	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
iZu JDT	1.39 1.51 1.20	289 310 260	19 12 7	/ 16 9 7 /	3 3 0	+3 +3 0	70% 75% 63%	197 217 166	28% 25% 38%	4 3 1	3 2 1	+1 +1 0
muto JDT	0.91 1.21 0.47	171 216 106	11 9 2	/ 14 8 6 /	8 6 2	-3 +1 -4	75% 92% 50%	116 142 77	20% 18% 23%	1 1 0	3 2 1	-2 -1 -1
Akame JDT	0.79 0.85 0.71	194 230 141	13 9 4	/ 16 10 6 /	5 4 1	-3 -1 -2	60% 75% 38%	142 144 138	37% 38% 33%	1 0 1	0 0 0	+1 0 +1
Art JDT	0.62 0.30 1.12	162 80 287	9 3 6	/ 16 10 6 /	4 3 1	-7 -7 0	60% 58% 63%	104 54 180	9% 13% 8%	2 0 2	2 2 0	0 -2 +2
Brofeld JDT	0.53 0.61 0.40	100 119 74	7 5 2	/ 15 9 6 /	3 1 2	-8 -4 -4	50% 42% 63%	94 114 64	17% 19% 13%	0 0 0	4 2 2	-4 -2 -2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Kr1stal SZ	1.43 1.40 1.46	307 303 311	20 8 12	/ 14 5 9 /	7 1 6	+6 +3 +3	75% 63% 83%	199 196 201	27% 26% 28%	6 3 3	0 0 0	+6 +3 +3
Jemkin SZ	1.37 2.04 0.92	242 380 151	19 12 7	/ 11 4 7 /	0 0 0	+8 +8 0	80% 88% 75%	160 259 95	48% 48% 50%	4 1 3	3 1 2	+1 0 +1
TORANECO SZ	1.25 1.15 1.32	192 129 235	14 3 11	/ 10 3 7 /	12 10 2	+4 0 +4	80% 88% 75%	125 86 150	22% 27% 21%	1 0 1	0 0 0	+1 0 +1
Yoshiii SZ	1.04 1.46 0.76	188 187 189	14 6 8	/ 13 4 9 /	8 5 3	+1 +2 -1	60% 75% 50%	123 148 107	11% 21% 5%	0 0 0	3 1 2	-3 -1 -2
Allen SZ	0.85 0.43 1.13	149 80 196	10 2 8	/ 11 5 6 /	3 2 1	-1 -3 +2	80% 75% 83%	101 56 132	16% 0% 21%	1 0 1	2 2 0	-1 -2 +1

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Akame JDT	1.09 1.11 1.10	231 242 221	85 49 36	/ 79 46 33 /	41 22 19	+6 +3 +3	72% 76% 66%	156 155 156	23% 27% 19%	14 7 7	8 4 4	+6 +3 +3
Art JDT	0.92 1.15 1.03	206 196 226	76 39 37	/ 77 43 34 /	43 17 26	-1 -4 +3	72% 68% 78%	123 115 133	9% 10% 7%	8 3 5	7 5 2	+1 -2 +3
Brofeld JDT	1.14 0.80 0.98	182 217 144	74 49 25	/ 72 39 33 /	19 12 7	+2 +10 -8	63% 64% 62%	118 143 88	21% 20% 22%	7 4 3	9 6 3	-2 -2 0
iZu JDT	1.00 0.80 0.91	214 218 207	80 45 35	/ 88 44 44 /	13 9 4	-8 +1 -9	67% 68% 66%	137 137 136	24% 22% 27%	19 10 9	26 14 12	-7 -4 -3
muto JDT	0.88 0.78 0.84	161 147 180	56 27 29	/ 76 38 38 /	51 34 17	-20 -11 -9	77% 81% 72%	106 101 113	17% 17% 17%	5 2 3	7 4 3	-2 -2 0

