Is EMEA the USA of Football?

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valorant_player

Think about it:

On the decline
No relevant teams
Can only win in regional tournaments
Delusional fans hyping up disappointing international performances

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cxrsedval

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the thing bout it USA was never good at football, while EMEA dominated

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bro forgot women exist

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cxrsedval

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my bad bro but you should mention it

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frenchge

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if your post was about the women team then it would be irrevelant bc they're really good, don't switch up mid discussion

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Prasinos

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It's just that people like Cr7 or Messi is more relevant.

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ClownOrgsofIndia

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USA in football can't even win a regional tournament like Nations cup.

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luckypleb

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isnt USA football improving?

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isn't VIT a superteam?

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cxrsedval

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they got top 4 tho

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'If you ain't first, you're last.'

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Top 4 in 8 countries.

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GambleNats

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those "8 countries" (u mean teams right?? right?) are top 2 out of 48

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Why an Australian getting offended here?

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GambleNats

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because your take was bad, my nationality, ethnicity, race etc etc doesnt matter

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ClownOrgsofIndia

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No. They literally lost to Panama in Nations league.

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Yistyy

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To be fair, USA has never cared about soccer. Meanwhile EMEA tries to be as competitive as possible in valorant.

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cloudberry

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Nah the USA 100% cares about football nowadays (not as much as the more popular sports, but still quite a lot)

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Yistyy

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oh, well i guess i wouldn't know. idk why they are even trying, there are almost no soccer fans in the usa including myself.

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cloudberry

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For one thing, we're hosting the World Cup next year

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it’s the biggest sport on earth wtf it may be proportionally less popular in the us but there are tens if not hundreds of millions of soccer fans in america

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most us soccer fans probably watch european / other leagues anyway. and it's not about the number of fans, it's about the number of players and support; if other countries channel 90% of their athletes into soccer/football while america channels them into football, baseball, basketball, etc, this feels like "not caring" to me

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that's not true, literally no one gives a damn about soccer in the us. like neither one of any of my friends and family probably couldn't even name 3 players besides messi and ranaldo.

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cxrsedval

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does ur friends and family equal to 300 million people ?

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Yistyy

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nah I'm saying they represent the common view of most people here.

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Er3ngenes1s

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even if u cared, u would still be the same. nothing changes

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Yistyy

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what i'm saying is there is no market for it, so it wouldn't be a great return on investment.

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jaKe-y

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It's literally a dead game in EU. Nobody cares, they play the superior game there.

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If anything its Americas that is on the decline, EMEA keeps producing top talent that are replacing all the washed bots while Americas have been recycling the same players for 2 years now, same for APAC to some degree, I think EMEA is clearly the best region this year and thats without generational talents like Comeback, GSR and Sayonara... Natank wasted in Americas too...

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spitting facts, so many talents in Emea, also in VCL Dach NXTs solely purpose is to improve young talents and 3 of their players are also promising (Daxcio, Movi and Terrox), their stats may not seem insane but in the eye test u can see their potential

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they arent ready for whats coming once this new gen gets international exp and jamppi/nats/sayf and others get even more exp as igls, we already poached their goat IGL and sentinel, its a matter of time before emea dominates, just imagine comeback instead of marteen in KC and BBL with full roster, those two together with TH, TL and VIT are 5 teams that could make a run internationally with time but ofc its easier to say EMEA is on the decline because we havent won shit since Tokyo even if TH got close af twice, they only look at wins and not the underlying stuff

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Huitzilopochtli

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im gonna be honest, Emea T2 has the most promising and also the most talents in general, plus the things u listed, Emea is building its way for success and it will only get better, alone the amount of promising 16-17yo talents is insane, another players to keep an eye on are derr in Siko and Sunflower in HGE, they r both 16 and I hear a lot of praise abt them, emeas future is promising

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"EMEA is clearly the best region this year" while EMEA's best came 4th at the latest international event (and their elimination match wasn't a fun watch for EMEA fans im sure lol) behind EVERY other region's best team is crazy lol. i kind of doubted "americas has been recycling the same players for 2 years now" which i checked and that is only 4 more players true than EMEA so you get that but to say that's also kind of true for APAC? APAC has had the most changes out of anyone and proved to be the best region last event. here's the rookies from each region AFAIK (some might be wrong, just checked if they got added late 2024. also didn't account ascension winners, just +5 if you want)

AMER (9)

v1nny
Verno
xenom
cortezia
v1c
mitch
mada
zander
brawk (mid season change)

EMEA (13)

Ruxic
westside
kaajak
Serial
filu
Avez
Click
Lewn
PROFEK
xeus
flyuh (import)
Serial, Cyv0ph (mid season changes)

APAC (21)

HYUNMIN
Kr1stal
KellyS
UdoTan
Papi
patrickWHO
yoman
gyen
Akame
jingboong
Art
kushy
CLZ
XQQ
Syouta
Xdll
thyy, Killua, PatMen, Ash, Suggest (mid season changes)

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Er3ngenes1s

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u know that its the start of the season?

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saebr

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and.. what? lol

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retard

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saebr

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call me a slur instead of explaining your stance ? so ironic

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Er3ngenes1s

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u know that its the start of the season?

i just did

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idkbro

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now do last 2 seasons and dont forget to count kamyk (idc if he played a couple games as a sub in fnatic), chiwa, sociablee, robbiebk, etc... you have purposedly not mentioned many players and even then compare the quality between APAC and EMEA lmfao, suggest is a new talent btw? he has attended an international event before and was in dfm in their first year for a full season

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saebr

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i missed a lot cause i don't keep up with EMEA. i went through it quite fast. oh well -1 +4 who cares apac still has more and still better region. go through them yourself if you want exacts. nothing was missed purposely that's blasphemous

what about this now? you gonna end up last with your potty pants stained then say emea is looking like the clear best region and that other regions are decreasing in talent quality. interesting

"EMEA is clearly the best region this year" while EMEA's best came 4th at the latest international event (and their elimination match wasn't a fun watch for EMEA fans im sure lol) behind EVERY other region's best team is crazy lol.

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"i missed a lot cause i don't keep up with EMEA" so you are an APAC fanboy that got trigerred and decided to spread fake info? again do last 2 seasons and compare quality lmfao, APAC is literally carried by Korea alone btw and as I said APAC is not that bad compared to Americas, APAC will be fine thanks to Korea but Americas is the one that is worrying af

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Factos

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Er3ngenes1s

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when was USA ever good at football? yep this is the loophole in ur analogy + we are only 5 years into val esports. give it some time

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they got 4th in the first ever wc lol

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Er3ngenes1s

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4th

HOLY SHIT THATS DAMN ACHIEVEMENT GODAMN

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it’s comparable to winning champs 2021 imo

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Er3ngenes1s

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there's difference between 1st and 4th. hope that helps

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if i wasn’t clear enough i don’t think 4th in 1930 is at all impressive

i just don’t hold much weight in a champs won by bonecold and kiles either

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Er3ngenes1s

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i just dont hold much weight

well, sorry to break it to u but thats a YOU problem

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1930 💀💀💀

#36

Schneefeuer11

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Fair
US in most sports tho really

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Tomczi

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Mid bait
"is USA in the same place currently in val esport as in football?" would make 10x more sense

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mid bait? with these replies? 😂😂😂

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Won 2/3 trophies in 2023 made most grandfinals in 2024. please open ur eyes americas won 1 mickey mouse tornament now looks like china will take over in skill with how bad the region is playing. stop baiting plz