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#1
eric_5008

I don't see its immediate impact, with the current meta I feel like the last thing you need is another dive agent. Yoru, Vyse and Tejo, along with the buff to iso. I think it might just be another ranked agent.

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#2
Laundry
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W/ vyse and breach meta, if you have a yoru as well that’s 5 flashes so you sacrifice a lot of other util, I think it’s possible to see -yoru +waylay for some comps. More likely tho is prob double duelist cuz of T1

The big problem is vyse imo which is why i think there will be double duelist, cuz even tho she’s can dash back or use her signature back, I feel that the clone is generally considered less important util

#3
washedradiant
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doesnt it counter vyse

#8
eric_5008
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She does in a sense, but my line of thinking is that you lose too much with swapping out an agent. Unless you fully commit to double duelist with the yoru. Yoru is too valuable atm, raze has too much viable util, iso just got buffed. Can you one for one swap with a jett? Maybe

#4
AfterGlow22
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Her dash is supported with the sort of chamber tp she has, no?

#5
DSGFan
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She is going to be meta lmao. She has way too much in her kit.

Her dive is the best dive in the game currently. It has it's drawbacks, but all the dives have their own drawbacks, and her dive allows you to do more than Jett's updraft + dash or Raze's double satchel for executes/retakes. Or even aggressively fighting for space. Have you watched her gameplay?

She then has a piece of util which on offence is basically a no-kill required phoenix ult, and on defence is a chamber tp. The only limitation on defence is the timer, but you can just use it on contact with your team's sentinel/initiator util.

Her stun/slow is very strong and can be comboed with other util.

She is the only duelist with a site-wide ultimate, which once again can be comboed with other util.

She is busted.

#6
JesusisLord
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Dev commented on how her dash isn't that good compared to raze as it is extremely predictable being one direction and can easily be counter played during playtesting so imagine pros who objectively have some off the best mechanics, remember no smokes to hide like jett. the rest make sense, but her slow orb and ult are more of combo util than entry util as you can still get one tapped since shooting speed isn't harmed unlike concusses.

#10
DSGFan
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Have you seen some of the shit she can do? She can pop up in Ascent A main so fast it's ridiculous.

In a pro environment, how are you stopping her if she has supportive stuns and flashes being thrown for her?

Vision strikers is a very strong B main control play; she can do "vision strikers" on any part of the map, on any map.

#13
Zerphyr1
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the same argument could be made for jett brother bear, and jett can do that without much supportive util.

#14
DSGFan
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Jett can throw a smoke for herself, which is easily replaced by astra/omen(or any other dome controller really) support smoke.

Jett CANNOT take A main ascent the way Waylay can. Waylay will be able to go from A short to Top Mid in less than 5/6 seconds. No other duelist can do that.

#16
Zerphyr1
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I mean neon and raze can take top mid from A short and jett can also do it in the same amount of time.

No idea where ur getting this idea that waylay is faster

#7
DSGFan
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she enables so much by being so broken. You can do double dive with her for unstoppable site execs. You use her as solo duelist and do double initiator, double sentinel, or even double controller.

She makes Phoenix, Chamber, and Jett almost entirely pointless. The only thing she doesn't have is flashes, but she doesn't need any because she is worth building a comp around.

#11
eric_5008
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Watching gameplay, I change my mind alittle, however, I'm still not a fan of the dive ability bc its very committal and you either single dash or double dash. The tp and dive is very niche imo, its all about timing. I can already see someone accidentally double dashing and not pulling out their gun in time LOL.

But the strongest ability is for sure the slow, if this agent gets played, I think its mainly for that

Its definitely a fun agent with fast strats but I think it loses so much value in the mid-round, no?

#9
SleepingSnorlax
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We might having Astra meta for Waylay i would say since she doesn’t have a smoke like Jett instead Astra fake smokes can help in entering site

#12
Devanshhhhhh
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I think she might be one of the best dive duelist tho its just she wont be picked much cuz people are more used to raze or jett it will take some time

Also im not sure about the op on Waylay

#15
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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My 9 cost ult that barely hits people in the first place can now survive a free E ability on a 40 second cooldown, this game is saved

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