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Jemkin SZ	1.37 1.44 1.41	293 262 326	115 49 66	/ 76 33 43 /	10 6 4	+39 +16 +23	74% 76% 73%	187 173 199	33% 29% 36%	21 5 16	16 7 9	+5 -2 +7
Kr1stal SZ	1.43 0.82 1.10	241 302 191	89 54 35	/ 78 38 40 /	34 18 16	+11 +16 -5	79% 80% 78%	158 199 124	24% 30% 18%	20 13 7	10 6 4	+10 +7 +3
TORANECO SZ	1.01 0.95 0.98	164 153 180	64 28 36	/ 69 31 38 /	53 27 26	-5 -3 -2	75% 80% 71%	112 103 119	19% 21% 18%	5 1 4	7 5 2	-2 -4 +2
Yoshiii SZ	0.93 0.78 0.85	178 184 169	71 34 37	/ 78 36 42 /	31 19 12	-7 -2 -5	66% 76% 58%	116 132 102	20% 22% 18%	3 1 2	11 4 7	-8 -3 -5
Allen SZ	0.69 0.83 0.77	137 115 153	52 21 31	/ 70 33 37 /	33 17 16	-18 -12 -6	74% 76% 73%	90 73 104	17% 16% 17%	7 3 4	8 5 3	-1 -2 +1

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Brofeld JDT	1.26 1.22 1.29	251 293 217	20 11 9	/ 15 8 7 /	1 1 0	+5 +3 +2	55% 60% 50%	154 192 123	18% 16% 19%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1
Art JDT	1.02 1.08 0.97	198 213 187	13 7 6	/ 17 7 10 /	14 3 11	-4 0 -4	73% 70% 75%	121 123 119	10% 17% 5%	3 1 2	0 0 0	+3 +1 +2
iZu JDT	0.90 0.74 1.03	198 164 227	16 6 10	/ 17 8 9 /	1 1 0	-1 -2 +1	64% 60% 67%	127 93 157	26% 30% 24%	4 2 2	5 2 3	-1 0 -1
muto JDT	0.75 0.63 0.85	154 119 184	12 5 7	/ 16 6 10 /	8 4 4	-4 -1 -3	77% 70% 83%	86 63 105	20% 18% 21%	1 1 0	1 0 1	0 +1 -1
Akame JDT	0.42 0.37 0.46	162 166 159	12 5 7	/ 20 10 10 /	2 0 2	-8 -5 -3	45% 50% 42%	103 96 109	8% 5% 11%	1 1 0	5 2 3	-4 -1 -3

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Kr1stal SZ	1.43 1.77 1.03	274 345 190	21 14 7	/ 14 8 6 /	9 5 4	+7 +6 +1	91% 92% 90%	184 236 121	24% 30% 15%	2 2 0	0 0 0	+2 +2 0
Jemkin SZ	1.28 0.99 1.64	313 242 398	23 10 13	/ 18 10 8 /	5 3 2	+5 0 +5	68% 67% 70%	203 157 259	38% 35% 40%	7 3 4	5 1 4	+2 +2 0
Yoshiii SZ	1.13 0.89 1.41	198 177 225	17 8 9	/ 14 8 6 /	12 5 7	+3 0 +3	64% 50% 80%	126 126 127	20% 23% 17%	0 0 0	1 1 0	-1 -1 0
Allen SZ	0.89 0.85 0.94	165 133 205	13 6 7	/ 14 7 7 /	5 2 3	-1 -1 0	73% 67% 80%	108 93 126	19% 22% 17%	3 2 1	2 2 0	+1 0 +1
TORANECO SZ	0.85 1.13 0.52	142 188 88	11 8 3	/ 13 8 5 /	10 7 3	-2 0 -2	77% 83% 70%	91 121 55	16% 14% 20%	0 0 0	2 1 1	-2 -1 -1

