RIOT CHANGE HOSTS NOW

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cioccolat

Hey, let me preface this by saying, I dgaf Abt what anyone thinks of Trump, this isn't a political post ok?

After news of the "yellow list" which is allegedly a draft of countries the USA will ban from traveling into their land. Again, not a political post.

Riot needs to change hosts NOW, I can't even begin to rattle off the amount of headaches that this will cause for e-sports, sure, maybe Brasil has a good relationship with USA now, but I'm pretty sure LATAM doesn't, neither does most countries in EMEA.

PLEASE RIOT, avoid the visa headaches and just fucking change the host city. There is Canada, Curitiba in Brasil, hell, I'm sure there are some good cities on LATAM.

FFS we already had visa issues before, this shits gonna get wicked now

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reported for politics

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He's not wrong though

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he isnt

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threads which discuss the implications of politics on val esports aren't banned no?

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depends if the mods like it or not

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If a political decision has a direct impact on a Valorant event then it should be allowed to be discussed on a Valorant forum surely

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love that we can all agree on this <3

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One google search will show that theres nothing to do with any Americas region countries outside of some Caribbean islands which has little to no esports presence. Brazil, major LATAM countries other than Venezuela, and Canada are not affected.

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Do you even read the list?

Except Russian players this list affects NOBODY ( assuming an event will be held in US)

Media and digital literacy is on decline 😂😂

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literally, talk about an over reaction to a nothing burger as most of these countries already had visas restricted like Somalia and North Korea

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Something...

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Fair enough but op is talking about Host cities so he's mainly talking about AMERICAS, there's no masters being held in US this year anyways.

In the event that the ban does happen, Riot is smart enough to host masters in other countries so this shouldn't even be an issue

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something isnt going to intl events unless prx makes some changes, so riot has nothing to worry about

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LOL
I'd mention flor but unfortunately apeks is kinda in the same situation all over again (mostly her I was thinking of)
i did a different post on it but they could have visa issues over the fact that lgbt characters are in the game (gov't might just say fuck val over that)

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This is kind of complicated. Idk if the ban on sports trans atlethes stretches to esports (even if it does, just hold it in blue state?)
Thats not a thing. Only reason Val could get banned would be due to the fact that it stems from a Chinese company, and they have huge ass spyware in your computer called Vanguard.

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Brasil has a good relationship with USA now

This could change, Trump is controversial, and not that popular with south American government leaders + Canada. Maybe something happens, maybe someone says something and they get added to the list, if trump.enforces the list, them he becomes it's manager, any country can enter the list, and by entering the list, Valorant s eSports scene gets compromised.

The majority of countries have an awful president rep sheet, now imagine two hardheaded presidents bickering about tariffs or import restrictions.

The point is, if the list exists, VCT Americas is compromised by how Trump decides to manage the list, which is why I'm saying to change the host, so VCT Americas isn't hosted on a country that has highly restrictive visa parameters.

I don't care about the validity of x country entering such a list, all I care about is that one of my hobbies doesn't get kneecapped by international politics

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Bro, read..

They even said their reasoning for the supposed ban. Trump's relationship have little to do with this. People are talking about how he's so chummy with Putin but Russia is on the list.

As long as your vetting and screening information is sufficient, they won't ban you lol. If your country got added to the list that's more likely your government's fault (sry)

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If that is the case, I still want a new host
I mean we have a fuck ton of visa issues now. I just thought this situation would be the necessary trigger to get VCT out of LA

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the visa issues are a whole different can of worms from a travel ban, and travel bans aren't a new thing.

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FYI they can deny visas if a country isnt banned

this game is very, AS THEY WOULD PUT IT IM MAKING NO POLITICAL STATEMENTS, DEI

"DEI is going to be banned everywhere"

anyone here for valorant might just have visas denied regardless of country bans

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Even if you dont go the DEI route, or border policy route. Valorant is owned by a chinese company, and we all know how iffy the relationship between china us and russia is right now

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cough cough tiktok cough cough

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Welp that's a riot issue isn't it? I mean just roll back the "DEI". Reduce all the unnecessary stuff and make sure something like GC remains to exists.

Just because you're from Colombia doesn't mean you're company reeks of "DEI"

And as Merkfreeks puts it its a visa issue, it has little to do with travel ban

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It’d too hard to pivot atp and pretty pointless, because Riot has multiple esports that use USA arenas for their regular season, they could incorporate a change over the next couple years if they commit to doing it, but by then the Visa problems would have likely been resolved either in a good or bad way

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In the broad spectrum they should think about this political situation that can effect players and initiate a alternative plan if any thing happens in the future

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IDK about SA and LATAM, but rn the Canadian dollar is really weak, likley same with everyone else so moving venues could prob save RIOT lots of money and lower hotel costs, food, camps, etc. Plus I think LATAM deserves a LAN, a big one, its such a good scene

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completely agree with LATAM needing to host a big event, but as TheLegend27 has pointed out, its waaayyyy too late to change (this stuff is planned AT THE VERY LEAST 1 year in advance) it would take a host country starting a war for stuff to be changed at this point

also as SleepingSnorlax has brought up, for some identities the US isn't a safe place rn and it isn't getting better so i think it might be that we don't see events in the US next year

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Good point, but with an event in Canada its unlikely they are planning on going back to NA in 2026 anyways id assume

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I had a reflection in my bath today.
Let's say you put a server in Fortaleza where Sao Paulo player might have 40 ping. And you put the T1 team somewhere in caribeaan where people have 30 ping on Miami (French Guyana, Puerto Rico, Martinique) and 40 ping on Fortaleza, wouldnt be possible to scrim BR team on Fortaleza, and NA team on Miami ?

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It would be possible, I guess the main problem for riot would be infrastructure.

Idk how safe and structured are the cities in the Caribbean, but I am pretty sure it's expensive to travel there atleast.

Fortaleza itself doesn't have the necessary accomodations for the teams in my perspective.

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No, no you dont put the team on Fortaleza, you put a server on Fortaleza

Basically between Miami and Sao Paulo they are 100ms, so the solution would be

Sao Paulo --> 40ms --> Fortaleza server --> 40ms --> Martinique/Guadeloupe/FrenchGuyana/AnyCaribeanPlace (Where VCT team plays) --> 40ms Miami server--> 0/60ms --> Rest of the NA

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ooooohhhh
i guess that could work

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If you know how many ping Fortalezan people have in Sao paolo I would be really intrested

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Not being political, simply stating possibilities here.

OP is right this list could cause some issues but tbch the list prob wont effect much.

The real issue is that because of major changes in the US gov rn the general employment of the govt (non partisan, non elected officials) lean significantly to one end of the political spectrum here.

My concerns (which I would have brought up here if I didn't think I would get banned, but with this being up I feel more comfortable) are that because of the fact that parts of the game itself go against the values of previously mentioned side of the political spectrum that gov't leans toward now, we may see discrimination in players and others being given visas to do esports.

This has been an issue in the past (politics weren't involved before though) in the case of teams like moist esports, who weren't taken seriously because of their name.

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the base worry can be simplified to Trump's assertiveness, past administrations were very passive so the status quo didnt really change. Trump is assertive, he thinks something needs to be done, he does it, and border policy is something he cares about, which means border policy is volatile while under his command. which regardless of validity, IS an issue for an international league like VCT Americas

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if something happens riot COULD sue, executive orders aren't laws and the courts have already enforced that

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u just scared vlr mods, they scared of something political

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I mean tbf the amount of fearmongering here is unreal haha.

We're talking about something that most possibly amounts to nothing.