$$
4.7k
|
15
0.8k
$$$
$$
11.1k
|
16
7.4k
$$$
$$$
1.4k
|
17
7.3k
$$$
$
7.5k
|
18
9.0k
$$
$$$
10.2k
|
19
8.7k
$$$
$$$
1.8k
|
20
9.7k
$$$
$
7.8k
|
21
5.9k
$$
$$$
6.9k
|
22
5.8k
$$$
$
8.5k
|
23
10.0k
$$$
$$
2.7k
|
24
0.7k
$$$
$$$
10.9k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
25
0.9k
$$$
$$$
1.6k
|
26
1.2k
$$$
$$$
1.5k
|
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
1
|
3 (1)
|
0 (0)
|
9 (5)
|
10 (3)
|
SZ
|
1
|
3 (1)
|
2 (1)
|
3 (2)
|
14 (9)
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
1
0.1k
0.3k
|
2
5.0k
$$
7.5k
|
3
13.7k
$$$
$$$
0.9k
|
4
4.3k
$$
$$$
9.2k
|
5
5.2k
$$
$$$
8.8k
|
6
10.2k
$$$
$
10.0k
|
7
8.7k
$$
$$$
10.5k
|
8
5.7k
$$
$$$
19.8k
|
9
8.6k
$$$
$$$
8.1k
|
10
10.0k
$$$
$$
2.3k
|
11
9.9k
$$
$$$
9.2k
|
12
8.5k
$$$
$$$
4.8k
|
(BANK)
JDT
SZ
(BANK)
|
13
0.1k
0.2k
|
14
6.8k
$$
1.3k
|
15
0.8k
$$
$$
14.6k
|
16
9.9k
$$$
$$$
3.6k
|
17
3.4k
$$
$$$
4.2k
|
18
7.6k
$$
$$$
6.5k
|
19
1.3k
$$$
$$$
6.6k
|
20
9.7k
$$$
$
9.5k
|
21
12.5k
$$$
$$$
5.5k
|
22
3.5k
$$$
$$$
4.9k
|
Pistol Won | Eco (won) | $ (won) | $$ (won) | $$$ (won) | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
JDT
|
3
|
17 (4)
|
3 (1)
|
32 (16)
|
57 (31)
|
SZ
|
7
|
13 (8)
|
6 (3)
|
25 (11)
|
65 (35)
|
I wanted Jadeite to win, but oh well. What can we do
It is indeed very bad. Everyone admires ZETA for their full Japanese roster. Even if SCARZ were to win the Champions, what should we celebrate for? Should we celebrate that a Japan-based organization won? Where is the pride in that?
It is a great shame for all Japanese FPS players that Japan cannot produce 1% of the talent Russia produces. Japan is being used as a medium for Russian players to rise, but this is just not how it's supposed to be..
I miss ZETA vs NTH days
you dont want to support japanese org with 2 japanese players? You talk as if SCARZ is a 5 non-japanese player team. What if japanese player comes to an international tier1 team and wins champions you wont support him because his team is not fully japanese? kind of doesnt make sense. I don't understand all that hate for scarz. Like jadeite is not even full-japanese 2 korean players so you want to support them because they have 1 less import? FENNEL has foreign coach and 1 foreign player and syouta is chinese as far as I know so it makes 3 foreigners but 1 with japanese citizenship. Like there is not much of a difference.
But the guy commented where is pride in that. So where is pride in supporting korean players? Isn't Japan being used as a medium for Korean players to rise then? I don't see any logic in seeing korean players as japanese they are still foreign. It doesn't elevate japanese scene to have korean imports either.
IZU was carrying them through out the regular season tho. He consistently was above everyone else by a lot. I would say he outshined the japanese players. It just so happened that he didn't show up against scarz. And you can notice that majority of imports play duelists I would say that it makes a lot of impact on the score.
Point out where have I said or implied hate towards SCARZ.
Yes. I am reluctant to support a five player Japanese team where only two player are Japanese. The reason is because if those two players were to be replaced with two imports, it wouldn't matter.
Russian players are talented. And I am not so shameless to piggyback on their talent and claim that as a win for Japan.
If a Japanese player were to be good enough to play internationally on T1 team, I will still want a team from Japan with full Japanese roster to win. After spending countless days on a mine, a single diamond in a bag of coals is not a good find.
And it's not about the number of Japanese players, but it's more about the impact they have. Allen and Toraneco is barely standing out among the others. Yes, one less import does make it better. It would be better if there were one less, leaving only one import. No import would be the dream. What is your point again? Everyone wants that. There is a reason ZETA had a huge following even disregarding the crazy fangirls, ZETA was favoured because of the all Japanese roster.
I didn't mean that you are hating I just said in general because all the ones who leave hateful messages have the same points as you do. But I didn't say that your message in particular was hateful. Just wanted to give my five cents on this topic and I thought it would be best to reply to you because the theme was similar.
Allen and toraneco both showed what they are capable of in two series winning many important rounds and I would say that you cant just swap them for two complete bots or randoms and have the same results. They both are very important pieces in the team.
Having two korean imports is still not a win for japan. Every import that you mentioned is a key player in their team respectfully and if you switch them out it would matter and would matter a lot. You cant just swap IZU or syouta out of a roster and think that they would win. And sorry if my message came out as if it was agressive. It wasnt aimed to be like that. The main point I wanted to deliver is that scarz don't deserve the hate.