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Akame JDT	1.40 1.68 0.92	225 262 161	17 12 5	/ 8 5 3 /	7 4 3	+9 +7 +2	79% 83% 71%	133 161 83	18% 18% 18%	2 2 0	1 0 1	+1 +2 -1
Art JDT	1.40 1.59 1.07	226 283 129	15 12 3	/ 9 7 2 /	8 4 4	+6 +5 +1	89% 92% 86%	138 171 80	18% 19% 14%	2 2 0	1 1 0	+1 +1 0
Brofeld JDT	1.26 1.46 0.91	236 310 110	17 14 3	/ 10 8 2 /	4 4 0	+7 +6 +1	79% 83% 71%	131 167 71	23% 20% 40%	2 2 0	0 0 0	+2 +2 0
iZu JDT	0.96 1.09 0.73	223 208 250	16 10 6	/ 14 7 7 /	1 1 0	+2 +3 -1	79% 75% 86%	137 126 157	24% 19% 33%	4 2 2	3 2 1	+1 0 +1
muto JDT	0.51 0.60 0.36	110 86 152	5 2 3	/ 13 8 5 /	14 11 3	-8 -6 -2	79% 83% 71%	70 58 89	6% 5% 8%	2 0 2	2 1 1	0 -1 +1

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Jemkin SZ	1.47 1.72 1.32	302 260 328	21 8 13	/ 13 4 9 /	0 0 0	+8 +4 +4	68% 86% 58%	185 176 190	35% 24% 41%	2 0 2	1 1 0	+1 -1 +2
Allen SZ	0.71 0.79 0.66	132 123 139	8 3 5	/ 14 4 10 /	10 5 5	-6 -1 -5	74% 100% 58%	82 58 96	16% 20% 15%	0 0 0	2 0 2	-2 0 -2
TORANECO SZ	0.62 0.74 0.55	119 107 127	7 3 4	/ 14 4 10 /	4 1 3	-7 -1 -6	63% 71% 58%	85 69 95	14% 38% 9%	1 1 0	3 2 1	-2 -1 -1
Yoshiii SZ	0.59 1.19 0.23	150 238 99	10 5 5	/ 15 4 11 /	3 3 0	-5 +1 -6	53% 100% 25%	93 159 54	22% 20% 25%	2 1 1	4 0 4	-2 +1 -3
Kr1stal SZ	0.57 0.73 0.48	142 162 131	8 5 3	/ 14 6 8 /	2 2 0	-6 -1 -5	74% 100% 58%	108 114 104	22% 31% 18%	2 1 1	2 1 1	0 0 0

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Art JDT	1.33 1.07 1.58	288 280 297	27 13 14	/ 19 11 8 /	8 3 5	+8 +2 +6	73% 62% 85%	158 153 163	6% 5% 8%	1 0 1	1 0 1	0 0 0
Akame JDT	1.16 1.07 1.26	218 239 198	19 12 7	/ 17 10 7 /	14 9 5	+2 +2 0	85% 85% 85%	146 154 139	28% 28% 27%	5 2 3	1 1 0	+4 +1 +3
Brofeld JDT	1.12 1.28 0.95	210 223 198	20 11 9	/ 18 8 10 /	6 3 3	+2 +3 -1	73% 62% 85%	130 155 106	23% 24% 23%	3 1 2	2 1 1	+1 0 +1
muto JDT	0.82 0.81 0.82	154 148 161	12 5 7	/ 18 9 9 /	11 6 5	-6 -4 -2	77% 77% 77%	123 119 127	19% 23% 17%	0 0 0	1 1 0	-1 -1 0
iZu JDT	0.77 0.88 0.65	213 224 202	18 10 8	/ 24 11 13 /	5 2 3	-6 -1 -5	65% 62% 69%	136 139 133	25% 25% 26%	4 1 3	9 6 3	-5 -5 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Jemkin SZ	1.72 1.31 2.14	360 252 469	34 12 22	/ 18 8 10 /	2 1 1	+16 +4 +12	77% 69% 85%	217 166 268	28% 21% 33%	4 0 4	4 3 1	0 -3 +3
TORANECO SZ	1.18 0.98 1.37	208 173 245	20 8 12	/ 17 9 8 /	9 5 4	+3 -1 +4	77% 77% 77%	149 130 169	27% 29% 26%	2 0 2	1 1 0	+1 -1 +2
Kr1stal SZ	0.96 1.21 0.70	223 278 169	21 13 8	/ 21 11 10 /	6 4 2	0 +2 -2	73% 69% 77%	144 184 104	25% 29% 21%	6 4 2	5 4 1	+1 0 +1
Allen SZ	0.49 0.55 0.42	102 86 118	9 4 5	/ 20 9 11 /	9 5 4	-11 -5 -6	62% 69% 54%	72 62 81	18% 17% 18%	1 0 1	1 0 1	0 0 0
Yoshiii SZ	0.48 0.80 0.16	117 172 62	11 9 2	/ 20 9 11 /	3 1 2	-9 0 -9	65% 77% 54%	87 128 46	15% 21% 5%	0 0 0	1 1 0	-1 -1 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Akame JDT	1.71 1.35 2.15	358 298 430	24 11 13	/ 18 11 7 /	13 5 8	+6 0 +6	86% 83% 90%	251 209 303	26% 41% 15%	5 2 3	1 1 0	+4 +1 +3
muto JDT	1.15 1.13 1.19	216 163 279	16 6 10	/ 15 7 8 /	10 7 3	+1 -1 +2	77% 83% 70%	130 116 147	15% 16% 15%	1 0 1	0 0 0	+1 0 +1
Brofeld JDT	0.74 1.13 0.27	113 153 65	10 8 2	/ 14 6 8 /	5 3 2	-4 +2 -6	59% 75% 40%	76 94 54	23% 23% 22%	1 1 0	2 2 0	-1 -1 0
Art JDT	0.72 0.58 0.90	157 121 201	12 4 8	/ 16 8 8 /	9 4 5	-4 -4 0	68% 58% 80%	88 71 109	4% 2% 7%	0 0 0	3 2 1	-3 -2 -1
iZu JDT	0.61 0.75 0.43	146 174 115	11 7 4	/ 17 9 8 /	3 2 1	-6 -2 -4	59% 67% 50%	93 105 77	11% 8% 20%	3 2 1	6 2 4	-3 0 -3

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Jemkin SZ	1.14 1.15 1.14	247 206 282	18 7 11	/ 16 7 9 /	3 2 1	+2 0 +2	77% 80% 75%	162 133 186	27% 27% 27%	4 1 3	3 1 2	+1 0 +1
Kr1stal SZ	1.11 1.84 0.49	257 381 155	19 14 5	/ 15 8 7 /	10 6 4	+4 +6 -2	82% 80% 83%	157 235 92	22% 35% 6%	4 3 1	3 1 2	+1 +2 -1
Yoshiii SZ	1.05 0.53 1.48	235 170 290	19 6 13	/ 16 11 5 /	5 5 0	+3 -5 +8	86% 90% 83%	153 113 185	34% 22% 42%	1 0 1	2 1 1	-1 -1 0
Allen SZ	0.96 0.82 1.08	135 153 121	12 6 6	/ 11 8 3 /	6 3 3	+1 -2 +3	86% 80% 92%	91 90 91	17% 21% 13%	2 1 1	1 1 0	+1 0 +1
TORANECO SZ	0.92 0.96 0.88	161 135 183	12 6 6	/ 15 7 8 /	18 4 14	-3 -1 -2	77% 80% 75%	100 86 112	13% 10% 16%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1

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upper bracket winner didn't get two bans, again
why JP challengers don't do this?
stupid af

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LETS GOO 2 MORE MAPS

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jemkin pog

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SCARZWIN

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JDT first lan ever, SZ has the momentum winning yesterday in front of the crowd, literally zero advantage for winning upper

GG JDT
I guess we have to see a team with two russian and one Philippines carrying two Japanese win JP challengers.
such a shame

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Jemk1n is half Japanese / half Russian same as Suggest as Half Korean / half Russian.

Yoshiii too is half jpn / half ph

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jemkin is half japanese? that's probably not true

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yoshiii is 100% half, doesn't speak japanese though
agree with the rest

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jemkin is not half japanese

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No pick advantage for the upper bracket winner is a little bit too much. Why don't they give 2 bans for JDT as they did with Zeta in Split 2 last year?

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every other ascension league(MYSG, KR, PH, ID, and so on) has two bans for upper winner, it's only JP challengers
so stupid format

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fracture ascent split is winnable
3-2 win JDT

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nah its over
experience diff imo

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zero lan experience definitely hit hard, their aim first map looked so nervous

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yeah especially izu. he's missing easy shots he would 100% hit online

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it's his first ever Lan in his entire career, no wonder he's nervous
upper winner de-buff fr

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Japan is fucked if Scarz goes to Ascension.

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Dead region

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jp peaked at 131k viewers, other regions wish they could lol

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I am not talking about the crowd..

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what a shit show...

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This doesn't give me much hope for JP...
JDT please win

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jemkin drop 100

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aint no way 3 non jp win japanese region. would only bring shame that there is no talent in jp

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it doesnt help that they didnt get the 2 map bans upper finalists generally got completely wrecking their confidence as they started on maps they're uncomfortable on.

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they could have picked lotus(SCARZ perma ban, JDT 4-0 map)

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yeah they didnt help themselves either, scarz always ban lotus. Even the coach fumbled and now they're 1 map away from choking after an unbeatable season. If Im not wrong, split 1 was also similar way for CR with being unbeaten (not even a map loss) and choking in the final to FENNEL.

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scarz banned lotus because of the shitty format though
if JDT could've picked lotus for first map,this would be a different story

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Jadeite best scrim partner of the year lol

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Jadeite choking when it matters the most. they already showed they were better than SCARZ this does not bode well for JP ascension.

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finally they're hitting shots, if JDT win map 4, I think they'll take the final map too.

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i don't have a good feeling about JDT ascent
they are 7-1 this split, but their sage comp is probably getting anti-strat hard

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Reverse sweep no?

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Reverse sweep incoming?

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Having CR flashback, but thanks god their haven saved it

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Imagine timeout when ur team gaining momentum so the other team doesnt have to

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reverse sweep

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You can’t really give map adventage with other formats

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Am i seeing another PRX vs DRX here? Is JDT gonna do it?

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THE DREAM IS STILL ALIVE

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it's happening

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Lost to a fcking 1 trick odin

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7-10 1v4 and lose map KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK so bad

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I hope Scarz win it and calmly go to Bangkok

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Yeah win or lose they'll go to bangkok to lose their manhood lmao. 4-10, 1v4 choke, championship point wasted. Aint no way they win. 100% mental down.

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Let's see

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Did you watch it?)

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another 0-2 comeback

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banger

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my guy dropped 27 kills using only odin without moving his mouse xD peak valorant experience

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#SCARZWIN FADEZIS GOAT

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Jemkin on his way to pull a Something when SG choke in split 1

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Not the +37 +100 kills loss again

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phew~ they didnt lose this time

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https://clips.twitch.tv/SpineyFrigidHareWOOP-MzW04HXfMmRcuF2F

this play tho

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iZu LOL that whiffs LOL

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LET’S GO SCARZ

Deserved, holy Jemkin and Kristal
Fadezis gigachad too

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russians are awesome at fps games

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Anyone who speaks Russian!

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Wasn’t expecting Jemkin to be Asian is he half Japanese?

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I guess he is not, but it's better to ask him or his teammates

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Not half Japanese because he doesn’t count as regional. Could be half something else tho

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Lower bracket run buff

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jemkin is crazy, lets go scarz!

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yo this russians goes insane holy fuck, there is something & vici, now its kristal & jemkin

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krystal jemkin with 3 bots going to ascension pog

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I've been supporting them since bluebees days, feels so good to be fan

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Same here!
It's kinda sad zennakukin got mental problem but glad they came back strong and their chemistry is still really great despite of their various backgrounds.
Yeah it would be good to see young JP players dominate our league but I'm really proud of SZ. They can make it for sure.

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japan got carry by foreign everytime

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Japan is literally the best place for upcoming Korean/Russian (living in far east) talents to step up to tier 1 scene

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Japan league more like Russian league

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Thanks to all teams who give a chance Russian and Russian-speaking players to play there!

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Hopefully everything is fixed for next year and there is a Russian VCL instead

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I hope. But I think it won't be fixed. However some of the players would keep playing abroad and in other leagues (better contracts, get used to play with those teammates, etc)

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Yeah but at least it won’t be because they don’t have another choice

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Russian > korean

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LETS FUCKING GO SCARZ

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Sad for Japanese fans.

Soon we won’t see any Japanese in t1

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i get what you mean but everyone besides kr1stal is either part or fully japanese so its not that bad

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I wanted Jadeite to win, but oh well. What can we do

It is indeed very bad. Everyone admires ZETA for their full Japanese roster. Even if SCARZ were to win the Champions, what should we celebrate for? Should we celebrate that a Japan-based organization won? Where is the pride in that?

It is a great shame for all Japanese FPS players that Japan cannot produce 1% of the talent Russia produces. Japan is being used as a medium for Russian players to rise, but this is just not how it's supposed to be..

I miss ZETA vs NTH days

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you dont want to support japanese org with 2 japanese players? You talk as if SCARZ is a 5 non-japanese player team. What if japanese player comes to an international tier1 team and wins champions you wont support him because his team is not fully japanese? kind of doesnt make sense. I don't understand all that hate for scarz. Like jadeite is not even full-japanese 2 korean players so you want to support them because they have 1 less import? FENNEL has foreign coach and 1 foreign player and syouta is chinese as far as I know so it makes 3 foreigners but 1 with japanese citizenship. Like there is not much of a difference.

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What I wanted to say is that there is no fully japanese strong team atm in challengers so you support jadeite scarz or fennel its all the same. But somehow scarz get all the hate.

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from what i've seen, a lot of korean players are basically seen as japanese because they speak the language fluently as well as have similar enough cultures.

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But the guy commented where is pride in that. So where is pride in supporting korean players? Isn't Japan being used as a medium for Korean players to rise then? I don't see any logic in seeing korean players as japanese they are still foreign. It doesn't elevate japanese scene to have korean imports either.

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Because Korean imports are not hard carrying the team, where the leaderboard looks like two Japanese players at the bottom and the Korean imports overwhelmingly outshining them.

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IZU was carrying them through out the regular season tho. He consistently was above everyone else by a lot. I would say he outshined the japanese players. It just so happened that he didn't show up against scarz. And you can notice that majority of imports play duelists I would say that it makes a lot of impact on the score.

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Point out where have I said or implied hate towards SCARZ.

Yes. I am reluctant to support a five player Japanese team where only two player are Japanese. The reason is because if those two players were to be replaced with two imports, it wouldn't matter.

Russian players are talented. And I am not so shameless to piggyback on their talent and claim that as a win for Japan.

If a Japanese player were to be good enough to play internationally on T1 team, I will still want a team from Japan with full Japanese roster to win. After spending countless days on a mine, a single diamond in a bag of coals is not a good find.

And it's not about the number of Japanese players, but it's more about the impact they have. Allen and Toraneco is barely standing out among the others. Yes, one less import does make it better. It would be better if there were one less, leaving only one import. No import would be the dream. What is your point again? Everyone wants that. There is a reason ZETA had a huge following even disregarding the crazy fangirls, ZETA was favoured because of the all Japanese roster.

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I didn't mean that you are hating I just said in general because all the ones who leave hateful messages have the same points as you do. But I didn't say that your message in particular was hateful. Just wanted to give my five cents on this topic and I thought it would be best to reply to you because the theme was similar.

Allen and toraneco both showed what they are capable of in two series winning many important rounds and I would say that you cant just swap them for two complete bots or randoms and have the same results. They both are very important pieces in the team.

Having two korean imports is still not a win for japan. Every import that you mentioned is a key player in their team respectfully and if you switch them out it would matter and would matter a lot. You cant just swap IZU or syouta out of a roster and think that they would win. And sorry if my message came out as if it was agressive. It wasnt aimed to be like that. The main point I wanted to deliver is that scarz don't deserve the hate.

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2 jp > 3 jp